Dec 08 Ladies - We're fat, we're thin, we're nearly 3 years in!!

[DeidreBarlow]

Sorry for the shocking title - couldn't think of anything else and our babies little people will be 3 in the next few months!

I obviously mean geographic, not gepgraphic

Hello everyone,

Someone have a girl and call her Elspeth Echo then I can high five effie . Our names used, AT LAST!

Hello trace nice to hear from you. Sounds like a good plan to me re the meds. Did I tell you a met a L and P sister combo the other week? You and that mum would probably get on like a house on fire!

beans Fantastic news on the job. Well done you! Sorry to hear your sister is aggrivating things. I agree with whoever suggested your mum or other sis have a word. Obviously it is awful for her to be stuck in a horrid marriage but unless she is going to leave him then upsetting your dad can't help anyone.

ladyT Hope you are dosed up with olbas oil and are taking it easy. Approach the MIL visit as a chance to have a rest and recuperate. I find mental swearing and nodding an excellent approach. Then I moan and/or laugh about it with DH. She told me recently that it was good that I'd lost weight after having the DD's as my bust was no longer so outsize??!! I was a 12/14 and am now 10/12. Baffling! I wanted to tell her that I think it was my outsize bust that attracted her son to me in the first place . That would have shut her up! .

JJ Blimey, held up with blu tack. Baffling! Our old neighbour tried to build herself an extension by putting a roof between ours and her other neighbours extensions. She and her weird family could not understand that they were our walls build entirely on our land so of course she can't just stick a roof on without planning permission! Have you a lovely new bathroom planned?

mom Lovely to see you. Hope you feel better soon.

We are off for dinner (or tea as my northern roots dictate I should call it!) at a friends this weekend and a fellow guest is the local vicar. I am going to have to be on my best behaviour. My in laws belong to his parish!

at your outsize bust Jolly! That has made me laugh out loud, especially using it snare your DH. Although I have to say that I didn?t notice it myself

LadyT do look after yourself, you are both physically and emotionally wiped out at the moment. Do you have to clear the flat, or can it wait? Persuade MIL to take the girls out for the day and catch up on some R&R. It was lovely to read about your DH being on TV the other night. Do I remember rightly that last year you registered DD2 on the anniversary of DH?s funeral, or have I made that up completely? If so, such a significant day for you in so many different ways

So lovely to hear from you Trace, especially that you?re feeling good right now. How is P sleeping? Do you think DH?s theory on sleep and happiness is being proved right? What a trauma about the raisin , hopefully she has learnt her lesson

Congratulations on the job Beans . I also agree with the suggestion of you/your Mum/your other sister having a quiet word. I wonder if your sister is suddenly seeing her last opportunity for your Dad?s support? But still, if someone pointed out that now is the time to make memories, and surely she?d want some fun and happy times to look back on for her and her children, she might realise what she is doing

CRASH. Ooops, DD has just fallen out of bed, onto a stack of books. Good job she?s not onto hardbacks yet!

What an arse about the shower Jump, has the cowboy builder done anything else on the house, or are you confident that this is it? Hurrah for reward charts and sleep!

Hello to NJAN and to Mom, lovely to hear from you both, and get well soon Mom

I loved Elspeth, but DH vetoed it first time round. Typically, he now really likes it, but I think it?s too similar to Eloise to use it now. Same with Alice. So someone will have to use Elspeth Echo instead, sorry Jolly and Effie

Wimpy parties! .

Do not mention VAT/end of year. ?Tis a nightmare here too

I have a dilemma, almost AIBU, but of course I?m far too scared to consider opening it up to the MN jury, and you ladies will help me much more kindly. I?ve just accepted a party invitation for DD, to a little boy we did post natal stuff things, although we see very little of him now (my working days and his Mum?s working days or completely opposite). And then the very next day, we get a christening invitation from one of DH?s oldest friends for exactly the same time. Normally my rule is ?first come, first served? (hark at me, I sound like I?m forever double booking myself ? I wish I had that many friends!) but loyalties are pulling me to the christening. Would I be very unreasonable to make my excuses to the party? And how do I get out of it?

Definitely the christening is more important, birthday parties are every year a christening only happens once. Either lie and say you had forgotten they were on the same day when you accepted or tell the truth but give the boy a birthday present.

Lady you have all my love and thoughts as always. Though I think hat you need more is a good nap. I have been looking after a friends son as my friend is quite ill with a cold. It's nice to help out and I wish I could do the same for you, and also Mom.

Beans Hooray for the job, there is obviously nothing wrong with being happy with how well things are going for you and DH, but I don't think you can hide your sadness & disappointment at your dads illness. It's not selfish to be happy at this time, with you house & the job, but you have to accept the happiness and the sadness. As far as your sister goes, I know its not really good to be worrying your dad with these things but do you think he would notice if she didn't talk about it. He knows things are hard for her and probably wants to continue in his supportive role. Maybe if she didnt say anything he would be annoyed that she purposefully kept him away from her problems because of his illness. Maybe he doesn't want to be treated differently.

Jolly, what on earth does she mean by outsized boobs? How very rude.

I went out to march 'the help' at a special ladies night premier at the lovely old theater in town. It's a great night usually as they have a drink reception, yummy things to nibble as well as popcorn, and a goodie bag. Unfortunately tonight something happened with the movie and it was going to be late starting. It's a long movie over 2 hours, so if we waited it would be quite late to get home. So we all gave up (the group I was with not the entire audience) and got a refund, but we got all the freebie food & drink and a goodie bag, result! Will probably just watch the movie on download now.

March!?! Sorry should have been watch. Also I think there was a hat in there that should have been a what.

Oh and sorry for more sad news but just wanted a little white light & prayers for DS1's little friend, the one whose dad died a couple of weeks ago. DS1 was due to have a playdate at his house today but his grandmother died last night. His poor mother, in the last two weeks she has lost her husband and her mother. Her poor little DS has been so sad since he lost his daddy and is eating very little, now he has lost his Oma. I have really been shown how lucky I am these past two weeks, but also how blessed I am that if something horrid did happen I would have a special place on the internet to turn to for support.

Oh Vag that is heartbreaking, the poor little lad . Sending much white light his way.

Oh Vag - so very very sad. His poor Mum too. Weep.

Have to rush to library as there is a batty lady there who reads to the children and it's lovely! xx

Oh Vag how awful. Lots of white light from here.

How heartbreaking for that little lad and his Mum Vaj, give him an extra cuddle from me next time he comes to play . I hope his Mum has plenty of support?

On the christening, I'll tell the truth, and I've already got a birthday pres so will make sure he gets that. The crazy thing is the birthday invites came out before the baby was even born and he'll only be 6 weeks old at the christening, so we didn't expect it so soon. I am massively in awe of his Mum for organising it - I couldn't even organise putting my socks on when E was 6 weeks old!

Hello ladies, I know I've been light on posting of late and I hate to burden teh basket more but please can I have your prayers/white light anything you've got for my Nan.

She is on holiday in Lanzarote with my parents and has suffered a massive stroke. She has no insurance (no one would due to all her illness problems), they cannot fly home on Monday and its all a huge nightmare for my Nan and my parents.

Sorry for no personals, much love to you all esp Ladyt, Beans & Trace good to hear you sounding more positive

Oh deids I will definitely pray for your nan. How frightening for her - and your parents - to be abroad and unwell. How is your nan? Do you know how bad it is yet? I don't think I'm speaking out of turn when I say please do post - it seems from experience that this basket can hold as many burdens as it needs to. And it seems the more burdens it holds, the stronger it becomes.
ZJ I agree that the christening is more important. I also agree that I hadn't noticed Jolly's ample bosom either
Vag that is very sad about ds's friend. I'm sure your friendship is very precious to them right now.
P didn't shove anything up her nose today. Phew.

Hello all,
Just a quick one from me to say sorry for long absence. I have a rule no mumsnet from my work computer and I hardly ever get my home laptop out now, also lost my iphone (wahhhhh), got a new one now so hopefully be able to keep up a bit more. For the first time in 3+ years i have fallen off Dec 08 threads I am on!
I have been keeping up at bit, would like to send lots of love to ladyt, what a terrible time you are having. I really hope at least you can feel better and get some sleep soon. And much love for next Friday, I will be thinking of you. I also hope MIL can help out a bit rather than grating too much.
Also much love to you beans such awful news about your dad.
I cannot remember what else I had to say but I hope to keep up a bit more from now on.

What news from me - work and life generally keeping me far too busy, DH away with work a lot so generally quite knackering and not much time for much except child wrangling and work. Boo.
DD starting to talk. Uber uber cute. Though can say "Gruffalo" (Guff-lo) but not "Mummy". I am "Daddy", as is Daddy and DS (though I think DS is more Deddie).
MIL is still planning to move locally. Yikes. Her house is on the market.

dieds how awful about your nan. Much love to you all.

Sorry there is so much sad news on here at the moment. But I miss you all and will try and get on more often.

So very sorry to hear about your nan, Deids. Any word on how she is doing?

Sending love to all XXXX

Dieds how is your nan?

Vag also such sad news for your friend.

Sl lovely to hear from you.

Thanks ladies.

She is stable. Spoke with mum last night and she can't move, and speech is very slurry. A consultant is meeting them today to discuss fully how she is and how long she needs to be there before they can think about flying home.

I also need to say a huge thanks to Rubes & her DH who gave me some brilliant advice last night on how to go about getting her home without the insurance cover. Mum is ringing the Embassy/consulate once she has spoken with the Consultant and knows more. And I am on with checking out Medical repatriation.

vag Forgot to say such sad news about DS1's friend. So much for them to all go through

Oh Deids - you poor love. And your poor Nan and parents. I am thinking of them. Please let us know how things are.

November 2011 is not a good month, is it?

SL - lovely to see you back! We've missed you.

I had 2 of my NCT friends round yesterday afternoon with their 2 children each, so 6 nippers. They all stayed for tea and bath. And, do you know what?, I loved it! What fun it was! Am still exhausted though. DD1 slept through last night, but DD2 started screaming on and off from 4.30. Yuck.

I have decided to start lifting DD1 before we go to bed because the two nights previously when she woke up needing a wee, she then wouldn't go back to sleep, so I lifted her last night and she slept through again.

More than welcome Deids I'm glad you messaged since FB comes on the phone & I hadn't been on here to know. I hope things pick up fast
Beans I'm glad you sound in better spirits, good plan re your sister.
Lady hope you are managing ok. Things have become incredibly busy in literally the past few days but would still be able to make a time to meet up.
Long story with the move but had been going back and forth on whether to stay or move (pending the outcome of the structural guy checking things out here) then a house we really liked, we missed out on so decided we'd stay here unless the news was bad (due to moving hassle and cost) then the suveyor came and reckons it is that - needs to measure the cracks for 12 months every 8 weeks, not sure about draught probs, etc etc and on it goes. Same day that house we liked came back on, we looked at it quick smart and got it on a move in of about 5-6 weeks (ie right before Christmas - gulp) meanwhile, there was a mix up at the Estate agent and turns out he owner dropped the rent to get a tenant in quick smart. 2 weeks is the latest they can stretch it, so here we are, moving in less than two weeks and have a million things to sort!
Have found a great nursery (despite mil kissing arse) but so silly I know - am feeling guilty taking ds out of his current one! DH keeps reminding me it's just a business deal - right? All the staff just love him and he has a best friend there, but I know it won't work....

Deids How awful. Your poor nan. Hope you manage to sort out repatriation swiftly. Much love and white light.

Hello Summer, lovely to hear from you. Love that Gruffalo comes before mummy!

Rubes You can explain to nursery that it is nothing personal and you need to go with what works with your new house. Very exciting to be somewhere new for Christmas.

Deids I am thinking of you, and your Nan. How horrible, to happen so far from home. Whenever you talk of her and everything she's been through, I always get the impression that she is an amazingly strong lady - so I hope her strength sees you all through this xx

Lovely to have you back Summer. I saw your fb photo of your littles, all wrapped up cost and warm in the trailer, and I was struck how grown up DD is all of a sudden. It was a gorgeous picture

Blimey Rubes, you've got a busy couple of weeks ahead of you, I hope they all run smoothly. I'm with you on being attached to nursery, I'm keeping DD in one day a week next year even though I'll be on mat leave because 'it'll be good for her to socialise and learn', although I'm sure the village pre school will give her that, and she's going there too!

DH is away with his friends this weekend, following my weekend away last month. So I've made myself a yummy steak tea and have full control of the telly - what a treat!

Deids what a nightmare, is she stable, did she get some medical attention straight away. And your mum is she ok, what a terrible thing to happen. Thinking of you all, the basket can handle anything so come to us when you need to unload.

Was Lady's dad's funeral today or was it next Friday.

Rubes I understand, I'm sure DH is just trying to make you feel better about it, but it does feel like these people become a part of your kids life. Saying that, I'm sure the next nursery will love your DS just a much, it's the place changing not your DS. DS1 has been in three different educational institutions and all three have seen in him what we do and have taken to him, as I think all childcare staff & teachers do (generally) with all kids.

Hi.summer!

I think Lady's Dads funeral is next week. Horrid to have to wait that long.

Vag, she is stable although her BP is still sky high, so risk of another stroke likely. She is conscious and although confused & agitated seems to have some grasp of what is happening. My parents are staying another week. Dr said no way she can fly, not out of the woods yet. She has been through so much it seems so cruel. To make everything seem worse its a year ago today my Grandad died. I think I would like her to just go and be with him now

Oh Deids. Lots of love to you and white light for your nan. If she is ready then she'll go.

Deids, I agree with Jolly, she will join your Granddad if she's ready. If not, then she still had something to offer to the world and we had better be ready for it xx

Dieds So sorry to hear about your Nan. Sending you loads of love.

Vag Thats so sad about DS1's friend. Poor little boy.

I have been bleeding today so I've got a private scan booked tomorrow. I don't know what I am doing really. I want to think that its nothing and just a bit of bleeding. But I don't want to get my hopes up. I just want DP to come home but thats about 2 weeks away.

So if anyone has a little white light left then please can I have it?