June '05 Mummies 5 - the one with lots of smiles, and lots of cuddles.

[katzguk]

one brand new shiney thread, title thanks to eym.

well dd2 had her hip scan today, all is well, yeah

just a quickie...

congrats to katzguk dd2 (am pleased to know the reason behind your nickname, btw, had always thought of it as one word in my head - something slightly Russiany or Polishy, maybe).

swaddling - we swaddled ds until he was about 14 weeks, when he went bananas if he couldn't get his own hands to suck (roughly coincided with start of bad sleep but there was no convincing him). We used ordinary grobags for a bit, but then found one which had sort of padded sleeves where you can fold down the end to mittens if you want. Seems to be a good compromise for ds - also am not so worried that he will get cold.

Sorry, meant to also say good to know reason for your nickname too, Jonah. Think it a lovely thing to keep the name.

Yes Jonah, lovely nickname. I feel really bad that mine is not in any way connected with babies or motherhood Perhaps I should change it to tribpotmum or something similar.

Katz, fab news about dd2 and happy birthday to dd1.

Tea, good to see you, glad you're having a good time with the relatives and hope dd's christening goes well on Sunday.

Bubba, good to see you too! And glad all is well.

MrsW, was your dh doing 'am dram' throwing up all night?! Even mine doesn't do that (And if he made that much noise in front of ds I would tell him to tone it down). I have to say, even dh is a drama queen about being ill or minor ailments like stubbing his toe or whatnot (always nearly fracturing it, obviously, never just "causing temporary pain" like I do). You would think that having a genuine illness might add perspective, but no. If you do get his complaint, be sure to "accidentally" throw up on him, in his ear if you can manage it

RHM, my dh was quite resistant about the sleep lady as well, it's that typical guy thing of not wanting to ask for help or directions or admit to not knowing anything at all. The blessing for me was that I managed to schedule the call for during one of Toby's sleeps (purely coincidental) so dh could be in on the call as well. I know it's harder to get hold of her in the evenings, but that may help you too.

EYM, what a shame about your sis What was it about her monitoring that they didn't like, not enough movement?

Lua, not sure about 'man teething'. I was a nightmare with teething (according to my mum), and screamed for half an hour as each tooth was actually erupting. My bro on the other hand was easy as pie, would wake up in the morning and there the tooth was. My bro is still a much more easy-going, happy-go-lucky guy, so I don't know if 'teething personality' is reflected in the rest of life!

We're moving in on 7th November, so we must plan a northern ladies' meet up before I go back to work I guess. Shall I start a thread on that one too?

I loved the article on weaning on to enchiladas, mind you, I bet they do that in Mexico. Will poss add some chilli powder to one of of ds' bottles and see what happens. (Not)

Sfx, where are you, I think London? Shame as I would happily abandon dh with the baby in order to go and see Serenity, even though he wants to see it too. If you could make Cambridge, we could go together.

KVG, "no cry sleep solution" woman has a way of gently weaning a baby off a dummy, I guess a finger is the same, will look it up and let you know.

Welshie - you're quite right about the yogurt. There are loads of things where I take the books with a pinch of salt (so to speak - no salt before 1 year!) but nutrition is my obsessive point. I am quite sure that 99.9% of babies can easily have dairy & wheat at 4 months, I am just paranoid about it because of dh. He is convinced ds has inherited all of his health problems so it's a constant battle to try and prove otherwise. The fact that ds has a bit of a problem with lactose is all just grist to the mill.

Anyway, dh has bought me flowers today to make up for forgetting our anniversary, so I feel moderately guilty given I shouted at him last night (see lummox's thread for details).

Take care all! xx

so Trib - you think the Sleep Lady is good?

Ihaven't broached with Dh yet as he's out mon, tues and wed night and then in Japan next week.....so will talk to him when he gets back.

I had a hilarious (well a kinda you got to laugh) double put down the other night. Inspired by MN I bathed the two together. I get in with baby whilst dd gets undressed then I get out dress baby whilst she spashes about, then do her. All very well.....just as I got in she got a look on her face 'mummy I'm gonna poo' and out it came on the bathroom floor as I flounder out to put her on the toilet.....put baby in a towell to keep warm and avoid poo, stick gown on me to avoid freezing to death.....then have to keep toddler away from poo (fascinating) and showing to baby, stepping in by accident etc etc. Every night is different though!!

RHM, yup, two thumbs up for the sleep lady here. To put it frankly, if your dh is naffing off to Japan, why does he care what you do about getting sleep problems sorted out?!

Morning all,
Glad you got some flowers Trib - no more than you deserve.
RHM - poo is always a kind of rogue elephant in any situation I find You can bet your bottom dollar if I'm in a cafe bfing ds dd will suddenly need to do a poo and then the only loo will be occupied and I'll be dashing around with my bosoms out trying to hurry some poor devil out of the loo while everyone yells.....
Tea - shame you're so busy would like to hear about your sleep probs - and were you having a meet with the vicar to discuss christenings? or do you often meet up with the vicar???

Had a crazy day yesterday, dd got her fingers caught in a door in nursery, they tried to get hold of me but I didn't hear the moby over the baby yelling, so they asked dh to come over, he got a taxi from work, meanwhile I got the message and headed up there. 2 frazzled parents arrive to find a happy dd 'Why are you here, we're having storytime, I don't want to come home' Fingers fine etc etc 2 sheepish parents leave.....better safe than sorry I guess.
Later I pick her up asking the teacher how the fingers are ' Her fingers are fine but she's got a bump the size of a golf ball on her forehead, hasn't cried about it and can't remember how she did it' Bump is indeed huge, take small daughter home and hope for no more incidents....children ay?
Meanwhile I've perfected feeding ds in the night without properly waking up - I can walk from my room to his, feed and walk back still more or less asleep, it's great. The ccing to deal with the night feeds is on the horizon though - not looking forward to that at all.
Have good days all x

Katz, really glad to hear about DD2!!!

Trib, I love the reason behind your name. I did classics at Uni and loved it. Don?t feel too guilty about DH and if it meant you got given some flowers?.?.

RHM ? good luck for next week! Managing 2 on your own for a whole week definitely deserves a call to sleep lady and plenty of chocolate

Welshie, you make me smile. How lovely that you both get to the nursery panicking and she is already thinking, ?What do you want?!??. Bless her?

I?ve got DH off today (hence why I?m here now), with the in-laws over later. Oooh, and more excitingly, I?ve got a mini-facial booked at 11:30. I'm actually hoping for a mini-miracle - that i'm going to suddenly look amazing, rejuvinated and youthful again. This maternity life can be good fun?.lol??

morning mumsssss lol cant belive it william slept most the nite , woke 2 00 and 6 30 for feed fingers crossed here getting back to normality grrrrrrrr, i wish.

Trib thanks for your concern hunny, no the baby was very active just constant heart rate no dips, i though maybe baby was asleep, although they usualy only nap for 20 mins i thought , well thats what we were told about william.

Sis is back tommoro for scan so let s hope all is well.

LOL on the other hand my eldest boy asboustly lovely lad has bought a cream linen suit for this wedding which he wants to wear with blue tie and blue shirt, to be honest im speechless. Ive tld other sisters and they think its marvervalous I just didnt think he buy cream for winter wedding, but thats my boy always supprising me.

Ok its my third party tonite grrrrr, at my friends hose whom ive know since i was 12 years old, lol called her up to find that her mum ( who always wears thigh lenghth boots) which intrigued me lol will be there and er two other sisters so if i fall on my face lol they know me how embarrasing, lol will practice all day.

Katz how lovely that dd2 is ok im so pleased for you hugsss

Welshie how lovely you both turned up awww bless you.

RHM wow another poo watch lol you did really well managing two babes in the bath, lol takes us all out time to bath one lol.

Tea how lovely having your family there and make sure you bake some buns for the vicar lol.

opsss baby wake chat later xxxxx

trib - you definitely win most academic MN nickname. No sure tribpotmum sits quite so well. tribpotjuno?

EYM - glad more sleep is being had in your house.

Another pretty good night here as well. Good luck to all the others with sleep probs.

Hello to everyone else as well - sorry if this has become a bit of a thread for people with sleep problems. Hope those who've been lucky with the sleep thing (Bubb, Jonah and Lynny, I know this means you and maybe others as well) aren't getting too bored. When it's causing problems its a bit all consuming.

On a non sleepy note, ds has started to really laugh. Kind of like a cross between Sid James and a drain. That makes me laugh, so he laughs again. Soooo cute.

Ah, that's lovely about the laugh Lummox. It's nice to talk about the good bits as well as the bad so before I launch into another 'woe is me' message I will do the same. DS2 is such a flirt - at the doctors this morning all he wanted to do was stand up and smile at people. He charmed two little old ladies in less than a minute I was a bit embarrassed as he was supposed to be poorly...

My nickname is related to the football team I support I'm afraid, nothing motherly about it either. Trib, definitely most impressive nick-name award comes your way.

DS2 has got a nasty cough and cold and was up half the night, boiling hot and coughing a lot (hence the doctors visit this morning). Nothing to worry about according to the doctor but I do feel better for checking. Couldn't sleep for ages last night either, lay awake for hours waiting for the baby to wake up. Grrrrrrrrrrrr.

Great news about your DD Katz.

Red, is it your DD's birthday coming up? DS1 was three a couple of weeks ago and we just had a nice family day (DH took the day off work), went to the park, went to a farm, had cake, presents etc. He seemed to enjoy it.

Off to try and read a trashy mag and nod off with DS2 I think.

Ladies, just a quicky. We are staying in a hotel at the end of the month with my bro and his two little ones (3 & 1). The hotel doesn't do a baby listening service and they don't have baby monitors (peril of acquiring said children when they were no longer babies). They've decided to get them off to sleep in the room and then we'll have dinner together in the hotel restaurant (obviously!) - they'll pop back up every now and then to check on them.

Being a 'useless first-time mum' (possibly should abbreviate that to UFTM) I am of course paralysed with fear at the mere idea. We shall be taking our baby monitors, but don't really want to put ds down to sleep in the room with the two other little 'uns. I wonder if I should acquire a second cheapo set of baby monitors so that they can borrow them, on the grounds of leaving them at my mum's house for convenience ...

well, I 've just finished making 2 pass the parcels and all the party bags for sat. I know it seems mad doing it so early but will have so much to do on sat for the party!

yes my dd is 3 tmw (can't believe it!) I've got the day with her on my own as Dh can't justify a day off (what with illness then Japan next week). I'm going to do something fairly local just to celebrate it just us.

I've just zipped up to bf ds - don't you just love it when they make those little satisfied sounds??? btw the last 2 nights he has gone down around 8 and slept til 10 ...so have at least got him down even if he is keeping up the 2 hrly feeds......

btw I met a man in bluewater with a 7 week old baby. He told me that at 11pm he takes over and feeds the baby during the night!!!!! OMG. My Dh told me not to get any ideas.......

btw 2 if anyone wants a homopathic remedy for tiredness speak up and I 'll post it on here

Trib - I'd want baby monitors too even with a 3 and 1 year old! What a faff anyway, having to keep getting up from dinner and breaking off conversation to check the kids. Baby monitors at least mean you can relax a bit and go up when you hear a peep

trib - you're supposed to be having a nice relaxing evening - if you're going to worry the whole night away - buy the monitors....and don't call yourself useless - it's quite right that you feel how you do your brotther is on a different bit of the parenting 'journey' and you can't rush yourself there missus.

RHM - what's the name of your remedy? I wonder if it's the samething I've been given....it's supposed to make the smaller amount of sleep you get of a better quality - so you feel more rested on less, I've forgotten the name though.
Happy Birthday to your dd - I hope you have a lovely day together. Is she into princesses? Ours is obsessed with Aurora, Ariel, Briar Rose, Snow White and the whole menagerie.

I think with ds getting better now he's going back to his old routine of a late night feed and a middle of the night feed...fingers crossed.
Have good day's all - we're going to look at a potential school for dd - eeks

Morning mumsss hugs

we another party under my suspender belt lmaooooo it went really well and business was over £300 im amazed only 5 girls there, also booked three parties felt more relaxed, did wear my thigh length boots for my friends mum she was in hysterics.

William was abit unsettled, hubby finally got him down 9pm grrrrr but he slept till 3am and then 7am so not to bad, hubby said he was looking for me saying ma ma i know he does make these phonic sounds now aww bless.

ok will call my sis later as she has a scan today i hope everything is ok.

On the other hand finally having the coil put in today only took two months i think its digusting having to wait so long after just having a baby there exuse was staff shortage.

Mrs W awwww bless at your little boy what a charmer so is william, hope hes gets over his cold soon, william has been snuffly too, and hubby is full of cold.

RHM happy birthday to your little girl, have a lovely day im sure you will hugs.

Trib maybe its just me but I wouldnt leave little ones on their own full stop. If you feel camfortable with moniters then you go a head hunny, i think this comes from working with babies and toddlers its just me i think they always should be suppervised. lol thats why he my nursery nurse friends used to say ooooooo your going MRs Gishdaspos room the my students lmaoooo and im so lovely hi hitler .

have a lovely day mumssss xxxxx

eastyorksmum thanks for popping in on september thread and giving us all such a warm welcome.

just a quickie as off out in a min!

welsh - remedy is cocculus

Hi all,
Not read a thing so forgive me. I have to let you all know that I am still alive and dd2 has her first tooth!!!! Sprouted it at just short of 16weeks. This perhaps explains the constant 2 hr feeds we have been coping with over night and in fact she went for a 4 hour stretch last night too. She had her last jabs today thankfully so that is all over too. My dad and stepmum fly back today and dh is taking them to the airport today. We have had a wonderful visit with them culminating yesterday with a trip to see my friend who is out here at the moment with his Harrier squadron. We got the full guided tour even sitting inside and pressing buttons. My dad and step mum were quite chuffed. My friend is one of the pilots and so laid back he even let dd1 in there (on her daddy's lap). Right off to read some more and catch up with you all. The concise thread is brilliant BTW.

Morning all,

RHM - Happy birthday to your DD! Hope you guys have a nice time together.
The other day, My DD and I went out for girlie day out as I called. She has been acting up, and craving for attention, so I thought it would be good. I'm not sure it solve the behavioral problem,but we had lots of fun!

Trib - I second others. I would be such a basket case not being able to know what was going on with the baby, that Imight as well not be at the dinner table. But then, as you can see in many other threads at MN, there are loads of people that feel confortable with...
Oh,I think we should have a "wellcome party to the North" for you! Maybe the first or second week of dec. before holiday crazyness starts?!

Tea - hope you have a nice chritening day!

Hi to everybody else!

X-post!
Welcome back Coop!
wow, that's an early tooth! Hope that solves all the feeding/sleeping issues!

Trib - Silly question probably as I know ds has problems settling and sleeping because of his reflux but could you settle him in the carseat/pushchair/pram and just take him in the restaurant with you?? If not definately get monitors. I am not yet confident to leave mine without. Don't think you are crap first time mum either. You are fab so there. Got to run, both girls crying eek.

Afternoon ladies, just back from a very wet walk to the post office, I felt like a solider in a Vietnam war movie only pushing a pram.

Now just to be clear, there is no way I would leave my baby in a room with no baby monitor, in case some of you thought I would. No siree bob. However, I think you're right that I'll probably spend the whole evening worrying about my niece and nephew so I might just get an extra set and have done with it. (Mind you, I'll do that and my bro will probably decline to use them or something). EYM, I take your point but if you have to go and stay in a hotel, what can you do, short of all going to bed at 7 p.m.? What I'm particularly annoyed about is a friend has offered to let us stay with her and my bro won't consider it; he doesn't know her very well (we were all at school together although he 2 years below us) and he and my SIL are extremely private people, don't really 'do' meeting people they don't know. But obviously staying in a house would be a much better solution.

RHM, glad you're getting ds down into his cot at least, must make a big difference to your evenings!

My dh used to do the night feeds .. sigh. But sleep lady nixed that by saying his snoring was probably disturbing ds' sleep (god knows it disturbs mine) so he has been exiled to the living room and I have to sleep in with ds and do the feeds. All in all not sure why I'm so positive about the sleep lady on that basis As a result I am absolutely shattered, although probably no more so than the rest of you - and I at least can force dh to get up in the morning and take over for an hour or two.

Lua, I start back to work at the start of Dec, so probably something in late November would be better if that's workable?

Lummox, I like tribpotjuno, will keep that one in mind!

Jonah, hope you are feeling refreshed and radiant today!

Welshie, laughing at your dd and her antics. Hope she's okay today!

Coop, forgot to say congrats on the tooth! Will instruct ds he is lagging behind some of the other 22nd Junies.

Anyway, just to reiterate, it's my bro's children who will be sans baby monitor, definitely not mine! Bet I still end up going up to check on him a few times anyway though.

awww hi mummyhill hugssss you are welcome hunny, as you see we have first time mums and others, such as me william is my fourth baby. So we know how hard and tiring it is bringing home your new baby dont be a stranger hun xxxxx

Coops yayyy your back lovely to see you, wow a tooth I thought william was teething too, and hes nearly 13 weeks now omg.

Trib hunny i knew you didnt mean you, just my gishstapo head goes on, i mean i was wrong about the carry thing william loves his freestyler and of course its up to your brother how he deals with this matter hugs.

hubby home for dinner yayyyy xxxxxx

Hello

Frantic and frazzled here. Going away tomorrow ( to your homeland Welshie) so just a quickie cause the house is a tip!

Coop - Good to have you back!!

Lummox - Am aiming to go the whole 6 months breastfeeding until weaning (dd2 15 wks), watch this space...

Hair is falling out, but it doesnt even make a dent with my curls!

Hub _ While you're about it, can you see if you can do anything about the CFS presenters???? I'm so sick of Alan and that flipping "aren't I a hunk with Irish charm and a twinkle in me eye" Diarmud Gavin (sp).

Trib - No cows milk to drink before 1 year but other dairy products are allowed before then. Eggs are quite rich so I would leave those till way after 6 months.

Lynny- So sorry to hear about your poor little Jess!! Excema can be so debilitating. It's hard when you have to smother in creams and that steroid cream does a good job, but ouch! It makes the skin very weak eventually. Keep smiling, I'm sure she will be fine. have you though about sticking to milk until 6 months and hope that helps? Not sure what experts think...

I didn't swaddle dd2, she's in a grobag now.

Dd2 playing up at night for the last 2 nights. Am knackered.

Got to go .