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Snuffle baby and steam from the shower tend to work for grace! But it sounds like he's way more bunged uo than she's ever been. You can buy those suction bulb things as well but the thought of using them makes me feel a bit weird.

Quick question, what washing powder is everyone using. I'm still using fairy but it's shit! I know the whole point is that it's gentle but it's so bloody gentle that it won't wash clothes properly. Ended up buying areal actilift today but dunno if it's suitable for washing grace's stuff as it doesn't say if it's bio/non bio!

Snuffle baby and steam from the shower tend to work for grace! But it sounds like he's way more bunged uo than she's ever been. You can buy those suction bulb things as well but the thought of using them makes me feel a bit weird.

Quick question, what washing powder is everyone using. I'm still using fairy but it's shit! I know the whole point is that it's gentle but it's so bloody gentle that it won't wash clothes properly. Ended up buying areal actilift today but dunno if it's suitable for washing grace's stuff as it doesn't say if it's bio/non bio!

i used fairy at the beginning but started to just put them with the rest of the wash around 6 months. no particular reason, other than its easier. plus ive read in baby books that there isnt any reason to use seperate powder really for 99% of babies. only a small minority have a reaction. but if you are thinking that using bio powder is gonna be any better for getting out baby stains im afraid you may be disappointed! im not really a branded person, i just buy whatever is on offer, so ive had bold, surf, daz etc and them stains dont shift. gave them really ripe plums today and it looked like a blood bath- all over the face, neck and clothes- definately not coming out in the wash.
if you have older children (about 5 upwards) you can try the experiment that tests if they are egocentric still or if they have come out of it. get a smarties tube or something similiar. empty it and put a pen/pencil in it. then show them the box and ask them whats in it? they will say smarties. take lid off and show them the pen. then say, im going to ask daddy/grandma etc what she thinks is in here, what do you think they'll say? if they are still egocentric (the world revolves around them) they will say pen. if they smarties, then they can put themselves in someone elses position and understand how they might feel and are no longer egocentric .

I've still got quite a stash of fairy left so will use it on grace's clothes till it's gone but it doesn't smell of anything, I like clean clothes to smell clean and fairy just has no smell what so ever! I'm quite excited to do a wash tomorrow with areal and actually be able to smell it! I'm sad I know, I need to get a life!

I've still got quite a stash of fairy left so will use it on grace's clothes till it's gone but it doesn't smell of anything, I like clean clothes to smell clean and fairy just has no smell what so ever! I'm quite excited to do a wash tomorrow with areal and actually be able to smell it! I'm sad I know, I need to get a life!

Jodey there are loads of models and suppliers here but I got mine in International Stock in Kings Heath (they also had some in International Stock in Digbeth when I looked). I got the maxi cosi mobi but it's in a mustard yellow corduroy type fabric and it was £129. My sister got the Klippan Kiss for £149. She also bought a Besafe Izi Combi I can't remember where from but it was £200. There are some others here.

sassy I'm going to try the lipstick thing tomorrow if I can find a lipstick. Did you try these all on chloe? Is that why she's plucking and shaving already?!

I haven't used non bio for Luke for ages as it's rubbish and I couldn't be bothered to do separate washes, it is better but not great so o have vanish spray too and only buy darkish clothes!

Karvol plug in is good for bunged up babies but you may be able to get something better from the dr.

Watched just go with it tonight, very funny film!!

Thinking about the mirror trick, if Harlyn is looking in the mirror and I'm behind him making eye contact, he always turn around to look at me as though he knows it's my reflection he sees. I'll defo ttry the lipstick trick though.

Thanks for the links saoirse. I'll check em out.

Harlyn pointed his finger today rather than a whole hand gesture. He kept looking at his hand in amazement. So cute x

Last night was awful! I went to bed at 10 and grace woke up more or less straight away, I finally brought her into bed with me at 11.30 and it took till 12.30 before she fell asleep! She was tossing and turning all bloody night and woke up at 5 for about 20 minutes and finally went back to sleep till 6.20, I am knackered! Also I had to have my arm round her all night or she'd wake up meaning a very uncomfortable night for me and a sore shoulder this morning from lying in one position all night! She does seem very windy this morning so she possibly had an upset stomache!

One uk winner won the euro millions last night! Unforunately it wasn't me or I'd have already hired a nanny and gone back to bed!

ha saoirse you may mock but you have a girl! the joke will be on you! just you wait.......

oh god newmum im with you. i think i just had the worst night ever since they were newborns. isobel for once. poor thing was exhausted but crying in pain with trapped wind. cant tell you how many burps and trumps she was doing.
im not up yet as the alarm as gone off but for the 1st time ever babies are still asleep....... trust me be wide awake grrrr
gonna check my lottery now please god!!!!!!!!

umph its not me......not even 1 bloody number boooooooooo

I bloody hate it when MN goes "offline for a minute"! Grrrrrrr! My post went something like this:

sassy I was that girl! I was doing all the same things chloe is when I was in primary school. I was an early starter with periods at 9, wearing a 32C at 10, so when my legs got hairy I started shaving because I was embarrassed.

Orlaith's definitely waking out of habit. She woke at 12.45 and I went in to shut her up settle her but she was having a back arching tantrum. She started to calm down and I was rubbing her back and she started playing (with her eyes still closed) with the ties hanging off her cot bumper. These are not the actions of a baby who's in pain/unwell/hungry, these are the actions of a baby who already knows how to get around her mum.

saoirse - what does she do when you don't go to her? Shut up pretty quick or just get louder until you go in? Does it make a difference if DP goes to her instead?

My mum is picking Olly up from childminders today and am paranoid she is going to forget him!

On a brighter note (and risk of getting stoned by those who are tired!) Olly did his first proper nights sleep (i.e not waking in night or ridiculously early!) since he's been at the childminder. Not expecting it to continue but I did feel much happier when I woke at 7am rather than 5am!

Am very bored today in work....need something to amuse me! As did all my work yesterday...rookie mistake! Always stretch work out to last the week!!

Chelle she just gets louder and louder. The only time she might stop is if it's after about 7.30. Last night DP went to her at 2.20 when she woke up but she still cried loads. She's not quite as bad for him but he's not willing to get up very often (he only did it last night because I'd left her so long) and has less patience so is more likely to just feed her. I'm thinking that as we're going on holiday next week, now probably is't the time to tackle it too much as I think it'll all be too much change for her in a short space of time.

Good for Olly! ()

Well I feeli like a big pile of shit! Just put grace down for her afternoon nap and she went ape shit again! And I went in 3 times then came downstairs. She calmed down pretty quickly when I came down but she got herself so worked up like she has done at this time for the last 5 days! I really don't know what to do about it and I'm getting quite depressed. I spent the first 7 months of her life feeling like a prisoner cause of her needing to be rocked to sleep for up to 45 minutes meaning I couldn't have visitors around nap times and I couldn't be anywhere but at home and it got so much easier when she learnt to self settle. It meant I didn't have to kick people out when she was due a sleep but it looks like we're heading back that way. Don't get me wrong if she genuinely won't calm down I rock her as I can't stand to hear her so upset but after last night disaster I really haven't got the energy or the patience to do it today! She's had calpol and nurofen today incase it's her teeth, she's not hungry cause she's eaten loads and she's showing no signs of being poorly! I feel like shit that she's cried herself to sleep, it breaks my heart!

Well I feeli like a big pile of shit! Just put grace down for her afternoon nap and she went ape shit again! And I went in 3 times then came downstairs. She calmed down pretty quickly when I came down but she got herself so worked up like she has done at this time for the last 5 days! I really don't know what to do about it and I'm getting quite depressed. I spent the first 7 months of her life feeling like a prisoner cause of her needing to be rocked to sleep for up to 45 minutes meaning I couldn't have visitors around nap times and I couldn't be anywhere but at home and it got so much easier when she learnt to self settle. It meant I didn't have to kick people out when she was due a sleep but it looks like we're heading back that way. Don't get me wrong if she genuinely won't calm down I rock her as I can't stand to hear her so upset but after last night disaster I really haven't got the energy or the patience to do it today! She's had calpol and nurofen today incase it's her teeth, she's not hungry cause she's eaten loads and she's showing no signs of being poorly! I feel like shit that she's cried herself to sleep, it breaks my heart!

Lucy got the hang of object pemanence a month or so ago. It just seemed to happen overnight. One day she didn't follow her toys behind the table and the next she did. She is really clingy as well. Will try the lipstick thing as I think she will like that.
Do you know what age they can't do the 'walking on glass' thing where they walk over a seethrough floor with no fear?

We still use Fairy or Persil non-bio. I have crippling excema and am allergic to Bold, Ariel or Daz. DS suffers as well so it is easier to use Fairy on all of us. And I got 5 huge boxes of it from Tesco for a tenner each. I wash Lucy's nappies in it and they come up clean, any stained ones get put in the sun to bleach them clean, it works with quite a few stains as well.

Lucy was up last night at 2, 4 and 6am. So with dd2 being poorly I have had little sleep for 4 nightts now.

saoirse - she doesn't have a dummy does she? Olly changed dramatically at night once i started throwing 6 dummies in the cot with him - as he found them himself rather than wake me up to put one back in for him.

You might find she sleeps better while you are away? Olly weirdly did when he was younger....not sure y though.....

newmum - is she angry as in having a temper tantrum or is she genuinely upset? I think would impact on how you deal with it really? As in whether you should be ignoring the behaviour or comforting - do you see what i mean?

Olly had the biggest tantrum I've seen him do on Saturday. I was playing on the floor with him and he was laid on his back - I got up to go and do something in the kitchen and he normally just rolls over and gets himself up and follows me or carries on playing. But this time he flatly refused to get up and literally laid on the floor screaming and kicking his legs. DP and I just looked at him in amazement! We just said to eachother "right neither of us are picking him up because he is trying it on" and I swear he laid on that floor for half an hour kicking and screaming and then just stopped and got up as if nothing had happened....! Little git. He hasn't done it since!

It's a bit of both chelle, she starts off fine then cries a bit. Then gets really angry which end in a a major meltdown so I think it's attention she wants. She's fine going down for her morning nap (please go don't let the MN curse strike) and she went down fine for her afternoon nap on monday but every other day since saturday it has been screaming which is usually so bad I pick her up straight away but since I started picking her up and rocking her for her afternoon nap her night time sleep has got much worse! It's kind of which is the lesser of 2 evils, let her cry and hope her night time sleep improves or pick her up and suffer nights like last night for god knows how much longer.

To be fair it only took 15-20 minutes for her to go to sleep this afternoon (although it felt like a million years) which is better than the last few days but I'm just exhausted by it now!

newmum - I know it sounds really mean - but if its temper then I would just let her get on with it rather than end up back at square one with all the rocking etc....

But then I am a mean mummy.......

The last few days it's been blood curdling screaming, the kind where u can tell she'll scream like that for hours until you pick her up which is why I have picked her up straight away cause I knew she wouldn't have calmed down. Whereas today she was still screaming but kept stopping and starting so it was more temper and wanting her own way! I just hate leaving her to cry like that. Even on a good day she crys/whinges for a few minutes before going to sleep but since saturday it's been a fucking nightmare!

The last few days it's been blood curdling screaming, the kind where u can tell she'll scream like that for hours until you pick her up which is why I have picked her up straight away cause I knew she wouldn't have calmed down. Whereas today she was still screaming but kept stopping and starting so it was more temper and wanting her own way! I just hate leaving her to cry like that. Even on a good day she crys/whinges for a few minutes before going to sleep but since saturday it's been a fucking nightmare!

If that happens I just normally click on the back arrow and my post is still there saoirse86 ready to post again in a few minutes. Luke was awake at 11.30 last night and I didn't pick him up just put my hand on him an he stopped. He looked to me like he REALLY wanted to be asleep and was trying very hard but couldn't for some reason. Left him to cry and he woke up 5mins later and started again. I ended up in my sleeping bag next to his cot with my hand on his through the bars. He doesn't had problems settling at bedtime or naptime or any other time he wakes in the night, just around 12 and I am stumped why he's struggling and what is waking him then too.

Sorry to hear that newmum001, I'd be inclined to persist too if you know there's nothing else going on.

I don't really know what to advise newmum my lovely....other than ignoring her if its a tantrum. The thing with Olly is that he is very quick to catch on - which is why I dont go to him when crying or in the night unless completely necessary - otherwise he would play me like a fiddle! It will get better as she grows and learns....I know its a PITA while its happening though....hugs.x