July 2010: Warning, this thread contains offensive language; 1 wedding, --d--jogging and some Creme Eggs (although we don't know why). Oh and some babies who are nearly 1 year old.

[CakeandRoses]

See? Panicking works!

Good idea memph. I think we might try this, especially if we take the forward facing buggy, she might be happy singing for herself and watching the world go by rather than look for us.

Poor little L. Is he better today?

trudy OMG i had to lol re too tight trousers!! how funny, i get that problem hence im in my mat trousers for work and my mat jeans for comfort and my fat girl traki bottoms at home. The reliefe of taking them and my bra off at the end of the day is ace.
Re ur dilema, whats more important, the last chance to see ur baby and see that all is well and share the experience with ur DH or dealing with M unhappy for a few hours, im not usually one to sound harsh but i really dont think u should compromise this opportunity. Do u have to pay for the 3D scan or is it part of it?
stac i forgot u asked when i get the tests done, i had bloods taken and the nucal fold measurement taken and they send it all off and come up with ur risk level based on ur BMI ur age and the nucal fold, cant remember what the bloods were for now? hopefully i should recieve a letten within a week or if its bad news i will get a phone call in a few days...........heres hoping for a letter!!! and hopefully before friday, before we go see the family to share the news.

Oh yeah, i forgot to say, my due date is the 24th Dec!!! trudy whats ur due date? needles how u doing?

Ohhhh mylife that sucks that ur sick of him, he sounds so lovely yet such a handfull, hope hes more settled for ur holiday.

mlic and cakes hope you enjoy your holidays.

dh I'm glad that everything went well on the day for you

Viksam Lovely news about your scan. D was due the 17th of December and was born on Christmas day. Christmas babies are great

Well that's the end of breastfeeding for me I was hoping to feed for two years or at least get to her first birthday but it just isn't going to happen .

How exciting viks. A Christmas baby! I'm sure all will be fine with the tests.

I'm due 30th October, so might get a Halloween baby

The fancy scan is included here as well as several more "normal" scans, so he would have the chance later on at my normal doctor who doesn't mind if we take M. But I think we are gonna give it a try and see how it goes.

dylthan I'm sorry about the end of bf for you. Have you checked out Kellymom's tips? www.kellymom.com/bf/concerns/baby/back-to-breast.html
Sorry, if this has already been suggested.

MLIC I hope you'll have a wonderful time away. Sorry today was shit. I so know how you feel. But I'm sure on holiday everything is gonna seem be much better. Fingers crossed. Have fun!

I know how it feels Dylthan, as same thing happened to us a few weeks ago - as I said at the time, it was pretty emotional, I was really gutted for a few days.

I believe there's a few hormonal changes when you stop bfing so that makes for some strange emotions too. Dh really didn't get why I was upset - he just thought - great, you fed for 10 months, what's the fuss - and I know 10 months is great but I just felt rejected at first. The fact that she wouldn't take formula and would only drink tiny sips of cow's milk too didn't help.

I did feel quite shitty about it all for a couple of weeks and it also took a couple of weeks of sore, engorged boobs before things went back to normal ( I went through lots of cabbage leaves!).

I do feel fine about it now, it's nice to know I can go out as long as I want and dh can get up with her etc and she won't be needing me for a feed. It really is emotional stopping so suddenly and I felt really tearful at times but you will feel better in a bit!

It's the shortest day here tomorrow so I'm optimistically thinking about how it will start to get lighter soon...it will take a while though but it's nice to be past the darkest day.
No plans for today except playgroup, we had a nice Sunday dinner with friends round yesterday.

Has anyone got any nice veggie lentil dish recipes? (I know, I know, I should have asked cake, but it's too late now)

I'm making a meal plan for next week and am trying to include some nutritious veggie dishes, but all my cook books don't have (m)any ideas.

You can make a lentil bolognaise, same as you would with beef mince but put lentils in instead of meat, or that lentil pie that cake suggested, we tried that and really liked it.

trudla sorry no advice for lentil recipes I'm afraid. Thank you for the link. :)

wss you've described exactly how I feel. I had a really bad back when I was pregnant and the physio has told me that I won't get better until the hormones settle which would be 6 months after finishing bfeeding. So both the physio and dh have wanted me to stop for a while dh is in fact over the moon that's she's stopped and can't understand why I wouldn't be. I think I would of just liked to make the choice or at least of had some inkling that it was about to happen.

tsc sorry to hear you're still having such a tough time if it. Is F still feeding like a newborn? Bet you're wishing I would stop complaining :)
B will take a bottle which makes things easier however its giving her a bottle that I blame for this situation. When I went back to work she had a bottle when I wasn't there and now because she's such a greedy little monkey she finds it easier and quicker to get her milk out of a bittle. Bloody stupid work!

tsc you could make him stop but it would involve crying most likely since he's so tit-fixated. I convinced S to drop his nightfeeds and since then his day feeds have cut down too. I've missed several feeds and he's not bothered. I think a lot of constant feeding/night wakings are linked to eating at night but breaking the habit is very hard with some babies and if you're soft not into hearing your baby cry you just can't do it imo.

I agree re playing independently, they're just so small still. S potters around on his own for ages which is lovely (and so, so different to L!) but I don't expect him to.

I harvested the first blueberries yesterday, 'tis a good start to the week

morning all.

sorry you're feeling sad about the end of BFing Dylthan - I know I would be sad too. It does just seem that babies wean themselves off anywhere between about 8 months and 5 years! Like you, I'm half planning to do it till 2 but want to get to 1 anyway, and then will see how he does. J isn't that much of a boob monster so I wouldn't be surprised if we stop by around 15 months or so.

Phoned the GP about J's conjunctivitis and have got an appointment tomorrow morning, or I could take him to the emergency drop in this morning but it really isn't that bad and I can't face the wait. I'm planning to take him to the HV clinic this morning (checking before i go in that they don't mind him coming in with something infectious) and see what they say - if I can get away without taking him to the GP I will. I think it's probably viral so no point in getting antibiotics anyway.

Thanks for the lentil suggestions. I finally found cake's pie recipe (it was two threads back, we do chat a lot ) and it's in the meal plan now. Will try the bolognaise next week. I have to say I really enjoy being so organised and didn't have any major disasters yet (my curry last night was way too spicey to use for M today, but I just made her something else). I found a change in attitude helped me, rather than seeing it as a chore and something I will fuck up, I just try and see it as a hobby. I put M to bed, pour myself a glass of alcohol free wine and start cooking. So far, so good.

Good idea about the treasure basket tsc. M loves pulling stuff out of baskets, especially make up and hair things.

I find it very reassuring that you don't think they should play on their own so much. I just get very insecure when people tell me I'm creating a rod for my own back if I sit and play with her so much, and when I read that at ten months babies should play at least for 45 independently. Last weekend was an eye opener though. She was so calm and happy with me not trying to get stuff done but just sitting and singing and playing. And at the end of the day, I was so happy cos we didn't have that many screaming fits. So I think I agree, I'll see how I do with doing less housework and trying not to stress about it.

I'm sorry you're having such a hard time bf F. I have no suggestions really, cos I wouldn't be able to let them cry either. It freaks me out. When I stopped bf M at 9 months she was happy about the bottle and didn't seem to miss it at all. I have noticed though that lately she tried to latch on again (through clothes) even though at first she didn't. Anyway, I hope it will improve soon for you.

Have to go shopping for maternity trousers today I hate shopping for jeans at the best of times, nevermind fatty fatso ones. And with M there it should be interesting. Trousers are really the only thing that I don't order online, cos I am such a stupid weird shape, I really have to try them on.

What are you lot up to?

Good luck with the appointment woodlands. Hope he'll feel better soon.

Trudyla I've said it before, I'll say it again, ignore the book! All babies are different.

Oh for goodness sake. I put him down for a nap at 8.55am and he is still burbling away to himself. I have to go out to the HV clinic before too long, I don't have time for him to now go to sleep for an hour. grr.

Morning all

cakes, mlic and dh have a fantastic holiday. It sure will be quiet without you all.

trudy R has been in a front facing buggy since she needed to go into the buggy. She loves it as she is so nosey. I also think its a good idea to leave M with your friends for your scan, if she's kept occupied she probably won't notice? Meant to ask are you having lo here or where you are?

tsc your boobs must be aching, poor frankles.

dythlan I know it doesn't feel it just now but maybe its a good thing B stopped feeding especially with your bad back.

viksam I'll keep my fingers crossed for a letter, sure all will be fine.

memphis that would be my idea of a crap day too. How was L last night?

chulita did you get the house stuff sorted?

albrecht how have you been?

wss I hate the dark days here and I'm always glad when the shortest day is over with.

woods how's j's eye?

I know, I know WSS I am ignoring it now. Don't shout

Well, tsc bite him in the nipple and let him judge. Outfuckingrageous this comment. M only bit me once and I was in tears and scared of it ever since. Hope today improves.

woodlands Did he go down? I swear, they know when we have to go out.

trudyla I used to play with L a lot but now he is independant since he started walking and its like its not cool to play with me, the only thing he will do with me is chasing me around the house, he plays well on his own, its not a problem that you play a lot, and people that think it is are twunts!

tsc Im not surprised you said Ow, L only has 2 teeth and has a mean lock jaw!! My mates baby girl bruised her face last week by biting it, do I bet it was bloody painful on your tit!

stac I kept a smile on my face all day, we had picnic and we agreed that we would leave then as we had walked around the whole thing, but then we ended up walking around the whole thing again!!! I still smiled!! I put back the plans I had for our fathers day for that day and then as I still said when we left, mmmm not my thing dh flipped and we had a row!!! And to top it off he was supposed to have next Friday off as he goes Ireland Sunday, he dropped it on me he cant have the Friday off and he has to work Saturday, so I had to walk around that shit and that was our last family day together until he is back grrr!!!

I have a WWYD question, DH going away and his dad is going on a caravan hol same day, he has a cat (I despise cats) he goes away for 6 weeks of the year and we let cat out and back in and feed it, I always end up doing the morning and dh bring it in at 7 at night, FIL is expecting me to look after cat as dh is away and sil hates cats and said thats the reason she doesnt have pets, I totally understand, but she has to pass his house when doing school run so its easier for her but they wont ask her as she has said a flat no. ive said im not doing it, ive done it for years and now with L its difficult, fil refuses to look after our dog as he doesnt like dogs so aibu reasonable refuse to stick to my guns on this? dh is fine about it, but I know I will probably crack with guilt! He is so tight he wouldnt have it in a cattery!

i went and checked on him and he was on top of the covers, rather uncomfortably, and he had a dirty nappy too! oops! have now got him to sleep on me on the sofa.