IS THERE A SEPT 2005 CLUB YET?

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Hi all fellow September mums. If I'm duplicating another thread please tell me. If not, would love to hear how everyone is getting on.
Tom is a week old today. All well - though has a slightly infected cord stump so am going to GP today.
I'm still madly hormonal, could burst into tears whenever I think about the impact all this has on my lovely dd (2y2m).

Interested in your comments re bottle feeding ebm, beatie. Gabrielle is now 2.5 weeks. With DS he had a bottle of ebm at about 10.30 which DH gave him so I could get to bed. Don't want to satrt to early but know others who seem to miss the window of opportunity and really struggled later on. Anyone else doing this and what age did they start? Gina Ford says it must be started no later than 2 weeks but don't want to affect bf which is going well.

Ist day without Dh as he's now back at work. It's a bit easier as DS is at nursery but it's a 10min drive away (conventient when working as on my way into the city)and didn't manage to get a very good feed in G before it was time to leave as otherwise Ds would have missed breakfast there. Hectic hectic. At least I can relax til it's time to pick him up and then tomorrow I have both....arrgh

Hugs to Ll - agree with other comments. Also think you are doing the right thing re sleeping in moses basket. I have a couple of friends who never founght those battles early on and still have very disturbed nights (and cranky kids) two yrs on!

Take care!

hello all - don't want to diet but would like to fit my clothes!! before preg was around 58kgs - now 73 kgs - at heaviest just before birth was 88 kgs!! Can fit into one stretchy skirt - haven't tried trousers but no there is no chance!! - still in maternity - the clothes I grew out of now fit!! My size 5 isabella olvier skirt is too big am thinking of getting a smaller one as so comfortable & I like the long length. The way I lost the flab with my other 3 kids was by bf on demand & the general run around! hope this works this time as well.

LadyL best wishes to you. It's not your fault! make sure your dh can understand this. Never any excuse for violence. xxx

hello all - don't want to diet but would like to fit my clothes!! before preg was around 58kgs - now 73 kgs - at heaviest just before birth was 88 kgs!! Can fit into one stretchy skirt - haven't tried trousers but no there is no chance!! - still in maternity - the clothes I grew out of now fit!! My size 5 isabella olvier skirt is too big am thinking of getting a smaller one as so comfortable & I like the long length. The way I lost the flab with my other 3 kids was by bf on demand & the general run around! hope this works this time as well.

LadyL best wishes to you. It's not your fault! make sure your dh can understand this. Never any excuse for violence. xxx

hello all - don't want to diet but would like to fit my clothes!! before preg was around 58kgs - now 73 kgs - at heaviest just before birth was 88 kgs!! Can fit into one stretchy skirt - haven't tried trousers but no there is no chance!! - still in maternity - the clothes I grew out of now fit!! My size 5 isabella olvier skirt is too big am thinking of getting a smaller one as so comfortable & I like the long length. The way I lost the flab with my other 3 kids was by bf on demand & the general run around! hope this works this time as well.

LadyL best wishes to you. It's not your fault! make sure your dh can understand this. Never any excuse for violence. xxx

my dps first day back at work today too things are going well so far i just miss having him here, managed to get up bathed and dressed n dd1 was ready for school in plenty of time also both dd's fed before 8.30. it helped that jess slept most of the night (for the first time ever) she went down at 10.30pm only woke up for one feed at 2.40am and has been awake from 7am to 11.15am so she's having her nap now and ill take her for a walk after her next feed. i've been reading the gina ford book and have to say though it seems like a good idea it all seems complicated ill stick to the feeding times but let her sleep when she wants to start with and see how it goes. anyone got any advice on the gina thing?

Also on the weight front i think the jeans i bought are too big but ive worn them so cant take them back, though they fit when im sat down they are falling off when i walk about - cant win ill have to sew some elastic into the waist and hope for the best.....doh!

Bubbles
Yes please to lasagne recipe.

I'm dreading being weighed!

Is anyone else really worried abou bird flu? I know there is nothing can be done - but my little family are fantastic and anything to threaten that worries me! PS dh says I have old bird flu!!

Think I'll surf the net again for face masks and Tamiflu drugs - I'm I paranoid or hormonal /both??!!???

Back after a bit of a break!
Worried about RZ - hope we hear soon.
Not much to report here - life getting back to some sort of routine, although DD very unsettled last night. She's a sweetie during the day - very easy, but has a bit of a cold so gets bunged up at night. May try raising one end of the crib tonight.
LadyL - thinking of you. I do think that first babies put a massive strain on a relationship - I keep thinking 'thank goodness this isn't my first and I can see that you get through it in the end'. I echo what everyone else says though - never any excuse for violence. I think sleeping in the moses basket is good as your first intention, mainly because I think babies need to stretch out and lie flat - I personally wouldn't worry from a bad habits point of view at this age - both ds1 and ds2 spent more time in bed with us than in their cots at this age, and they have never had any issues with going to bed from about 6 months. Plenty of time for routine later!
Whoops, going to be late for school pick-up, better go.....

I think I have piles. How unattractive.

Suppose I should get some Preparation H.

Back to doing useful tasks (why do I seem to spend at least half of my life stacking and unstacking the dishwasher?)

sorry bubbles.... he's fantastic with him...stayed with him this weekend...was so good, felt amazing, i got the best nights sleep ever, mike wanted to change every nappy, shame i dont live there lol.

beatie, forgot to say have you tried other bottles. i used the avent ones with DS but friends who had difficulty with going onto bottles recommendedthe tommy tippie ones (with the knobbley bit on the teat0 or Dr brown's. May be worth a try

Hiya,
Havent been around recently, ds1 (19months old) been playing up a bit, not with our dd (3weeks), but hes in the process of not having his nap in the day, so at about 4pm, hes absolutly shattered.
Ive been feeling really teary recently, not about my ds/dd or my dh, but about myself etc. Ive been able to talk to the Dr about it all (had a pritty awful labour which i do feel guilty about), and he did explain to me that many women feel the same way after a horrendous birth etc. Once i talked to him about it all, i felt alot better. He wants to see me in a couple of weeks to see how i am feeling etc. I am still teary for no apparant reason, i can burst into tears for about 10minutes etc, then feel totally fine after it!! Is it still hormones? Do any of you feel the same way?
Thx

Has anyone done anything about contraception yet?!!! . I always wanted 4 kids but dh is adamant he wants to stop at 3. Having said that, we resumed 'relations' when I was about 2-3 weeks postpartum and am now starting to try and get my head around what method of contraception we should go for. Am not keen on going back on the pill as was on it for 10 years. Would prefer to steer away from chemicals really so am thinking about the coil (not the mirena one). What does anyone else think?
Things are getting better with sleep - dd2 is sleeping for around 5-6 hours at night so starting to feel a bit more human although still teary and down about myself and about this being my last baby and living in a wreck of a house and basically not feeling cherished by dh....

have had a good sob today, feel as though i am turning into an ogre. david was crying and i left him in his car seat whilst i went to heat a bottle for him, when i returned to the room dd was rocking him way to hard and i hit the roof and sent her to her room for 10mins and sat here crying whilst feeding david. just feel as though all i ever do is shout at her to leave the baby alone.

David is constantly hungry and trying to keep up is killing me. need sleep/ 5mins quiet.

mummyhill - hope you're ok xxx sleep isn't possible for me at the moment as ds is awake most of the night. feel so tired I could be sick sometimes. take it easy on yourself, have some treats for yourself xxx

Hello All

Sorry to hear how teary everyone's feeling, I guess I tend not to get the hormone rush in that way so don't really know how it feels - mummyhill as Milward says, do be easy on yourself, you can't be omnipresent, and, though I don't have another little one to take care of, I could see how DIFFICULT it would be when I looked after DSs Ds (aged 2)... {{{HUGS}}}

For those on a mission to lose weight, didn't do as well as I hoped today - still managed to attack the brie (in a big way) now I'm not preg and allowed soft cheese also indulged in choccy bikkies that a friend brought round to kill time over a cuppa whilst her dd was at ballet.. honestly, WHO needs friends like that!?!?

Beatie must thank you for recommending the breastfeeding 'shells' - it's all going very well here on the breastfeeding front Not getting through SO many breastpads now ... still haven't found any Unichem ones though, but the Johnson and Johnson ones ARE much better than the Avent ones so Thank - you whoever it was who recommended those too...

Did someone mention sex??? It might sound like a good idea in theory but I still don't feel attractive enough to go there - also think it'd be a bit on the uncomfortable side, AND I'm still working on the muscle tone of the nether regions too, I'm fearing dp might be totally disappointed with the whole experience

SO... all of those breastfeeding, does anyone feel uncomfortable about feeding in public? How do you tackle this? and where's the weirdest place you've had to b/f so far?

Me - I find it a very intimidating experience - especially if I'm on my own, I just bluster my way through and ignore the over-interested glances it attracts - had to stop mid-walk in the park on Sunday to feed - felt very exposed on a bench in a highly populated park with the whole of the local community strolling past (or so it seemed!!!) I'd just rather put myself through that than let Conrad reach decibels of an 'anti-social/you must be torturing that baby' volume!

Hope everyone's having a good night

xxx

Why is everyone on a mission to lose weight? It can take up to two years to regain your figure, if you are breast feeding you may not loose the weight till you stop as you are supposed to eating a few extra calories anyway. Celebrity mums need shooting for giving many the impresson that it is good or even desirable to get back to our pre pregnancy size as soon as possible. I need to loose 4 stone excess that I was carrying round pre pregnancy thanks to my thyroid problems and intend to start exercising once I have been for my 6 week check to try for a bit of tonning however am feeling realistic and don't want to start dieting till I have finished expressing to feed david.

Managed a five hour sleep last night then back to every 2 hours so feeling a little better this morning. Must go and sterilise all the breast pump equipment and bottles before david wakes up and natalie starts being daft.

MUMMYHILL - Glad you're feeling a little better today

On the desire to lose weight, for me, it's just that I FEEL so unattractive - I'm not planning to diet, just keep to healthy options and away from fatty foods (like brie and chocolate biscuits!!)

My metabolism doesn't respond to dieting very well, I was anorexic in my 20s and since recovering, if I don't eat enough I quickly feel faint and nauseous as blood sugar levels drop... I'm intending to keep up with the walking that I've started, I found power walking very energising before I became pregnant and as soon as I feel my abs and pelvic muscles can take it I'll up the pace and effort

I really don't like the excess wobbly jelly around my middle and want to tone it all up

mummyhill - sorry to hear you've been feeling down. This is clearly a stressful time for everyone. Try not to feel guilty for shouting at your other child, you are doing the best job you can. Would your hubby be able to take the kids for a couple of hours and give you a bit of you-time?

Cabe - I have had an eating disorder in the past as well, and am struggling a bit with the idea of being a size 16 (as opposed to my normal size 12).

Things are not really better here in the sitation of headlock with DH. He won't even answer the phone to speak to me, so I don't see how we can resolve this. Now social services are involved, which is not great either. Just a social worker who wants to help, but a bit worrying nonetheless. We are only commuinicating by email at the moment, which is a start I suppose, but very slow-going, especially since he thinks the whole thing is/was my fault.

LL - I'm sorry things aren't any better and DH is being a stubborn pig. You have to think of yourself and your baby - he should also be doing the same. At least you are communicating. Sometimes written communication is better to start with anyway - since you can say what needs to be said uninterrupted.

Cabe - I'm pleased you like the breast shells. Makes you realise how much milk is 'wasted' when it's absorbed by the breast pads. Have you done what I've done and bent over when the shell is too full. Ooops

I'm finding breastfeeding in public more tricky this time round. I was with DH in a tea room two weeks ago and I could not do it. The thing is a young baby attracts a lot of attention and I was aware of all these little old ladies watching me - cooing over the baby. I did not feel like I could then get my breast out. I managed to do it in an Open Air museum last Saturday - sat on a picnic bench.

Alice makes it difficult for me though as she latches on, waits for the let-down, then comes off again for what seems like a few minutes. Perhaps she likes having milk squirted in her face but I don't like the wet patch I end up with on my jeans and I don't like the idea of strangers seeing my exposed breast showering out milk Which is the reason I have not taken DD1 to any toddler groups yet.

Emotionally I feel OK. I have a very supportive DH (although we've still had plenty of cross words over the past 4 weeks) and most days I don't feel tired. Sometimes I feel overwhelmed by how much there is to do with two children. I certainly have much less patience with dd1 and I hate myself for it. I really do. She's being so sweet with Alice. I ought not to be such an ogre.

As for losing weight.... I know what you are saying Mummyhill. Celebs do make it seem like there is an immediate need to shed the extra pregnancy pounds. As you point out, people need to be careful about dieting when they are breastfeeding and also, doing the wrong type of exercise too soon after giving birth could be dangerous.

With dd1 I went overboard with eating and put on more weight when breastfeeding, after having the baby. This time I want to make sure that I consume my extra calories from healthier sources, like fruit, nuts, wholegrain bread. I don't intend to start exercising until after Christmas although I have just found out about an ante/post-natal aquacise class which takes place in the evening so, when Alice is 6 weeks old (and if she'll take a bottle of ebm), I intend to go to that.

SEX!? My lochia hasn't stopped yet.

Sallie - I'm probably going to go for a coil too. I need to look into it before my 6 week post-natal appt. There was a point during this pregnancy when I said I would get sterelized once I had this baby. DH would love more than 2 but I am happy with two. At the moment though, I think biology is playing tricks with me and making me feel so sad this is my last baby. I'm not ready to say I am 100% done having children but I am pretty sure the heartfelt desire to have another one will fade in time. My head is definitely saying two is enough!

ladyl - don't ne intimidated by your dh - he needs to understand what he did so he can move forward& apologise to you. best wishes here xxx
mummyhill - pleased you sound happier. 2yrs to regain figure!! - been preg &/or bf most of the time since 97!! - explains alot

for bf in public - I just do it where ever & when ever. People are too busy to notice & my baby is more important to me than their opinions. If anyone was to negatively comment I'd just ignore them. Once you've bf in public a few times it just becomes second nature.

Yep... done that Beatie, bent down to fish clean nappies out of the dryer - as usual in a bit of a hurry - ended up having to change my top half completely I'd forgotten to take it out of my bra from last feed!

Mind you if it hadn't happened I'd have happily gone out with shell in situ

I feed Alice anywhere she needs it. Haven't had any comments yet and probably would ignore them anyway.

The reason I want to lose some weight is so I fit some clothes. I have lots of nice clothes and they feel sad hanging up in the wardrobe.

Currently have both children asleep (one in cot, one in chair) . Suppose I should do something productive with my time.

DH going out for dinner with a friend tonight. I am especially as I had to put Benjamin to bed on my own (except for Alice) and I would just love to have dinner with no children around. Oh well.

I have bought some condoms, but we haven't used them yet. Am also thinking about the coil, used the mini-pill after DS was born and that just reduced my sex drive to zero. Or possibly even negative.