Jan 09: New thread, new babies, new year...our tiny newborns turn two and are full of birthday cheer....

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Hope no one minds....I took an executive decision

Nice.

Where is Moose. This seems a bit long for her to be away. I saw her lurking on another thread a couple weeks ago toddler programs but just a couple of posts.

Oh no, what have I been thinking? I have just spent the last 2 hours reading back through the thread where I gave birth and it's obvious that I struggled through the first few weeks of N's babyhood, and it was total hell! There was me remembering it all as being quite easy, lots of pleasant co-sleeping and slumbering feeds... and somehow there was pat and lenni and 120 and hkz and dog and tink and others doing it all with a toddler already. How on earth am I going to cope?! Minor freak out now, not helped by lack of sleep.

and then tree came back after disappearing for first 2 weeks with the H-bomb and somehow managed to cope with colic and toddler... we all sounded sort of bewildered to be honest, although second/ third timers were much more confident.

and dog finally got her home birth - in one post you say 'so this will be the last time'...

It's very strange to read. I sound like I'm about 16 and am obviously completely clueless. Now I'm giving out bf advice left right and centre to all my friends with new babies .

Haven't caught up at all, sorry . But must try to get some sleep now. The internet is so stimulating and I need to read more books instead. Has anyone read 'the birth of love'? Amazing book to read just before giving birth to number 2, couldn't stop crying. I think you would like it hkz. Now reading 'freedom' jonathan franzen - loved the corrections and this looks every bit as good.

37 weeks today!

Stop with the reading MJ! You will be fine. Although, having said that, I've been voicing my concerns with my Mama ladies. I'm really blessed with DD as she is for the most part, pretty docile and easy going and we have a nice little routine going and I'm not sure how I'm going to cope, especially with DH's hours with a NB. I like change, but on my terms sort of thing. Babies seem to come with their own unrelenting ones.
37 weeks... are you starting to count down now. DD arrived at 37 weeks.

EEK!!! I'm 25 weeks and 5 days! That is the first time I've really check exactly how far along I am. Crazy. Oh god, we need to some stuff.

wow ladies not long

mj sure u will be fine

starting to introduce the potty let the fun commence

Wow, 37 weeks...that was quick Hope you are feeling ok MissJ. You will be fine with two...after a few weeks of lovely falling in love with DC2 and all over again with DC1 you will feel like there has always been 2! Will check ou tthe birth of love. I am so unbelievable loved up with DCs and DH at the moment, I cry at everything, am just one big ball of weeping and raging hormones!

Not long for you now GA. Does your ~DH get paternity leave from work? Or is it different in Canada?

Morning tink!

Off out to meet DH and the DCs for lunch down the road so better get my shit together. Happy friday and happy half term to all the teachers !

Big Whoopdy-woo for half term

It's finally here!

HKZ- Meant to say sorry about your Dad, you sound very together about it all considering you are a bag of hormones! I really worry about getting to an age where I don't enjoy anything it must be so rough. Hope the next few weeks go well.

MissJ- You were certainly not clueless with N, you always sounded chilled out and taking it all in your stride. TBH with two you just do a lot of cutting corners. there are days where it is complete madness and you feel like you are spinng about 30 plates all at once, but it pays off and the newborn stage is over pretty quickly which is a bit of a shame and a bit of a blessing!

Lol at Dog saying never again after I
You are right though, not sure how Tree coped with the H-bomb, us lesser mortals would have only just made it back to the thread about now, 2 years down the line!

GA- 25 weeks already for you! Can't believe how quickly other peoples pregnancies go. I remember feeling really great with Z until I was about 36 weeks and then the strain of big belly and toddler took it toll!

Tea- Sorry forgot you were near London too. Well they live in Archway, so not sure how far from Watford. I will try and work out what times we will be at the NH museum and then whoever wants to join us that would be great!

Right, DD has gone off to a disco (wtf?) and DH bathing Z. I would have a glass of to celebrate half term but have got a pupil coming in a bit for tutoring. Roll on 8pm!

DS was 17 months apart from DD and had colic, he cried screamed almost constantly for the first 10 weeks. It was hard but it was over so quickly in some ways too. I worked hard to get him into a nap/ feed routine and flew by the seat of my pants basically It was all fine really. Hormones made me one big ball of tears or shoutiness LOL but it wasn't long and I couldn't imagine having only 1 child and definitely not now. Stop reading MissJ stuff that'll scare you. You will be fine. It's your second child x

Not sure where Archway is tbh Pat I just go down the M1 a few junctions and I'm in London from here. I can get to the Natural History Museum by car in 45 mins. Which I've done a few times as I'm lazy and cannot be bothered with trains/ tubes

DS is knocking on the bedroom door again, so I better go...

Ok.. so DD definitely gets unsettled on full moon nights. Last night she got up three times, came into our bedroom wanting to climb in. Twice DH shuffled her back, I did once than on the fourth time, she just called out "Mummy" so I went and got her and DH moved to the couch. No sense in spending the night running back and forth. She laid in bed next to me patting my face and brushing back my hair until she finally drifted off to sleep, and we all slept in, thank goodness. I've been keeping track of when she does this and it is always on full moon nights. Crazy.

DH came home last night with a beautiful bouquet of flowers and tickets to La Boheme. It will be our first night out without DD. I know! Can't wait.

DH does get 6 weeks paternity leave but will only be taking two. He says we can't afford it nor can the restaurant be without him that long... I'm thinking the latter is more likely the case inasmuch as he cited the former as being the main reason. Whatever, I'll be at the gallery a lot then too and the restaurant is right around the corner so guess where DD, NB and me will be for lunch lots. lol

Do you think her bedroom is too bright from the moon?

Evening
Hv a sore throat
Hv been sitting dd2 on potty throughout day no
Wee yet
Having gd day

Oh no... the moon is on the other side of the condo and at the last flat, she didn't have a window. I always get my period, (when I'm not knocked up ) during the full moon or within a day of either side of it. There are statistics that show more domestic violence happens around a full moon and more emergency visits due to accidents.

Poor DD and I woke up not feeling so great this morning. We've been laying around the couch all morning. Its so nice and sunny out too but just can't muster the energy. She was perfectly fine last night. Same here. Bugs.

DD wanted to go to bed in knickers tonight, I said yes and put a potty in her room and showed her where it was in case she wanted to go in the night. She didn't drink anything after 6pm. Should I wake her on the way to bed and make her go or just leave it? She shares a room with her brother and I am aware that if she cries at being woken it'll wake DS

You should get her some of the incontinence pads for under her sheets. Not sure about waking her. Maybe not. If she starts maybe she'll wake and go on the potty herself. I'd do the wait and see. By now though, you've probably sorted it as its the wee hours of the morning... no pun intended.

good luck tea

how did it go tea?

I tried waking her on my way to bed and she wouldn't wake but DS started to stir, so I gave up but an hour later she came in my room with wet knickers So I should have tried harder to wake her

When we lifted DD, we literally picked her up asleep and plonked her on the loo. Didn't work though.. we made her go for a wee before bed, lifted her at 10.30 and she wet at 12. Unbelievable! Gone back to nappies now. H is 2 and is mainly dry at night (still put the pull up on).

Good luck, you are more woman than me

Hi all.

i'm knackered

We tried the waking thing with dd1 Tea. All that happened was she either did a wee or didn't, but still did another in a few hours. She just hadn't the right hormones. She didn't night train until 5, but has never wet the bed since decidig to not wear a night nappy.

Hope all are well. Can't believe how the thread pregnancies are zooming by .
Hope the amby proving usefull HKZ?

Was asking my friend about it and she said that she puts her LO on the toilet before they go to bed, even though she's half asleep, but push on her belly just above the navel and that makes her go cause she is relaxed and the pressure gets it started.

RE: Night lifting I would advise against it as my sister did this with my nephew and had to carry on doing it until he was 6.5! it was like she had trained him to wee at 10.30pm adn he was going to do it regardless

I never did it with DD and she was night trained when she was about 2.5, when I say night trained she was biologically ready as her pull-ups were dry for weeks on end and she asked not to wear them. We had one wet bed when she was ill and that is it in 2 years. I do recommend the Hippychick undersheet thingy for peace of mind.
She doesn't drink a lot before bed btw, has a drink with dinner at 6pm and then takes a small cup of water up with her. Her last wee is usually just before her story at 7.15pm. I wouldn't deny her a drink if she wanted it but she just doesn't seem thirsty in the evenings so I guess that has helped.

On another note I am having no inkling that Z is anywhere near potty training. He still sits on the toilet before the bath and pokes his willy, pretending to wee, but he has done that for about 6 months and never so much as a drop. He just thinks its funny!
Cannot believe how different they all are as DD was well out of nappies in the day by his age. However I am so willing to just wait until he is ready verbally and emotionally as its so much easier then and I am guessing this is later with most boys based on most of my friend's DS's.

P.s He is still in a cot, is he the only one not in a bed? I just can't be arsed to change his cotbed at the moment, he isn't fussed and hasn't attempted an escape as yet. He seems to love his cot but DH says I'm treating him like a baby as he is my last (there may be an element of truth in that)

pat - c not remotely inclined to abandon her nappy for the potty, and will be in the cot for as long as we can keep her there, since i don't know how we would manage to get her to go to bed if she could get out of it...

i am at that crazed end of cycle moment, the noting every twinge, so won't bore you all with my obsessing - hope all well with you all

DD is in a nappy tonight, she wanted to wear knickers again but I said that as she had an accident the night before, maybe a nappy was a better idea, she also wanted to take a drink to bed, so I said she'd have to wear a nappy if she wanted a drink with her. So she complied. She already has a plastic mattress protector luckily. Stripey DD is 3 and a half btw

DS moved into a bed only because he learnt how to climb out of the cot. He does get out of bed twice a night usually at about 10.30pm ish and at about 3am. I just put him back and rub his back for a short while. He wants to come into mine for cuddles. I didn't see that coming, as I've never co sleept with him at all. But since he moved to a bed and realised he could move about at night he can try and sneak into mine instead for a "hug" as he calls it. He also demanded "hot milk!" the other night in the midle of the night I said "no sweetheart, but you can have some water if thirsty". To which he shouted at me but I'm not going back to milk drinks in the night now, when he's been so good for so long.

Yes DS sits on the potty and talks about wee's and fiddles with his willy but never does anything yet either.

A couple of friends here LO's are still in their cribs. Not that big of a deal if they're not trying to climb out and are content. We just changed at 20 months cause on holidays, DD slept in beds the whole time so we thought it was a good transition time and easy. She does the whole potty thing with all her dollies and stuffed animals, but not to interested in herself. She gets the wet wipes to wipe all their butts too and then says, 'dirty, dirty dirty' and throws them in the garbage. I'm dreading the hassle TBH once the second comes as she'll likely be in full swing of potty training by then.

Making marmalade today. I still have loads of preserves and frozen fruit that I though for sure I would have gone through by now, but only the blueberries are gone.