IS THERE A SEPT 2005 CLUB YET?

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Hi all fellow September mums. If I'm duplicating another thread please tell me. If not, would love to hear how everyone is getting on.
Tom is a week old today. All well - though has a slightly infected cord stump so am going to GP today.
I'm still madly hormonal, could burst into tears whenever I think about the impact all this has on my lovely dd (2y2m).

Morning

Feeling fairly low still. HV comming out today and a friend is supposed to be comming to visit but I won't hold my breath as she has let me down in the past. I may not be rushing arround doing the nursery run but half term is turning into bloody hard work.

CONGRATULATIONS STM.

LadyL Glad you have managed to resolve things.

Kiwikate - Glad DH is feeling better and that you managed to get some sleep. DH's idea re the gagrage seems ideal.

Milward I wouldn't call myself an expert as I am still learning new things about my condition every day. Hope you get good blood est results and they can start reducing your dosage with a view to being A OK in 6 months time as it must be really difficult juggling your meds.

Redhelen - If the thyroid problem is pregnancy related a short course of throxine is used to correct it and can often be stopped between 6 and 12 months after giving birth. However yes it can be hereditary. My great gran and two of her daughters had problems two with overactive thyroids and on with an underactive. Overactive is usually treated with iodine but can then become underactive as the iodine does too good a job. Underactive is treated with thyroxine which has to be taken for the rest of your life. On a plus note you get free prescriptions. If you have any questions etc please feel free to CAT me.

Ohh and Kiwikate sorry to here you are being irritated by DH but can I borrow him for a day? Need some industrial tidying and cleaning done here.

Mummyhill - but you are the expert !!!

I hope that your day goes ok - I understand how tough having all the kids at home can be. Try to find a moment or treat for yourself in the day xxx

My ds hardly slep last night. Have bolstered myself up with a coffee & choc for the day! My dd is on her schooltrip so am organising a photo letter for her - I just fixed the printer for this! Have to take in some dry cleaning as well before pick up the other dds. Ds is sleeping as he's so tired out!!! Plus raining loads - forgot my umbrella this morning so had a lovely walk to dd school from the car - wet through again

mummyhill & Milward - thanks thats really helpful advise - I feel less worried now. MH Sorry your feeling down today - hope the hv can offer some help.

I had my second bad night with DD - just one 4 hour sleep (sorry Kiwikate that probabaly sounds bliss to you) but she was sleeping for 4 hours then 3 - so feeling headachey! going to take Rachel to met work mates today!!! Actually statting to think I might return to work - after being determined to be a stay at home mum this time!!! - may be I feel I'm failing the probation period in this new job!!(and the new boss hates me!!) probabaly feel better tomorrow!!!

Hello, hello, hello all!
Sorry haven't been around for a while - DH decided to spend paternity leave fiddling with the computer. Funny, if I'd spent the last 2 weeks on mumsnet, he'd have something to say about it! Now he's back at work I'm free to surf, well as much as 2 children under 2 will allow! Have spent ages catching up. It's a good job all us mums are too busy to post otherwise I could have been catching up for days!
Brace yourselves - this could be a long one - if I miss anyone out it's only because I haven't got time or my poor knackered brain can't cope!
First and foremost - OMG STM!!!!! CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND DF (Dear Fiance). You do realise that we will all be expecting to be bridesmaids since we've been there from the start. Very happy for you both (all three!).
Mummyhill - hope you are feeling a bit brighter and dh is helping out a bit more. Soundslike a lot of our dh/dps could be doing with a kick up the bum. I suffered with depression BEFORE DD1 was born and really found it helpful talking to a counsellor. helped to put everything in perspective. Could you hv refer you if your gp won't? Failing that, you know we're all here if you need a chat.
Ladyl - glad things worked out with dh - good for you for getting out. Apalled by his behaviour. hopefully he's realised what he could have lost.
Bubbles - DD1 suffered with a sticky eye until the day after her christening at 4 months. DM jokes that the devil was washed out of her eye!?? Used cooled boiled water and also tried antib drops prescribed by gp. However the specialist who swa her for a heart murmur told us to stop these. never heard about the bm though. I actually thought that it could have been an over enthusiastic squirt that hit her in the eye and caused the problem in the first place!! DD2 currently got a bit of a sticky eye, too.
Milward - sorry to hear you've been suffering from mastitis - sounds pretty painful. Never suffered from it myself 9touch wood veneer) but it is something that I worry about. Hope you're feeling better.
Big hugs to all with sleep deprivation. esp those with toddlers/ other children to look after. DD1 at nursery yesterday and today so tomorrow will be the big test - first day alone with both. I knowi've been a bit impatient with DD1 who has generally been very good with DD2, if somewhat overenthusiastic(!). Determined will not lose it with her tomorrow. DD2 generally only waking once in the night but then is wide awake and so is taking a couple of hours to settle again. So why am I on MN when I should be sleeping?????????
KF - DH used to be very houseproud too(BC). Took a good while for him to let things go a bit. If you think DH is bad now, wait until stayput baby turns into mad wrecktheplace toddler then he really will have something to worry about. DH's face used to be a picture every day when he came home from work and the house was wrecked!! Had to laugh at him!
HV has just phoned. How miserable did she sound?? She was supposed to come tomorrow pm for first visit for dd2 but i was planning to go ut so have asked to change appt. She's coming on fri am instead and will do DD1's 18month (even though she's 21months!) check as well. I remember her from DD1s visits. She teally is a waste of space and (can't remember who mentioned it here) only seems to be filling in the paperwork.
PC- sorry both your little ones have been suffering from chickenpox. DS's two sons (3 yrs and 9 mpnths) have both had it though 3 weeks apart so am amazed that DD1 hasescaped. Wouldn't mind her getting it but don't think it's fair on the tiny ones getting it - you can't give them piriton or anything fot the itch. Hope Alice not suffering too much.
Think that's enough for now, except to say that i know anyone who hears anything about RZ will let us all know - very worried about her and baby RZ.
Sure there was more I meant to say - sorry if i've omitted anything important. Sure brain has turned in to breast milk mush!
Love to all baby septemberers xxx
Please forgive any typos - am too tired to preview!

Thanks for all the congrats

Reading through posts thinking that one day i might regret not staying single!!

How much are our little ones supposed to be gaining (on average) in a week. I only ask as i got Noah weighed yesterday. He was 22days old, weighed 8lb 3oz at birth and yesterday weighed 10lb 7oz...seems alot to me. He was weighed 10days previous and was 8lb 13oz that 22oz in 10days (if my sums are right)Maybe i've got too much champagne in my tits!

Glad you're back JM was wandering where you'd got to. Hope tomorrow goes well for you.

Kiwikate, glad to here your mum is a blessing and that your DH actually wants her to move in...not sure all men feel like that about their MIL's

Cabe - just a quick question, if you dont mind....how do you find studying at home and going to lectures with a little one? i only ask as am looking to apply for my nurse training, if i move in with DF it will be really good just not sure how i'll cope. I think they have a creche on site but need to look into it.

How was hv Mummyhill - any use?

Just went for tyhroid blood test & took Rachel to met work mates. I asked how they were without me - they all said yeah fine! My assistant then helped me to the car with Rachel - and was almost in tear with how awful the boss has been to her - felt really sorry for her! Normally I would deal with the boss and his hissy fits - but now she gets them direct & is not experienced enough not to take them personally or stand up to them

Perhaps, if I'm going back to work I should look for a new job - a marketing manager in a private school would be perfect - to use my skills and get holidays off!! - but these are as rare as rhs!

Its cake time!!!!!!! & and I must sort Rachels clothes - remove the newborn clothes from her wardrobe and replace with 0-3 - feel sure she is longer today than yesterday!!!

STM - don't worry at all as Noah is growing - sounds a good weight gain to me - and even if they do get a little chubby - they lose it when they walk/run!!

Hi STM

Tom was 7 14 at birth. 84 at 7 days. 10 2 at 22 days. 11 5 at 46 days. Started off on 50th centile. Shot up to75th and is now slightly under 75th.

Am a little upset as saw hv today and she thinks he has a tongue tie. Said was amazed that he was managing to feed, but thought the screaming and head shaking while feeding might be the result of the tongue tie. Feel really sorry for the little lad as it must be frustrating having to work that extra bit harder to feed.

Hello everyone.

I am tired - but have sone peace now as DS is in bed . Alice and I are having a girls' night in as DH is at a trustees' meeting for a charity he's a trustee of.

Living room is very messy as DS emptied all the books off his bookshelf in there. Plus some other books. But he was enjoying "reading" them .

Alice is still spotty but not much more than yesterday so hopefully7 won't be spotty for too long. She has been pooing like a mad thing today; there have been 6 so far but judging by the aroma beginning to hit my nostrils it will soon be 7.

LadyL - realy pleased to hear things are better with you .

quick post as not got much time, and in deperate need of advice, everything had been going well but jess seems to be crying for no reason (i mean shes fine n then for no reason she starts screaming after a few mins i can console her but then she starts again - has only been like this today was fine before today) i dont understand i've given her infacol shes also gone from drinking 6oz straight to only eating 3oz - i dont understand whats happened, i thought it was wind but i dont know. when i try and feed her she shakes her head and screams but if i keep the bottle there she will suck for a minute and then starts screaming again. Anyone any ideas?

Ooohhhh, JM, bridesmaids, what a brilliant idea! Do you think STM will let us wear peach tafetta??? Or maybe lemon...

Hmmm... it does sound rather like wind to me.Almost as if she wants a comfort suck rather than actual food, which might make her tummy sore. Tom does this with me, particularly the headshaking, when he's troubled. He gets spasms which come maybe every 10 mins or so until he falls into a sleep. How old is she now? Must go - pizza has arrived. Hope she settles soon.

Kelli - is she vomiting much? Could it be reflux? I watched the Baby Whisperer today, and it was about a baby with reflux. She suggested swaddling him to help calm him down when he screamed. Also, don't pat on the back to wind, instead use upward strokes on baby's back on left side, with baby over your shouder, arms hanging down your back. And don't let baby lie down flat - she put a pillow under the changing mat to elevate his head when changing nappy, used a seat in the bath to keep him more upright, sat him in a bouncy chair when awake, and had a special mattress in his cot that was angled at 45 degrees (also had a harness thing to keep him on the mattress) - imagine you could create a similar effect by putting a phone book under each leg of the head end of the cot, and putting some pillows under the mattress at the head end.

Of course, if it's not reflux or wind related, none of this may be any help...

Evening All...

STM or should I put TM! My course is only 6 contact hours a week - the rest of the time we're supposed to be reading/researching independently... this means that I only need Conrad looked after over Wednesdays and Thursday morning - DP does this for me at the moment and if I need to go on campus for library or photocopying I just take bubs with me...

As for the independent study it's really difficult (ney impossible!!) to focus at home with such a young baby, it's ok if I really enjoy the module but anything a bit more taxing gets pushed to the back of the pile
(oh and talking piles, I think i've got them too if that's what you meant by 'farmer giles' Redhelen

There's a nursery at Warwick which prioritises Students children and they accept babes from 4 months - I'm going to do a recce next week to see what it's like - I'll go unannounced so they won't have time to put a 'face' on

Just expressing now so Conrad can feed tomorrow

Had hilarious morning with DD, trying to get perfect footprints from Conrad for the thankyou cards I'm making - wiggley wiggley baby and blue paint!!! Only just made it to Bumps and Babies and that didn't start till 2pm!

Oh your poor little Tom Pooka has your HV suggested anything - am I right in thinking this is the condition when the linking tissue under babys tongue is too tight?

Right, one last pump and I'm off to bed... Sleep well all x

Yes Cabe - the frenellum is tauter than it should be apparently. The weird thing is that dh, bil, fil and both nephews also have it to varying degrees. I think it is only seen to be a problem if it effects breastfeeding, and none of those effected in dh's family were. Tom is, and is doing fine, according to the hv who hasn't suggested it being cut, since he's gaining weight. But it can be a battle to get him comfortable. Think will ask the doctor at his check up next week and see if there's an alternative as wont be giving up breastfeeding.

Cabe - turns out I haven't got piles but a fisure (spelling probably wrong) should sort itself out! sexy!

Had a better nights sleep! off for a bath, then making bottles up, tidy up, dress son (takes too long as he will only wear what he wants to wear!) and across the road to friends house for 10.30!

Rachel having trapped wind problems - tried everything! -Infocol still seems best but still get a two hour grizzle every day - tossing head, pulling legs up etc. Any ideas??

redhelen & kelli - the only thing that worked for ds's wind was Woodwards Gripwater (be aware that other brands may contain alcohol). If infocol works for you, it might be worth alternating with gripewater - I have heard that that can make both more effective. Also we found a chemist who made his own gripewater, and included some ginger (very good for tummy complaints). That was here in New Zealand, but you might like to look around in your area. The chemist's gripewater was especially effective when ds was extremely windy/unhappy/yelling.

kiwifruit - I've also heard of keeping baby at an angle - as you point out, the pillow or whatever you use to elavate baby should be UNDER THE COT or UNDER THE COT MATRESS. A pair of twins tragically died in New Zealand, when their well-meaning mum lay them with their shoulders on an adult pillow (so they were lying at an angle to help them breath as they had stuffy noses). They slipped down in the night, so that only their heads were on the pillow. This put their necks at an angle, and they both suffocated (apparently, the angle of the neck blocked off their wind pipes). Sorry to tell such a tragic tale here - just want to be sure that no one else makes the same mistake.

BTW - I love this thread. Whenever I disagree with someone on another thread they get all snotty. Why ask the question if they don't want to know what other people do with their kids? Just because I do something different, does not mean I am judging them. Sometimes, I wonder whether there is any point in posting (other than on this thread). - rant over. Sorry.

Kiwikate, I know exactly what you mean about other threads - gave up MN completely at one point because of offensive posts - some people need to get a life, the minute you offer a different opinion, you are made to feel like a bad person!
Haven't got time to respond to all posts. Still concerned we haven't heard from RZ - do we know what hospital she would have been under? Big congrats to STM and family. Glad LL's situation seems to have been sorted out.
I was under the impression that Woodwards gripewater couldn't be used until 6 monthsish - remember with ds1 that had to use infacol to start with, then added gripewater to a bottle of boiled water later on. Maybe it's changed now, or the advice could be different in New Zealand.
KF - what is it with these dhs? Mine has been doing a similar thing for 8 years now, and it drives me mad !! We can all be upstairs when he gets home from work, and it will be 10 mins before he appears as he's been tidying on his way - talk about wrong priorities I know I should be pleased, but he makes me feel like a slob, and I'm not, honest!!
DD has suddenly become very sicky Think will take her to the baby clinic today just to make sure she is keeping down enough to put on weight. Think she may just be over feeding - she feeds v quickly. Was a bit concerned yesterday that she may actually be ill, but v happy in herself and smiling lots, so don't think so.
Kelii22, could it be thrush? Does she have white inside her mouth as it sounds like thrush.
Better go and entertain Ds1 and 2 -they want to make cakes - aaaggghhhh....

Morning everyone (although may be afternoon by now )

Alice is having a nice sleep in her chair by my feet. I have just eaten too much chocolate .

I am also reminiscing through pregnancy by reading the due in September threads. I am up to the 2nd one, so I think this could be a long term project .

thanks for your kind words andif - I had also pretty much stopped posting other than on this thread, so pretty annoyed to get sniped at when going back to other threads after being off them for ages.

TM (agree, no longer STM) - I have never regretted getting together with dh. We agreed on some ground rules before getting married (we are both pig-headed and were worried that we'd end up fighting all the time like his folks). We agreed:

1. our goal as a couple is to encourage, uplift and support each other.
2. never discuss each other in a negative way with others (settle problems behind closed doors and present a united front to the world). So if I think that dh has done something stupid, I'll tell him in private, but in public I'll back him up (and he will do the same for me).
3. agree to disagree - we realised that we would have disagreements, but you don't need to agree about everything to be happy. So when we disagree we don't try and "win" and arguement, or see who is "right" or "wrong". We just say "I'm glad you think that" or "That's nice, dear"

While we do not always meet our lofty goals, we do more often than not, and I'm glad that we agreed on these ground rules upfront. It has meant a minimum of conflict for us. We also have more fun together than either of us did alone. What is it about single that you like? Can you incorporate some of that (whatever it is) into your relationship? Kind of have the best of both worlds.

PC - you have WAY too much time on your hands! Remind us of the highlights (or lowlights) of the pg thread will you (for those of us too lazy or tired or hormonal to read through it)

I resisted buying chocolate today (Just fit back into my pre-pg jeans and don't want to ruin it). Now that it is midnight, I'm wondering what in the world possessed me not to grab a few bars.

PC - I just had a quick look at the first thread. Seems like such a long time ago. Sad that some of the posters didn't have such happy outcomes though, particularly Sarahbee (who I know in RL and who is pregnant again - hurrah) and arabica.

Hello

I'm trying gripwater once a day (when shes very windy)with one shot of infocal with feeds. Seems to be working a little better.(HV ok'd) Gripwater says from one month.

Hope to get dd weighed tomorrow - if it fits in with DS's friend coming round to wreak the joint!

Halloween party on Friday & dh going to Estonia for Stag weekend - he's now talking about renewing football season ticket for the first time in 5 years - is he trying to avoid family life or what???!!! or ?!

Mummyhill - how are you?

Been out all day. Just had to get the kids and escape the house.

David is having max dose infacol before a feed and gripe water after (HV instructions) as he is having real problems with wind and being sick. If it doesn't improve I am to go to gp and nag for infant gaviscon.

hv has left edinburgh scale for me to complete. She agrees it is probably a combination of thyroid and pnd ohh and that gp was being a tit. She has put in a refferal to homestart for me as well but we won't hold our breath as we are just outside a homestart area.

Have received a letter from hospital to go and see my orthapeadic consultant as the results from my mri are back.

mummyhill - hope you're ok & that your mri results will be ok as well xxx. Sounds like you have a good hv.
Here my dd2 has a high temp & I'm waiting to be able to give her some more medication. Just hope that no one else gets it.

Could be time for a new thread? - especially for those of us with slowwww internet connection!