June '05 Mummies 5 - the one with lots of smiles, and lots of cuddles.

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one brand new shiney thread, title thanks to eym.

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Lynny - so pleased about Jessica's skin looking so good now.

Lippy - give the homeland my love - eat plenty of cake and scones - that's what I do whenever I go home.

Coops - congrats on the first Junie tooth - we should have had a sweep for that too

Trib - I'm confused about how the sleep is going for you now? any better?

Thanks for asking about dd's injuries - I've resolved to always have an icepack in the freezer as her fingers are perfect - not even a bruise.

The visit to her potential school was very successful - really great place. Now we just have to get her in there.....

Welshie, Toby's sleep is going well, and he's having his daytime naps on his own which is a dramatic improvement. But sleep lady took the view that dh doing the night feeds was a no-no because of his snoring. He can't even sleep in the other room as the snoring is clearly audible through the wall (which keeps me awake) so the only way of working it is for him to be at the other end of the flat, listening in on the baby monitor, and me in the room with ds - cos dh has the mattress off the spare bed because the sofa bed is too hard for him. It's a nightmare! So my personal sleep is much worse.

hi everyone

Trib - re the monitors, make sure they con't interfer with each other, the house behind us had the same monitors as us and we could hear they're baby on ours!!! and our gardens are both a good 20 foot long!

Coop - congrats on being the first with a tooth

weaning going well - tried carrot yesterday and she hoovered it up, wanted more, but we're taking it all very slowly.

does everyone else agree that life would be more straight foward without memebers of their families? my SIL is a PITA. She hasn't rung to wish her niece happy birthday and in her card she wrote oh you can have your present when you come and visit. ahhhh DD is only 3 and doesn't understand why there is no parcel from her auntie and 3 weeks is a long time to have to wait to get it. i don't understand why she didn't jus post it or buy something suitable to post, or why we have to go to her to visit. we live 4 hours away and have 2 children and DH is a teacher so we have restrictions when we can take holiday. she has a lump of a boyfriend and 6 weeks annual leave which moans that she doesn't mange to take it all. ahhhh. just to add to my moan, we are going to visit for 2 days and do you think she has booked anytime off? NO!!!!

Trib - could the sleep lady tackle dh's snoring??

morning mums hugssss

well first called my sis gill she is fine, scan went well checked placenta, and waters, still measuring 30 cm at now 33 weeks but they were happy with her, i was so worried for her.

We had very unsetttled nite with william, woke 4 times grrrr i think its his cold, so i was like walking zombie this morn. Hubby half asleep going to work least its friday.

Lynny hunny waves lovely to see you so glad jess is better hugs.

Ktaz your doing really well with your weaning thats great news im sure william is teething too.
Shame about your SIL my eldest sis hasnt been in touch since william was 2 weeks old so i sent her tex saying how well hes doing, never mind.

right wills wont have nap helpppppp lol

Hi ladies

Have just updated the concise thread with my (limited) news so I shan't bore you here... Hope you're all well - nearly the weekend

Lynny - sorry to hear about jess's excema, glad it's clearing up OK, poor wee thing. Food related things are a nightmare, they can really be trial and error (took me weeks to realise that it was eggs that were bringing ds out in a rash and making his mouth sore when he was smaller ).

Trib, I would go with the baby monitors too. How big a hotel is it? We've done it a couple of times in small/medium sized ones, one of us stays in the room and makes some noise first so we know we have reception OK.

Coop, glad you had a good holiday!

EYM, glad the news from your sister is good.

Charley - don't know if you are around at the moment but I saw an old thread of yours about Bournemouth and where to live. I've been driving obsessively around the Southbourne area the last few days to get a feel for it and I really like it. We weren't planning to live in town but now we are here we find we like it... plus ds is in school so we need to work around that. Southbourne and Hengistbury Head are our current hotspots.

Anyway, off to retrieve ds from in front of the TV - he is knackered after school even with half days so not sure how he will be when he starts full time.

Have good weekends all.

evening all
still difficult in our household, one good night two not so good. sooo tired!
must sort out daytime naps usually only sleeps 1/2hr each time if i am lucky, today the combined total was 45mins.

dh appears to have lost his marbles, a couple of nights ago he got up started getting ready for work, it was 3am, i didnt tell him anything since i was up bf, it provided some entertainment bad bad wife.
eventually he looked at the clock and went back to bed grumbling and proceeded to snore loudly, i think in vengeance.

coop -nice to see you back, congrats on tooth. do you bf? does it hurt?

eym- glad things ok with sister, fingers crossed.

trib-not been yet, cambridge seems far particularly since these days just going to town gives me a panic attack have i answered this yet? sorry brain mush). the review thread is very funny but very hard to remain spoiler free. funny how nothing on then 3 come along i really want to see.
re hotel lordy am way to paranoid to leave child in room, but you really must do what feels right for you and have a good time, seems sensible.

hope all of you having sleep problems remain calm and hopefully get some proper sleep soon.

Hello all
I am very embarrassed to say that we have stillnot invested dd1 (let alone dd2's) child trust fund money. There was an article in the Telegraph (my dad had) that said there are 900 000 of us so don't feel too bad. Trying to research it again now and remembering why I gave up the first time.
SFX - Yes I am still bf and no dd's tooth does not hurt. She clamped down on me a few times while teething which was sore but I just took her off right away to try to teach her that she lost out if she did that. I think it will be fine as I b/f dd1 for 12 months and she had teeth from 6 mths and only bit me once. Fingers crossed.
Good to hear from you Mrs F. I will nip over to the concise thread to catch up lol.
EYM - Glad all is OK with your sis. What a relief.
Lynny - I missed Jessica's food related excma problems. Poor you and poor Jess. Have you a date for your op yet. I meant to say ages ago that your dh looks quite dishy on the yahoo site.
Crap day cleaning today. My cleaner is on hols in Athens and boy do I miss her. I have completely forgotten what to do and it took forever with dh and I doing it due to the dmeands of the dd's. Sorry to those of you who don't have the luxury of a cleaner. It will be the thing I miss most from here. I think I will just have to throw everything out so I have nothing to dust .
Is anyone else watching Lost? I am not sure I can be bothered with it an more. Last episode was annoyingly weird and I am truly Lost! Not quite Desperate Housewives is it? Right off for now.

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Hi all,

Just discovered my nephew has measles I'm assuming even if his sister gets it too they will both not be infectious by the time we see them at the end of the month? But I wonder why babies aren't immunised against it til they're a year old?

Sfx, no worries - hope you get to see it soon! My plan to have my mum babysit ds has been foiled as she is away the weekend we are homeless during the house move. (Was planning to go there for the weekend so she could dote on ds and I could go and see Serenity!)

Coop, I've only just done our CTF, the whole thing is just far too complicated isn't it? Basically I wanted a stocks & shares investment as that should give a higher return over 18 years (plus it's not our money!) so went for the Nationwide tracker fund. But at some point I might move it to a 'self select' CTF (where you could buy whatever shares you wanted) and buy units in a tracker fund through that, cos the management charges are much lower, so more of the money stays in the investment. Hope that helps a bit! Our main savings for ds won't be in the CTF though, as has been mentioned before, the idea of letting him loose with a large wodge of cash aged 18 does not appeal.

EYM - good news about your sis.

welshie - I'm afraid there are some miracles even the sleep lady cannot perform! I can't get dh referred to a sleep clinic until we move, although the doc thinks they will say it's just because of all the medication he's on. It's not though because he was like that before.

Katz, I can't work out why you are going to visit your SIL. Can you not cancel?

Lynny, glad Jess is so much better now.

Trib - we're going because someone has to be the grown up, DH wants to go and try and clear the air, also we're going to Wales to see my parents first so it would be very petty not to stop in on her on the way back but i really don't want to go and have told DH one snide remark or dig then i'm out of there.

Fair enough Katz, at least you're not making all the journey just for her sake. I fear your dh's efforts may be doomed to failure though, you're quite right - someone has to be the grownup. Fortunately in my family we all get on well, and in dh's family they mostly just never see each other (with the notable exception of MIL of course).

Btw, should maybe have included this in my 'bad' summary for the week, I managed to pour a kettle of just-boiled water over my hand this morning. (Clumsiness gets worse the tireder I am so I am constantly burning and hurting myself, but this was a stellar moment). OUCH. Fortunately it just looks like a bad sunburn.

hello all
not a great night but a glorious day
slept until 9.30 then off to Kew gardens for the day with DH and friends. beautiful sunny day leafs turning really lovely

hope you all have a nice time with the little ones

trib - ow just reading that. hope it's feeling a bit better.

katz - well done for going. things like that can fester in a family, and it's got to be best to put things on a courtesy level if nothing else. at least you'll know that any breakdown isn't your fault.

have just updated on the concise thread, so this is just a quickie to wish everyone a good weekend.

glad Jessica feeling better, Lynny.

Oh and on the CTF, we just put ours in the Nationwide. We are also not going to add anything else to it (not only because of the 18 thing, but also because the management charges are so high), so not sure it really matters all that much. Neither of us are financial experts, so it's pretty much shut your eyes and put a pin in the paper. We're going for premium bonds with the rest of the cash we are investing for ds.

lummox, like the Big Brother addition to the concise thread, although I have never seen it bar a few eps in Series 1, so may struggle to keep up. If we housemates had set ourselves the same task we would also have failed. In fact I am sure if I didn't have a cleaning lady (necessitating weekly tidy-ups and hiding last week's ironing so she doesn't realise I haven't put it away yet) the house would probably have sunk under its own weight in dust and laundry by now.

Embarrassed to say we have a cleaning lady too, trib.

That's the only reason we have washing done and put in piles . Adn why it's so pathetic that I can't even put those piles away.

Forgot to mention on concise thread that went to the French doctor to have second set of jabs yesterday.

ds (who I think I may have mentioned is a bit of a chubster) has put on quite a lot of weight in the seven weeks since the last jab. The doctor asked if we were weaning yet and when i said no, he said that my breastmilk might be a bit rich for the baby.

Am trying not to be pissed off about it. Particularly as he then said that we should be giving the baby vegetables, but not put too much salt in them.

(Was heartened by a friend who suggested that French doctors are not very pro-breastfeeding as it interferes with Monsieur's marital rights ).

Also dh is doing a good impression of ds pulling off the breast saying "haven't you got anything a bit lighter, mummy?" (although maybe you have to be there for that one).

It's not pathetic lummox, it just demonstrates that you are fully bonded with your baby and thus cannot tear yourself away from him (or, ahem, MN) long enough to put the laundry away. My excuse too. Hurrah for us!

As to French doctor, that really makes me laugh! Only a male doc would come out with that line, French or not. I trust you will utterly ignore this advice on the grounds of complete daftness.

I miss our cleaning lady... she sort of sacked us (I choose to believe because she found better paid work rather than because we are so revolting).And in any case she's in Bristol and we're not any more - reminds me I was going to look for one here. I am either manically, anally retentively tidy or wallowing in a mire of mess feeling depressed about it. Currently in the mire of mess and in danger of losing one or both of the children in a washing landslide.

Have only just got the voucher for the CTF - was a bit slow off the mark with the child benefit. Will do a stocks and shares one I think - like you say,not our money. Feels a bit mean for ds, who didn't get one, will have to stick him some money in premium bonds or something to make up for it.

Trib - ow for your hand! Re the measles, I think that if you have had it yourself, the baby has a certain amount of immunity for a time. Hopefully they will be all better in time.

Obsessively watching Lost here - gives me and dh something to talk about . We have many theories about it all. Did anyone see Weeds? think that is going to be my Desperate Housewives replacement.

Aaargh, furious screaming baby here, will have to go, time to get them to bed and hit the wine (miserable awful Saturday in the flowerpot house, all of us tired and stroppy).

lol lummox re the french doctor. (Do French baby mags still have weaning recipes that include 'season to taste'?? Remember ds thought French baby food marvellous for the sugar/salt content.)

really going now ti soothe angry baby.

hello again
been updating concise

trib-ouch!

lummox- french doctor been recommending red wine soon, or perhaps cognac to send them to sleep

cleaning lady- wish had one but dont think can justify in 2 bed flat, still try to persuade visiting relatives to do something. i have blitz cleaning phases sometimes

lost- watched current series sometime ago before baby arrived and over first weeks when she was sleeping all the time, kind of thing i enjoy, prob be watching new series soon. lots of lovely eye candy really

Hi everyone1

Lummox - your french doctor comment just cheered my evening up! Hilarious! I wonder if some of us are more a skim milk producers while other (you, apparently ) are full milk producers!!
Mooooo!

• yes, stiiiiiiill going on! Called sleep lady and made an appt. But she will only have time to talk next tuesday. Wonder out loud if I would still be alive by then, and now she thinks I am a real basketcase1 Oh, well i am at the moment....

On a sadnote Dh's grandmother passed away yesterday. She was 97, so not unexpected,but I'm even more sad because we are going to see her in two weeks! bummer!

We had a gorgeous day today! hope you all have a good weekend!

sfx, I live in a 2 bed flat, and still perfectly easily justify a cleaning lady. So you go girl!

Lua, hope the sleep lady will be able to do something, just keep the faith til Tuesday. Sorry to hear about dh's grandmother. A fine innings, though.

Lua - sorry things still no better. Am pretty sure the sleep lady won't think you a loony. I was doing a pretty good impression of someone totally loopy when I rang her the first time.

On the skimmed/full fat breastmilk, think we are all producing the same, but some doctors speak higher grade b**cks than others.

sfxmum - we used to have a cleaning lady when we lived in a 2 bed flat as well. before having ds we used to put the clean washing away. wellll, best of three we did.

Mrs F - lol at being sacked by your cleaning lady. Having once been sacked by a milkman (he came round for a week, and then just stopped coming - still delivered to the rest of the street) I now how it can be. Interested to hear about your ds and French baby food. It does all have salt and sugar in it, most of it has garlic and other quite strong seasonings too. Where am I going to find info on how soon I can give the baby Madeira sauce?

trib - can't now remember if you said about your dh needing 75% more sleep on this thread or the sleep thread, but meant to ask how he can be so precise?

and another question to all - when are people planning on going back to work? Am thinking of part-timing from January, which seemed like ages away when the baby arrived, but is getting frighteningly clase.

hi

have updated the concise thread.

all i can taste is envelope glue, yuck 26 bloody than you letters thats what i've written.