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Bibi hope you get your leave approved and will manage the trip. Tonight we are being blown and rained on, this is meant to be a hurricane later according to a lot of very excited radio weather people, so you are not missing much this evening!

The good thing about a city as small as this, and a country as small as this, is that really anywhere, up to a point, is striking distance. Cities are, anyway. So it's really more living out of the country that is The Big Decision, I think.

I've bored FB with it but my phone died after being dropped in a puddle. I can get a replacement as it's insured but only if I pay e65 which I think is a lot. Pah & ffs.

Glad some serenity achieved, walking is great for the soul. I bought a nice pair of wellie socks yesterday with a view to keeping walking all through the winter. Well, with the dogs we have no choice! Btw when I use the adj "nice" for something in my underwear drawer, it is nice in the context of something that is knee-length, grey & rather woolly. Nothing for Coco de Mer to prick up their ears about. Woolly winter socks as highlight of weekend. Truly, my life must spark envy in your hearts. I am now going to watch Downton Abbey with a nice cup of Earl Grey. Next stop a slanket.

Silks lovely words re. your parents, they sound great. Lucky old you lot!

Enya hope dd2 ok after her bang poor duck.

Just checking in before this drops off 'threads I'm on' I'm sorry I have been a bit rubbish lately at keeping up with you all, DVDs of Buffy real life just getting in the way a bit but will do better next week I promise.

Love you all

Nae bother Fjorgs, been thinking about you though :) Totally understand re. Buffy btw

You know we will need a new thread soon!

Evening

We are up and running again on superfast broadband. hurrah!

Had friends over for the weekend, which was lovely (apart from DD2 waking at 5.30 ). I took the girls to a birthday party this avo - DD1 banged her head and got a nose bleed on the bouncy castle and DD2 insisted on wearing her halloween outfit rather than her party dress .

enya Hope DD2 is ok now. I will forgive you for not popping in for a cuppa

ursula forgot to ask but did you see your lovely doggy in my photos? I have bought my neighbour some welly warming thermal socks for Xmas - i am sure she will be as effusive over them as you are

Yay for the hols silky, but honestly, driving your own car in France is a breeze. I hate driving rental cars on the wrong side, but am fine in my own car

Bless MidiBelle and her dress refusal. I have a trouser refusnik here. All she wants to wear is her summer dresses and cannot comprehend that it may be a tad chilly

I am currently trying to sort a cunning plan to head South this week and catch up with my French friends coming over with their 5 week old baby. If I can sort about 6 things to slot into place it'll be a go-er.......

Ursula - was excited at finding some nice floral knee highs in H&M last week too and very re the slanket

fjorgs - I have all series of Angel on DVD if you need it

Oh, and i am in awe of TS's meticulous holiday plans. I reckon if i have booked a ferry and DH has 'Holiday' in his diary then i am ready to go

All ok Hippster?

No but I'm on i touch and haven't got patience to type

Basically 'd' h wants me to go to doctors to talk to him about pnd

So me being upset obviously must be down to pnd and absolutely nothing to do with feeling ill and being fucking angry with him

Pil are here so he's being the perfect fucking housewife

I've just googled pnd. It said something about husband more likely to spot. How the fuck do I know if he's right?!

{{{{Big hugs my lovely}}}}. and that DH is playing Stepford wife at your expense. Hope you manage to get some rest and you feel stronger in the morning. Just remember, you are a wonderful and capable woman being a fabulous mummy to two small children and nothing can question that

Do you think you are overwhelmed and can't deal with stuff when you are 100% well?

I certainly had crap days, exacerbated when ill, but knew that when i was fit and well and had enough sleep that i was ok. Having not experienced it though, i can't say what might be different feelings caused by PnD. I suspect it is not black and white though

Sorry for all the fucks. I'm a bit angry!

He's at work tomorrow so I'm entertaining his parents

LOL F word allowed . Can you let them take DS out so you can rest and sleep with DD?

right, hold on a minute. You're not feeling well, you're coping with new baby, T and PIL - which frankly would tip me over the edge and now you have PND??

Did I miss the moment when he nipped to medical school - is that what he's doing in that shed of his?

whether or not you do have PND isn't the issue here. If you do then that's fine and we can deal with it. However, the issue here is that he should be supporting you more and not making you feel like you're not allowed to have moments when you can't be arsed.

Sorry but PMSL at the 'medical shed'

I'm checking in, vair,vair late.

I was planning on recommending Tom Crean too!
The rain has whipped past and ds hasn't got school in the morning so we can all snuggle up here for the day, once dh has left the building.

Which reminded me I hadn't made him any sandwiches. Done now, so bed it is.

Hipster, have you completely healed from your undercarriage boo-boo? Last you reported was the new stronger anti-bs. That type of discomfort is draining. Add to that lack of proper 8 consecutive hours sleep, the constant need for calories to replenish your milk supply, the normal daily home tasks, the chasing after a wonderful toddler and the feeling you are but a machine that everyone and everything requires 24/7 attention from. NO you do not have PND! You are exhausted!! If memory serves his parents cause issue in non-stressful times. Having them around ON TOP OF ALL THIS can only be back braking. Your DH needs to give you a HUG. Then he might need to do all the chores for an entire week, to include child care. If you don't rest you can't heal! I will say it again: YOU DO NOT HAVE PND!!

If necessary, Skype me when DH is around and I'll have a nice long chat with the chap.

My oldest and dearest best friend stopped by for a moment today on her way home. Our kids had a blast while we all sat and chatted. VERY NICE!

Hippy too - seems a bit of a leap from not feeling well and getting a bit stressed to having PND. But do go see the doctor if you are having any doubts (other than those H has put in your head) and you have a sympathetic GP of course! I did the Edinburgh Test as part of my assessment with the Doctor www.real-depression-help.com/edinburgh-postnatal-depression-scale.html of course not definitive but can be an indicator.

I think my DH would fear for his manhood if he suggested something like that and I had PND!

Hipster hope PIL were tolerable & you slept last night.

Re. PND, can't speak with voice of experience. But can guarantee (and I have never spent a second in the medical shed) that the way for dh to help you if you DO is not to make you feel crap about the fact that you might have it!

I have been amazed at how you (all you second timers actually) have just appeared to take things in your stride, actually. And hips you seem to be doing fabulous cooking and smoothing over of rows and generally managing things i.e. family life. dd is still very small, and imo you don't have to do this. I mean of course you have to struggle off to do whatever ds is doing that day, and it helps if there's dinner on the table. But overall, I'd say, give yourself a bit of a break from expectations.

Being fed up at having PIL to stay when you have a small baby and are not well yourself does not = PND. It = normal. Even without having a small baby it probably = normal.

Go to the gp and discuss pnd if you think you might have it. But don't go IF the vibe is dh saying you're not performing and therefore must have pnd and therefore must go and get it sorted out so that you can return home cured and able to perform as Mrs Magic Mum n Wife again.

Morning :)

DD2 not well and I am unsure if we need the doc. She threw up her bedtime feed last night and I thought it was just a one off due to wind but she has thrown up all her feeds since and is now throwing up that horrible yellow/brown bile stuff and wretching, she won't feed at all.

Hippy - I found after DD2 that hings were expected to go back to 'normal' much sooner without any consideration for the fact that I was tired/hungry/ill or just plain old up to my eyeballs. My DH was slightly more tactful than yours but after being told DD2 and I were going to bed and would call him in a few days, could I have all my meals delivered, DD1 wasn't allowed all day telly, washing/hoovering/tidying was to be done, DD1 had classes to get to and friends to see and my parents were coming to stay - he might get a bit stressed and down. I knew deep down it wasn't PND but he made me doubt myself and I checked out the test Merlion suggested and nope I was right it was just new baby+2 year old+grumpy old husband itis. BUT If you have any doubts(of your own!) then please go and see your GP.

Back in a bit more vomit to clear up!

Oh blueberry that's horrible for dd2 - I'm surprised she's not feeling thirsty after all that - I presume you've tried water. I always think vomiting seems such a strong thing to happen to such a small body. They do say 24 hours of vomiting before getting doc, but I'd be worried about liquids before that if she's down to bile and won't take anything, I'd say if lunchtime comes and still no feed off you go.

BBBB hope DD2 feeling better soon. Maybe would be a good idea to go anyway would be good to get her some pro-biotics to help her tummy recover a bit more quickly?

DS is unfortunately having an afternoon of not doing much as he decided to wake up at 4am and only went back to sleep for about an hour between then and 6am when I got up with him. I am exhausted and still feeling sick (which still taking as a good sign as I've been scaring myself reading the 'Jue in June' thread and so many are leaving already ). DH has promised to come home early so I can have a sleep but I know he's having to deal with a lot of cr*p at work atm - this truly is a case of idiot wwbankers.