Feb 2011 - it's all about the shred

[reastie]

welcome everyone

Hello ladies,

Hope you're all well . Not been for a few days as been v busy just getting through the day and getting over the weekend etc. (e.g. suitcase has only just been unpacked).

reastie and expat and Emski and anyone else sorry to hear you've been having night-time troubles. I too have cried with tiredness in the past. You know what though, sometimes those days when you feel like it's going to be one of those days, it actually turns out alright, maybe it's a managing expectations thing?

jane not saying anything as don't want to pre-empt but thinking of you with fingers crossed!

debka no idea how you had the energy to do all that cooking, no wonder you cocked some of it up lost focus towards the end!

wandering glad porridge is going well. C is 17 weeks and I'm going to hang on until 20 at least, but with her reflux problems, I feel better just knowing I 'can' now, even if I'm not going to, IYSWIM! Will probably start at around 20-22 weeks if she will have it, so I can get her a bit established before I go back to work. SHe might not have it though, then I'll have to leave to to others [gasp].

chocoroo how stupid of the HV not to give you weaning info, my HV picked me out at weigh in this week to tell me that this weeks pn group is on weaning and I should go as I'm getting to around the time I should be thinking about it. (and isn't it rather like not talking about safe sex to teenagers because if you don't talk about how to do it safely then they're obviously not going to do it at all are they?)

It looks like we're in the clear on the estate agent front, as they have only any right to money if we used another agent for the sale which we didn't.

Am very tho as we probably can't go on holiday now as the tyre blow out has revealed that I in fact need 3 new tyres and because they are stupid tyres for stupid wheels etc. it's going to cost £700 all told and that was really what we were going to spend on the holiday. I know really we were pushing it anyway thinking we could move house, have a holiday and still...you know...raise the baby etc. all in a couple of months, but it's still a bit sad as we haven't been away this year and probably won't now as maternity leave is ticking away and can't see us being any more able to organise it when I'm back at work and will have new house/rennovations etc.

Sorry that was a bit of a whinge, it's not the end of the world!

C has been lovely for days now really, apart from her horrid reflux attack (which was obviously horrid for her more than us) on Saturday, we are now on day 6 of being really very good friends, which is lovely! Lots of fun and smiles and giggles these days, starting to feel like I will miss some of this when I'm back at work (never thought I'd say that!).

She is also now getting better with tummy time (thanks for tips people), she can spend about 5 minutes at a time on her tummy, and will hold her head up and look at herself in the mirror, and grins if she sees either herself or me in it. Then she gets tired and rolls onto her back (with the very slightest helping little finger from me!) and pants like she's just run a marathon! So fear not, Oxford still a possibility, phew!

She lost weight this week actually, but I think it's just a blip - last week had put on way more than expected and TBH had been constipated so might have weighed a lot due to being full of poo!

Don't really want to end on poo, but really, woah, long post! So I'm shutting up now, for the moment!

Dx

reastie you poor thing. Is it time for a bit of tough love and leaving her to cry it out? Glad you're having a nice quiet day at home MNing, we all need that sometimes.

jack am also mega impressed at your routine, I suppose you have to be organised with two of them.

Right well you think I was productive yesterday, well, today I have Made Jam! Oh yes! Not very much jam, but jam nonetheless. Imy and I picked the blackcurrants this morning and there were only a 1lb on the bush.

jack don't know about a slow cooker fish pie recipe but you can just mix your fish with creme fraiche (low fat?) and maybe a handful of parmesan or cheddar, some spinach or peas, then mash on top then bake for about 1/2 hr, that's the quickest method I know. I tend to get meals like that done when the girls are sleeping or occupied, so if it all goes tits up at dinner time I can just switch on the oven.

jane quietly excited for you...

delia x post- glad to hear you and C are enjoying each other ATM. V impressed at rolling over :) Will join you in a buggery bollocks at the tyres. Our holiday this year was spent on a new prop shaft. :(

Wow, jack you are doing really well :) I'm still a bit proud when I get out of the house with one and my hair is brushed
deb I love firemen - do it again and send 'em over (along with cake, please!)
wandering I know - 6.50 lie ins.... I used to still be up at 6.50, beer in hand, karaoke in the background...
expat it's much easier to shred in the mornings isn't it? otherwise it just doesn't happen at all. This morning DP and I were up, shredded and showered while His Lordship slumbered on!
jane this waiting must be hard, hope we can distract you a bit with our ramblings. So excited for you :)
OK, I have to go and rescue DP from the town centre. I don't know if you've seen the news, but there was a big strike here today and it's turned into a riot in the square where he works - and a suit is a bit of a target! There's tear gas everywhere and the live footage on tv looks really bad. It's often not that scary close up tbh, and a few streets over you'd never know... but still. I'm not going into the square, but will pick him up on the main road (no public transport is working). I hope I get to see the famous "riot dog", I've seen him a few times downtown - he's brilliant!

deb will you stop outdoing me on the cooking stakes - I have my rep as a cooking teacher to upheld of jam.

d enjoyed your post as always. i'm so glad you don't have to pay the moneygrabbing estate agnts and :( to not going on holiday (well, at leasty mil definatly won't tag along ). you sound really positive enjoying time with claudia

alice still sleeping .hope this is a good sign as it's been nearly 2 hrs

debka she can roll onto her back from what I would call 'recovery position' on her front, i.e. if her arms and legs don't start completely flat and straight but roughly in a starting to roll position.

And mutual re no holidays cos of car woes.

reastie good news on A's sleeping today. C is always much better when she's had a really good midday sleep. Two hours is best, sometimes she does 2 x 45 mins with a bit of rocking in the middle!

Dx

Oh Reastie (hugs) I'm sorry you've been upset - yes, sorry, I gave a hug do't care how unmumsnetty it is - sometimes you just need one ok! Hope tonight is better!

Jane stop with the symptoms listing! Youre getting me excited!

I have to live through the excitement of other people PeeingOAS now, seeing as I'm never ever going to do it again [sob]

Delia crap about the tires! Just one thing after another!

Debka I'm jealous of your cooking! I can't cook for shit, I hate it - but I like eating

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels proud if I get the chance to brush my hair in the morning, ha! Actually, my timing for doing everything is getting a lot better in the mornings now, getting used to it I guess!

I keep trying to make some effort to make mysef feel better We went to the Trafford Centre on Sat and got some new stuff Fecking nightmare with the pram though - I nearly brained someone in New Look! People just don't get out of the way for you!

I'm jealous of all these babies rolling over, btw! DD2 hasn't rolled yet - well she has rolled off a cushion but not on a flat surface, so I tink it's the cushion

She keeps looking like she is going to but then she lies back flat

Oh well, the longer she stays immobile, the easier it will be for me she does tend to push herself up to the end of her cot though

byron at the rioting, hope your DH manages to escape it must be very scarey.

delia im glad you dont have to pay the estate agency anything. I am not going on holiday this year either, dont even know of we can afford a honeymoon

oops sorry for the symptom spotting, i know AF could turn up any minute. Don't get me wrong if iam pg i will be over the moon but at the same time not too upset if i am not. I am still a wee bit about the dates if i am pg a bit to close to Zoe's birthday for my liking. However i would be induced around 37/38 weeks so would have given birth twice within a year

Hi all, please allow me a self indulgent post whilst dd is sleeping so I can type this, then catch up if she stays asleep!

Am feeling a bit crappy, just had her weighed and she has dropped on her centile chart thingy, it means she's 2nd centile now - feel abit crap b'cos of her fussy feeding and (even though I know it isn't) feel a bit like its my fault too. hv seems to think she's teething [I am sceptical) and advised me to get these teething sachets that absorb on her tongue to try? Never heard of them before but will give it a go. She also said to put bonjela on her gums before feeds.

Also - last night she rolled over in her swaddle nearly onto her front, was worried about this anyway so checked the monitor at 3am when she was making a noise , so went in and untucked her arms from swaddle but then couldn't sleep properly b'cos I was stressing about her going onto her front and not being able to breathe. Anyone else had this?!

So suzy my swaddling buddy I think I might have to stop the swaddle Which will be a bit rubbish as I'm pretty sure she'll be more disturbed but will just have to hope it passes after a couple of weeks.

Right, she's still asleep so I'm off to catch up with posts - sorry for big long moan, (also deb feel free to ignore my worries about her dropping on her graph, I know you had a lot more stress with S :) )

Try giving birth twice within 20 minutes!

Okaaay I see you have covered some of the stuff I was moaning about further up thread

american I kept getting up in the night between 3am and 6am to check my pfb was still breathing - I was tired and still couldn't sleep I am a bit of a stress head though (as you can probably tell). Well done you on your eventful morning!

reastie have you tried the door bouncer yet? Am quite excited to hear how you got on!

delia how rubbish re: tyres, :( Nice to hear about smiley giggly C though, very cute. Do you know how long reflux lasts for/how old they are when it stops (on average)?

jackfrost your photo of the girls is lovely, I didn't post much when pg so didn't know you'd had them early - you're right though they do not look like prem babies?

Better go as little miss is stirring, oh did anyone watch Baby Hospital last night on itv? Cried my eyes out :(

Ponyo sorry you're feeling rubbish re A's weight and feeding. I had my stresses with C's weight in the early days and actually this week she has lost too, which I am not at the moment stressed about [convinced, anybody?]. The thing is, whilst it's important, I am starting to think there is a lot of focus put on weight by HVs and perhaps not enough on 'the whole baby', as in is she active, alert, etc. I know that feeding is important and we need to do everything we can to make sure it goes as well as possible, but sometimes, babies go on and off food, for any number of reasons.

My friend round the corner has a DD who is 14 weeks and started on the 90th centile and is now on the 50th. She's a bit worried and does have a Drs appointment for it, but the little girl is really very 'well' looking, developing, doing lots of new things etc. but just doesn't seem to be all that hungry. I know it's right to keep an eye on things weight wise as any digestive issues etc. need to be recognised early etc. but weight is not the only indicator of a healthy baby by any means.

FWIW I am convinced C has some kind of teething activity going on and is majorly on and off at some feeds. She's always been a fussy feeder with reflux and wind etc. so I can't say it's definitely teething, but I can tell sometimes she is hungry but just uncomfortable with this bottle.

And re reflux, most say it stops around 6-8 months. A lot are are lot better on solids as solid food is less likely to come back up, but it also coincides with them sitting up which keeps them upright more (so gravity helps) but also tightens up their core muscles a lot more. Something like 95% are completely over it by 1, but from what I have read, it must be something like 70% ish before 9 months.

D

ponyo sorry to hear you are feeling crap i'm sorry i have no advice but i am here to listen x

Hugs for the little ones teething, poor wee mites.

Yay, the mindees have gone and im finished for the weekend LOVE IT! Although I am being brave tomorrow and babysitting my friends 5 month old dd while she goes to a funeral,I am quite looking forward to some baby snuggles

Nice jane enjoy your loooooooooong weekend (alright for some, eh?).
DP is home safe and away from the petrol bombs being thrown downtown - phew

byron been watching on TV, and thinking of you quite proudly

ponyo you have my every sympathy, it is a worry but I've come to the conclusion that so long as they seem healthy and happy all is well. Far too much is done by weight charts IMO.

reastie been having a ponder on your bedtime situation. If Alice was my DD, I would feed her in a darkened room then put her straight in her cot. I do this with S- if she drops off the getting to the cot wakes her up a bit so she does go in awake. Then when she wakes up an hour later I would feed her again and put her back in her cot and not take her out of the dark room, idea being she realises it's bedtime and Mummy is NOT going to play. You may well have tried all this in which case ignore of course!

Was reading on reastie's bf thread (think it was you?) and there was a link about 4mo sleep regression which described S to a TEE. Really cheered me up. It basically said that at this age bf babies in particular don't concentrate long enough on feeds during the day to take enough milk to keep them going (doesn't apply so often to ff babies because they can 'see out' a bit more, plus the feeding is a bit more passive, AFAIK). Anyway, so it stands to reason that they'll be hungry and wake for feeds in the night. Link said feed them, they'll grow out of it eventually. This is exactly what S does, has crap feeds in the day and stocks up at night.

jane enjoy your long weekend lucky bugger

Eh up- someone needs to start a new thread- this one is on 990 or something!!!

Hey all, 40weeks I have given dd some of the Ashton & Parsons teething powders, I think it made her sleepy?! dp said it looks well dodgy rubbing white powder from a folded piece of paper on her gums

She has gone to bed in her gro bag and no swaddle , she's asleep on her side at the mo.

reastie hope A settles for you tonight. Good luck xx

byronic glad you got your dp back safe, sounds bloody terrifying to me. You sound very calm!

delia the hv today seemed convinced dd fussing on the bottle was b'cos of teething - she said to put bonjela on just before a feed, could be worth trying? You and deb are right, too much focus is on weight as otherwise she is alert, very wiggly etc. Thanks for reassurance.

Thanks jane, enjoy the babysitting tomorrow, hope the lo behaves

weAreBorg I did at "wearing the same clothes and smelling of milk" - ooh could there be another feb mmet up on the cards?!

Heres to a good nights kip all (though I am prepared for the worst :))

Hi, started a new thread

I'm not starting the new thread - can't take the pressure

byron glad you survived

ponyo good luck with grobag (btw we still half swaddle alice quite often)

Having another bad night - 2 hours to try to get alice to sleep and counting deb thanks for the comment but we have tried that already . She was obv tired and we spent an hour trying to keep her in her cot by any means but eventally gave up and she's had 2 top up ffs and I'm worried about milk supply issues as it is so feeling quite about it all :( she's finally asleep but next to me on my bed - haven't been brave enough to try getting her into cot yet

oh, deb - I couldn't be out done by all your cooking so I went in the garden and picked redcurrants, blackcurrants, loganberry and raspberries and made a big fruit crumble

d I know your friends situation is completely different, but it might help her if she knows alice went from over 90th centile to 25th and hvs arn't worried at all :)