July 2010: Warning, this thread contains offensive language; 1 wedding, --d--jogging and some Creme Eggs (although we don't know why). Oh and some babies who are nearly 1 year old.

[CakeandRoses]

See? Panicking works!

I was out drinking and having a lie in . I had drinks with 10 mates, home by 11.30 but still v good.

We are having a lazy Sunday, having some friends round for Sunday dinner later, dh is cooking.

mlic haven't your stretch marks faded now though? I had quite a lot with A but they are faded, not that I would wear a bikini due to my huge belly. I only got 2 more little ones with G, they faded too.

Have a lovely time cake (even though you're well on your way by now), don't miss us too much
Hope your weekend stays lovely tsc.
Was it birthday drinks wss? 11.30 is late by my standards, I doubt I'd even be awake, especially if I'd been drinking [lightweight emoticon]

DH is getting a lie-in today and that's probably it. I might make cake's chocolate chip banana cake thing but I've not bought him anything.
S was awake at 0450 this morning but I ignored him and dozed til his fussing finally got me up, not a happy bunny but he did sleep from 6.30pm yesterday so I shouldn't complain too much.

What toys do your babies like at the moment? Or what do they enjoy doing?
I'm needing a few ideas for S cos I think he's a bit tired of the usual stuff we've got sitting around!

Did cake put her banana bread recipe on here?

Found it!
mlic hopefully it is just the alcohol, maybe a good throw up will sort you out. That's crap though, fingers crossed your body gets it all out of its system before long so you can pack.

Morning all,

have a good trip cake

Fingers crossed it's the booze mlic. I always panic before we go away, thinking M will be ill.

Nice one on the drinks WSS. Sounds like you had a lovely birthday weekend.

And it sounds like our Mrs DH had a smashing wedding too.

tsc You are too good to him. Sounds a lovely present. Glad you had a nice weekend.

chulita Have you made any decisions about the clouds yet? Sorry, I really have no suggestions, but I liked the folded paper ones on cake's link.

M doesn't really play much on her own, but she does like the following "toys": Plastic bottles that she can squash, plastic bottles with plastic beads in that she can rattle, big wooden puzzles in the shape of animals that I put in and she can take out then chew them, a xylophone, banging on guitars, banging with wooden spoons on wooden floors, pressing buttons. We have a place here where we can rent toys for free for 14 days which is ideal. She gets bored very quickly with stuff and I hate having too much clutter in the house. I think they have something like that in the UK, toy libraries or so. Might be worth investigating chul?

I'm never gonna mention anything good on here again, it always goes pear shaped after. Since I've told you that I don't have any belly aches even with carrying M so much, I have had an unsettling pulling in my stomach. It makes me worry a bit, but I do hope it's the ligaments and nothing to do with the baby.

We had a lovely day yesterday cos we pandered to M's wishes all day. I sat with her on the floor or DP carried her and she was happy and calm. So I really am in two minds. Should we try and teach her to play on her own and I get on with housework, or should we just hope that this is a phase and just go with it and potentially have all hell break lose once the new baby is there and I can't sit on the floor with her all the time? DP says there is no point us "teaching" if it ends up with both me and M in tears and hating every day and I do agree. But what if it won't get better and then her and me will be in tears once I have a newborn to deal with as well. I don't expect anybody to answer this btw. I know it's impossible to predict the outcome so we'll just have to somehow handle it.

Hope you'll all have a lovely Sunday.

cake and mylife hope u both have a fab holiday! where was Cake going again?
chu i feel the same about D's toys, he likes this 'push the wooden ball down the hole and it comes out another hole' thing the best i think, he really likes his books, Duplo keeps him going for ages and i noticed yesterday he was trying to push them together which i thought was cleaver. But mostly he likes random bits and bobs eg. ducks, sandpit toys(without the sand!) and random little figures, things that he can put in and out of things..........and the cats (food!)!! they have some nice lift the flap touchy books in morrisons 2 for £4 that he likes. I must admit i am very lucky with him, he plays very well on his own for a really long time.
We went out last night!! only the second time we have had a sitter here (we have left him at mom and dads when in brum a few times) We had to leave him awake and rolling around the cot because we had a table booked, hes usually sparko by like 7.30 and this was 8pm!! He went to sleep pretty soon and with no fuss apparently so that was good. Nice to have some time just me and DH though. I have 2 cards for him, one from me and one from the childminder that D 'made' i have brought him a new alarm clock, boring i know but he needs one! and im gona do him a nice breakfast. We have a 1st party to go to for BBQ (free) lunch today, then he wants to work on the car to get it ready for sale....... it will be sad to see it go but i can get a door made from the garage to te house now and shift the white goods out of the conservatory, which im really pleased about. Im rambling now sorry.
Whats everyone else doing today?

Enjoy your holidays cake and mlic. Hope you feel better soon too mlic.

Yes it was birthday drinks chulita. 11.30 is very late for me too . I got to sleep at midnight, G woke at 4.45. I go up with her for 15 mins then dh got up with her and I went back to bed - but I couldn't get back to sleep so I have had just over 4 and a half hours sleep. Remarkably I feel great - I had a couple of lie downs when G slept in the day but no more sleep. It must be the positive effect of a good night out . I think it will be an early night tonight though (it's 7pm here).

How are all the pregnant ones going? Needle, any more symptoms? Trudyla I carried kids a lot when I was pg with A as I was working in a childcare centre with 20 under-2's. It's not ideal but be as careful as you can, bending at the knees etc. I didn't really have any probs from the lifting but it was my first pg, you may find having a second pg relatively soon after the first it is a bit harder on your body (the lifting. And everything else really!)

We had a toy library in Dorset and I really miss it, there isn't one here but in bovi I used to borrow all sorts of things. They had a really cheap craft shop there too. I've done the paper clouds til I can think of a different way of doing them, I just want them on the wall, I can always change them later!

I'm with mlic, do what you need to do to survive and enjoy her as much as possible. fwiw I pandered to L by letting the house go to wrack and ruin and spending the time she needed playing/singing/going for walks. She was happier, I was happier and she did grow out of it :)

wss not this early surely?

No not quite this early, I will probably make it to 8.30pm or even 9!

sorry trudy xposted, I do kinda agree with mylife and chu they have the experience but may be u could try just pulling away slightly when ur playing with her, or engage her in something and be there but do something else like post on here or read the paper or something??? so ur there but not playing? does that make sense? I dont know, its really hard. If i let the house go id be just as unhappy, sad i know but true!

viksam DH wishes I cared more about the house! I always say I make a better mum than a housewife.
That banana chocolate cake is divine, DH hates banana bread and he's just demolished a huge slice - cheers cake!

Yeah, I'll just go with the flow and see how it goes. I can't read or MN with her though, cos she would be there ripping the book apart or trying to type on the computer. I tried to make a meal plan earlier with her on the floor and she ripped a page in my Jamie 30 min meals book. Arrrgh.

My long talk/appointment/assessment with M's doctor is on Tuesday, so hopefully that might help a bit. Not sure what to expect though.

I'm with you viksam on being very worried about the flat looking a mess. It makes me nervous when it does. We have decided to get a cleaner to come once a week, so that will help.

wss I made the impossible quiche on Friday and it worked and was delicious and everybody liked it. It's gonna feature in my future meal plans a lot I think. Thanks again!
I think I will check with my doctor again why she said I shouldn't carry stuff. If it's just about my back, I can live with that. If it endangers the baby, I will have to rethink.

mlic
How is the upset tummy? Did you do any packing yet?

chulita Shame about the toy library. I think it's a great thing. I will post everytime M likes some self made toys and maybe S will like it too. Do you have cats? M adores our cat's food ball. www.amazon.co.uk/Petsafe-TOY00003-Slimcat-Orange/dp/B0018CE8LQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1308478069&sr=8-2 We put in stuff, then close it so it won't fall out and she happily crawls off behind it even though she normally hates crawling. Our poor cat always thinks that she should be chasing it too but is too worried to get close to M.

Next Thursday is my big 3D scan where we're gonna find out whether it's a boy or a girl and whether all is OK. Can't help being nervous about scans. I should just enjoy them but I always worry that something might be wrong. Not sure what to do with M either. No children are allowed during the scan (in case they have to give bad news). So I thought she would stay with DP and I'd go on my own. But he really wants to come. Friends have offered to come with us and take M while we're in but she doesn't stay with anyone other that DP or me. Even though she knows them, she freaks when I leave the room. So that's added apprehensiveness. Then on Friday is my first hypnotherapie session. God, I wish, next week was over

Not much planned for today. How about you lot?

Hard one about the scan Trudy. If your friends are happy to cope, I would be inclined to let them have her and let her freak out for a couple of minutes - your DP can always just come in for a bit to see the scan. Obviously this might not work if it'll mean she's upset for the rest of the day or whatever.

J has conjunctivitis, I think as a symptom of his cold. I suppose it means we'll have to miss his swimming lesson tomorrow yet again, boo. I don't know whether to take him to the GP - I don't think there's much they can do. I know breastmilk is supposed to be good for it, but when I have tried taking him off when I feel a let down he protests and gets himself back on before I can squirt him in the eye! I can't be bothered to fish the pump out again and am not sure I'd be able to express any more anyway, but maybe I should try.

We have been busy babyproofing, we've just put up a new stairgate and moved the other one to the kitchen doorway, and we've also been boarding up the balustrades (they are horizontal so all sorts of possibilities to get stuck under the bottom one or climb them). I have also been to church, doing the laundry and we might possibly go for a walk later.

mlic how annoying about the bank card!!! Have a great time at CP.
chulita L's fave toys are his books he has so many, he has an ELC drun that has different options that when you pat it with your hand it makes bang noises or weeee and things like that and the drum 'skin' lights up, also for crawlers you put it on its side and roll it and it plays a tune as it roll, he loves it, aslo stacking rings and theose twisty wire thing that you push beads around like you get at doctors are a hit here! and little people.

We have been to a steam rally with in laws (fil loves that crap) I hate that stuff but I put on a smiley face eventhough I went out and only got 1.5 hours sleep last night!!!
Just as I went to go out L was so screamy which is unusual, it was his teeth, he touched his own cheek and writhed around in pain, he screamed holing his breath for so long he went bluey around mouth!!! we were almost shaking him in a panic and both blowing on his face, so so scary, think I want to address it at the doctors, when he gasped for air after a long time he went really beetroot red and was gasping for air for ages, I got him in his pj's 1/2 an ounce of milk and calpol and he was asleep.

DH has gone out on his bike, I dont need to cook as we had a huge picnic. So im vegging out, L is having a nap, I should wake him but I dont have the heart too!

Sorry MLIC, only just come back. Will post more later, but just quickly the recipe. Hope it's not too late:

www.kidspot.co.nz/recipes-for+2425+7+Dinner+Impossible-quiche.htm

I hear you people about leaving her with my friends. Last time with M this particular scan was really long cos they check for all sorts of things and they measure every little limb of the baby so it takes around an hour. But you're right, we can always try and if she's too upset DP can leave and go.

Awful day here, but not M's fault. Just rude selfish people. And also, too tight trousers. Do you get that too, that this can put you in such a bad mood? Feel much better now in my big fat girl other trousers.

Gosh memphis that sounds so scary about L holding his breath. I would mention it to the doctor as well.

woodlands We'll have to babyproof the flat. It just seems such a big task that we keep putting it off. Well done for doing it you.

Are you excited about your holiday MLIC? How long are you going for again?

trudyla it was scary, we have a friend whos toddler has tantrums and holds her breath til she passes out but it wasnt a tantrum he was obviously in pain, on subject of leaving M, could you go for a walk with friend around hospital grounds then you drop away then dp drops away hopefully it may be a while before realising you have gone? L doesnt notive we have gone when outdoors he has too much to see??