June '05 Mummies 5 - the one with lots of smiles, and lots of cuddles.

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one brand new shiney thread, title thanks to eym.

hi mums not very good news im afraid my sis went into prem labour last nite baby was born through a section and little girl weighs 3 1/2 oz im so upset, youngest sis kath has gone to visit gill, and she said to wait till she calls us all tonite.

I have no experiemce of prem babies,only ones that i have cared for in my baby rooms but obviously they were a lot older.

Feel very shocked and dont know what to do im sorry this post is so sad xxxxx

EYM - so sorry to hear that. All I can say is that I know of a lot of preemies that have been born weighing less than that and have gone on to grow into healthy strong children. Amazing isn't it? Someone was telling me the other day that preemies quickly become stronger and more resilient than full term babies.

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EYM - thinking of you, hope all turns out okay.

I'd like to invite you all to my Truly Madly Baby party on the 1st of Nov at 8pm at my house. If anyone would like to come then either CAT me or email myname @ hotmail.co.uk

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EYM-Sending you a big((((hug)))).Wishing your sister a speedy recovery and positive vibes for her little girl.x

EYM, so sorry to hear about your sister and her baby. I'm keeping everything crossed for them both, and sending you a big hug.

EYM - Thinking of you and your sis. Keep us posted. Will be thinking of you all.
CTF - I think you have missed my point that it is dd1's voucher I haven't invested as well as dd2's. Eeek. Have asked for a pack from F&C as they were recommended somewhere. Tempted to go 'high risk' stocks and shares as it is bonus money rather than stakeholder and perhaps change to stakeholder in the future. It is all too much.
Lummox - Glad you hear of your rich milk lol. I would def take that as a compliment. DS obviously is thriving without being weaned.
Trib - Ouch. Poor you.
Lua - I am sure the sleep lady is used to worse. So sorry about DH's grandmother too .
DD2 up every two hours last night and every HOUR before. Gave into Calpol at 4.30am but it only gave us an extra hour. Yawn.
My mum and stepdad are out at the moment so I probably won't be around much for the next week. At least not posting. I will be popping on to see how you are doing EYM.
Take care all.

morning mums aw thank you so much for your concern, sis kath called me, thier testing baby for downs, and they said my sis can stay in 3 days which im amazed at, but obviously baby has to stay in till full term im hoping to go see them tom nite. Im very upset I look at our william and hes perfect sorry anyway i will keep you updated love to all angie EYM xxxxx

morning all

EYM- lots of hugs, hope sis recovering and little one doing well. premmies do well these days. my friends cousin had a baby under 24wks on new years eve and all ok now. lots of positive warm thoughts.

lummox- returning to work is giving me a lot of sleepless nights, worried days and quite a few tears. i am sure all will be resolved fine but worried about all sorts of practicalities (expressing,bf) as well as the fact that i will miss her terribly.
i will probably go back in jan or feb. working full time but flexibly so that DH and i can share the care. details to be worked out. but my work days can be long and unpredictable, maybe consider change in career at some point.

here lovely weekend, first spoons of baby rice very amusing she seemms curious.will keep to few spoons at lunchtime for the rest of the week and see how it goes. think at this point its just about learning a new skill.

nights still disrupted, last night dd asleep at 7.30 until 12.00 , woke 3.30; 4.30, 5.30 then 7.30. so glad i went to bed at 10.

hope you all have a good day

EYM - sorry to hear your sister's news. How many weeks was the baby when she was born? Best friend's baby boy born at 29 weeks and is 4 now and doing fabulously so have a litte experience if it helps.....

Ds really regressing on the sleep front since he had his cough/cold - last night it was 10pm, 1am, 3am and then he grumbled for 2 hours before crashing out again...I look like the wreck of the Hesperus (don't know what that actually looks like but sounds bad...) Have called sleep lady and left a message as we need to be taken in hand and told what to do -too tired to think myself.

Hope things are better for others - I feel like I've hit a wall of exhaustion, I have mouth ulcers, a permanent sore throat, I'm really run down - nearly 5 months is too long to be doing this, shame adorable ds doesn't realise it....

EYM, I'm so sorry to hear your sister's news, what a worry for you all. How prem is the baby? I do hope you will have positive news soon.

Welshie, sleep sounds grim. I saw your other thread about controlled crying - we did it quite young with ds, I don't think he had hit 6 months when we did it. We knew that the waking was habit with him, rather than a need for anything, and it did work. I had a book from these people and it was a godsend. It felt a bit less harsh than controlled crying, they have a couple of different methods that they discuss.

Hope Monday is being good to you all - lovely sunny day here which is always good for lifting the spirits.

afternoon mums hugs

Sis gill was 33 weeks this week, havt heard anymore, but my lovely best friend camr round and gave me a hug, we talked about baby and she put me more in prespective of the situation feel a whole lot better now, stronger.

Its just that we had treeple test with william and the results were high that will would be downs sydrome so this is so close to home.

I really hope i am not offending anybody please tell me to shut up if i am by all my posts.

Anyway another note william had his second injection today and is a bit crabby love to you all angie xxxxx

Hi All,

I've done a quick catch up on the concise thread.

EYM - sorry to hear about your sister. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Mrs F - we've been sacked by about 4 cleaners. I swear that we treat them well, they just walk out on us after about 3 weeks. Our present cleaners have lasted a year now and i tippytoe round them in case they threaten to leave as well.
Lua, sorry to hear about DS's grandmother.

Someone mentioned going back to work. I start full time on the 19th Dec. I'm dreading it, least of all because my brain is totally jelly still and i'm really worried if it will start ful functioning again in time.

Someone else mentioned Nigella's Clementine cake. mmmm. I've just made her Quadruple Chocolate Cake. Mmmmm...mmmmm........ And I wonder why i'm not losing any weight

lots of hugs to all you having sleepless nights. ...

afternoon mums hugs

my sis little girl has now been transerved to shef childrens hosp she may need an opperation something to do with her bowel, could be hurgensen diease spelt that wrong. but maybe just an infection from been prem baby, so she is been given a course of antibiotics first, i have now spoke my sis and she is in good spirits and we are going to her and baby tonite.

love to you all xxxxxxxxx

EYM - glad you and your sis are feeling a bit better about the situation, there is just so much expertise within the health care system now in the area of prem babies, they can do so much more for them and the outcomes are so good, it does provide a great deal of hope I think -love to you and your family.

JonahB - I'm back at work from the 28th of Nov so I know what you mean about jelly brain - part of me (the unrealistic part) is looking forward to getting into the workplace again. I haven't begun to think about missing my dear wee boy or the sheer amount of juggling I'll be doing. Good job I have understanding bosses....

Ds's sleep patterns are being addressed currently with the help of the sleep lady who reckons he should be sleeping through......he doesn't hey ho - am managing to remain cheerful despite the 10pm.12am,2am,4am (and then talking/ shouting and moaning for more than an hour) that mad eup last night....feel a bit sick thinking about it actually.

Bought another pair of boots - hopefully won't be taking these back...see, in the midst of it all I retain the ability to shop - can't be that bad then....

Love to all

Hiya!

Funilly enough welshie, talked to sleep lady myself today.... She also reckons my little guy is biologically readyto sleep through. Shealso think we shouldstart on solids. TBH she told me to do what I already knew I need to do, but need a kick in the behind to do it... So here we go... tonight is no breastto sleep,and no co-sleeping. Goodness help my neighbor and DD, it shall be fun in the lua household this evening!
Good luck to the welshie household and keep on shopping!

EYM - keeping my fingers crossed for your sister's baby.

I am also getting ready to go back to work soon. DS will startatthe nursery next month for a few hours everyday.I am lucky thatI don't have to go staraightbeck into a full schedule, but it will be hardanyway.

sorryguys...keyboard getting sticky!

EYM - if you want a cup of tea or just a friendly face when you're in sheffield then please do come up and see me. i'm about 5mins on the bus from the Childrens hosp. CAT me and i'll send you my phone number.

Good luck Lua - hope it goes really well. I was and still am delighted to stop co-sleeping - my left side is almost back to normal now . Ds is on his solids too as of yesterday, he's wolfing it down with a big grin on his face....will it affect his sleeping??? well, I always start the evening off optimistically.....

EYM - hope that there is good news for your sister and your new niece. It must be very hard for the whole family.

Lua - really good luck. In a two steps forward, one step back kinda way things have been improving on the sleep front here. I emailed the sleep lady some questions this morning and had a reply within the hour. Impressive stuff!

If nothing else, addressing the daytime naps has made ds a much sunnier guy, and that helps me cope with the nights a lot better.

Welshie - interesting that the sleep lady said that about your ds being capable of sleeping through the night. Our sleep plan said that until ds is on three solid meals a day (which is probably a few weeks off yet) he may not be able to sleep through.

Sorry everyone, a sleep-obsessed post again

Interesting to hear about going back to work thoughts. I've had to do six days of work over the last few months, but dh has brought the baby to where I was working and so I've carried on feeding - bit indulgent but breastfeeding was such a struggle for me that I couldn't bear the thought of it going pear-shaped. I dreaded them beforehand, but felt kinda good afterwards.

The nappy-brain thing wasn't the problem I'd thought it was going to be, but the guilt was horrific. Really not sure how things are going to feel come January.

Hi all,

Been away for a couple of days, but now back and revving up for the move to the land of clogs and shawls.

Katz, what a shame, I will be oop north on 31st October but heading back the same day. Next time for definite!

Lua, glad you survived long enough to have your consult with the Sleep Lady Simply instruct ds "my dear, you are biologically ready to sleep through AND SO YOU SHALL". When that doesn't work, go back to her plan. For my neighbs she suggested letting them know in advance there might be noise and asking for their indulgence. However, I take the view that since they never ask for my indulgence they can basically take a flying one. Best of luck to you, keep the faith.

Welshie, I can't imagine where you summon the energy to shop from but a Junie salute of respect to you for it. Ds sounds like he has not yet fully absorbed the wisdom of the Sleep Lady, but it can only be a matter of time. And what happened in your street? It all sounds v dramatic.

EYM, hope everything goes well with the tiny one, keep us posted and all the best to you and your sis xxx

Jonah, dreading my return to work as well, beginning of Dec for me. Of course my brain is in some kind of permanent power-down mode, which doesn't help, but equally I don't want to be away from ds all day. BUT have no choice, as there's no-one else to bring dosh into the tribpot household To be honest, I hate the idea of ds in nursery, I don't know why - I know lots of you Junie ladies have your kids there and of course they are all fine and you are all fabulous mums. But I hate the idea of anyone else taking care of ds. I assume you get over this phase? (Or have to?) Well, dh and I are talking about some possible alternative scenarios just in case, maybe returning to Sweden where I can probably earn enough to only work half the year.

lummox, I think I estimated dh's additional sleep need as being at least 75% extra. Chronic fatigue? Schmonic fatigue! Actually due to the Sleep Lady's harsh "no daddy in the room" policy, he's been having to do a couple of hours in the morning whilst I catch up with some z's, which is killing him, ha ha (not literally). This morning we switched over at 4 a.m. (after which ds is restless as b*ggery anyway) and I think that worked better. As to le broadband en français, well done!

Lippy - happy birthday dp and well done dd1 for her swimming prowess!

Bubba, good news about your mum. You've written your Christmas cards?! It's OCTOBER! Great news about your extra leave.

Lynny, hope the excema is doing okay just now?

Coop, looking forward to your return to the UK, I must post on our North meets South thread to say let's hope we can find a date you can do.

MrsW, I am most pleased to hear the sun is shining in your/our corner of the northern lands. Hurrah for that! Poor little ds2, you are obviously at the very end of your tether with the little rascal. As to dh, maybe remind him there are no Oscars for poorly daddies? (And if there were, sorry, my dh is scooping the prize). Well, we shall be neighbs soon and I hope I will be able to help out, provided my ds keeps up his winning streak of not getting colds. I'm sure all this breastfeeding can't be good (Joking ladies, I know it's because most of your little ones are being exposed to germs from nursery via their older sibs).

Also, I like the fact you have set yourself a realistic Big Brother task, will be following your lead for this week's update. Will it be:

• comprehensive review of Sainsbury's Chilean wine selection
• ongoing quality control of Jaffa cakes
• additional research in the field of M&M consumption
• all of the above?!

Well ladies I think you know the answer

evening all
i am optimistic that dd is down for the night, or at least untill 12.30 when festivities begin.
Had an awful night yesterday mostly due to nasty migraine. today both of us were out of sorts.

the baby rice thing is going well and i got a few frozen veg purees to follow on next week. so far messy and fun.

re work DH has shared his anxiety about being in sole charge of dd for the whole day, guess we will have to have a few trial half days. somehow it makes me feel better, he also says he hates the facy that he sees so little of her during the week. really hope it works out and we can arrange this shared care. i just cant do nursery.

hope all of you with sleep issues keep strong and things get easier, or we get used to it...

bubb-good news!

EYM-hope things get resolved soon.

Have been reading the thread but have been too tired and fed up to post, but now DS2 is lying on his activity gym, just about ready to nap so I thought I'd take the opportunity to have a bit of a catch-up.

Coop, can't believe your DD has got a tooth already! I thought DS1 looked suddenly loads older once his first tooth appeared, it was very strange.

EYM, hope the visit to the hospital went ok. How are they both today?

Lua, hope the sleep lady has worked wonders with your DS and that you are feeling rested today. Sleep deprivation is a form of torture isn't it? Have been suffering myself over the last few weeks and it's just grinding me down. Welshie, hope the sleep lady also had words of wisdom for you too.

Trib, the sun is still shining today Hope you don't bring all the rain with you like you did last time you came up north. I think you're right, the germ-laden older sibling is definitely to blame for DS2's ongoing cough/cold/general illness. How's your hand, has the burn gone down?

Lua, sorry about your DH's grandmother. Whatever age, it's still sad news for the family.

Coop, I also haven't invested DS1's CTF voucher . I've sent off for various information packs and they are now gathering dust in my 'I really need to sort this stuff out' pile of old post in the kitchen.

Have given up on Lost, DH is still watching it though. I liked the sound of Weeds when I read a review but missed it - when's it on?

Well DS2 has still got a cough, but last night he was only up three times with it, rather than every half an hour like the previous few nights. Does anyone have any useful tips for making things easier for him? I've tried raising the cot mattress at one end, bought some baby cough mixture and boiled a kettle in his bedroom (for the steam, not so he can make himself a cup of tea when the urge takes him). All work to some degree I suppose, especially the kettle (he seems to relax just at the sound of it heating up for some reason) but nothing is actually making him any better. Health visitor is coming round today, so I'll see what she says.

For those who are still breastfeeding - roughly, how many times do you think you feed your babies during the day/night? DS2 doesn't seem to be feeding very much either and I'm not sure if it's because he's ill or what.

Another one here feeling very strange about going back to work. I'm intending to go back in January but feel quite tearful at the thought (unlike last time when I couldn't wait). DS2 will be going to the same nursery as DS1, we don't have any other option as DH can't reduce his hours and we don't have family nearby. In an ideal world, we'd get paid for staying off work and looking after the children - I desperately miss earning my own money but am dreading the thought of not being with my boys.

Right, must go and tidy up whilst DS2 is still asleep, house is a complete tip because I've been too tired to tidy up. Yippee, my cleaner/sanity saver comes tomorrow

morning mums hugss

ok went to see my beautiful neice last nite, our little girl deffainantely has down syndrome, and other complictaions but shes such a fighter, and i can see our william in her tiny little face which made me cry.

Sis has been through through an awful and horrendus past couple of days but she is focused and is now comming to term with condition of her baby girl. She is expressing milk for her baby girl too which is helping her.

I now feel better for seeing my sis, and our little bundle of love, she is so perfect. We will now all take one day at a time thats all we can do.

Katz thank you so much for your post, and next time we are in sheffield during the day i will pop and see you, i really do appreciate that hunny.

Ok ive just got back from hospital with william for his check up on his fluid in his scrotum, which the consultant didnt seem to impressed about, basically she said come back in a year and if it hasnt gone down well opperate dohhhhh well i give up with hospitals just wanted to get out there soon as poss, dread what they will say about william heart murmur but thats another day.

love to all mums i know were all having a hard time at the moment so just be strong and trust your own feelings thats what im doing xxxxxxxxx