November 2008 - Two, too soon !!

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Someone had to do it. Witty thread titles, not my forte, but no one else seemed willing.

Oh, but your name is so lovely!

Mine is because a) I ate a LOT of humble pie re the awfulness of baby food in jars and b) I'm the only bugger in our house who can actually open a jar. But then no-one else eats pickles in quite the same quantity as me.

Mm, pickles... be right back.

Sparks I agree - don't change your name as it is so pretty Wish I had that rule about no parties - would have saved myself a fortune

Opener well, I hope you are pg - having 2 is lovely (well, some most of the time anyway )

Funnily enough, Hamster is absolutely fine at nursery as he has been going since he was 8 months old - no problems there about shyness. Just seems to be anywhere else and even then, it is quite random and does particularly seem to be women??

lol! Thanks but I dunno have read other threads and seen other names and mine just seems a bit 'twee'!! I like the witty ones best!

Might you be pg Opener?? Sorry must have missed that!

Ceebs I wouldn't worry about the shyness it seems quite natural at their age no? DS1 can even be really shy with strangers (and he can normally talk for Scotland!). DS2 is more aggressive but that is prob cos he is a product of a much more stressed out mother and [shame] and .

jars - HELLLLOOO! Maybe baby, lovely. Hope you and DH are ok now and those thoughts you were having have passed. Would love me and DH to have a couple of 17yr old moments or at least when this babe out. We are busy having constant 60year old moments and between looking after the kids just falling out mainly.
ceebee - DD is definitely not shy. If anything too strong willed and independant. Dont know where she gets it from . But she is 100X worse than me even at this young age. But niether my kids are shy or have really ever been. I think so much is down to personality and so much down to going to nursery and such like without mum/dad there. Shyness is not a bad thing. Get so paranoid that someone could take DS (4yr) and know EVERYTHING about him. He went missing the other day in matalan when I turned around for a moment. I was terrified/angry.

Cant decide what to do for DD b'day especially with babe being due 4 days later. To be honest cake, playing and balloons would probably do the trick at 2yrs old.

OMG its a girl!!!!!!

I'm a little tiny bit excited I'm going mad DH is working away and won't have reception til 4ish - it is KILLING me [me]

Hello Jars fingers crossed for you!

Buzz Oh I am so pleased for you Just checking in whilst eating my lunch and what lovely news!! Just think of all those pretty pink things......

I have to leave for a bit.
I am too fragile at the moment.
SN boards are already helping me. I think that is where I need to be right now.

I assume this is acceptable to you all.
I am sure you will let me back in, right , , when I am strong enough ?

ladybuzz CONGRATS!!!! obs See you soon.

Obs, hugs. You know where to find us (says me )

Ladybuzz, yay! Take it this is scan, not birth? Not sure where I you're up to now.

Ceebs, we went to toddler group this morning and DS was limpet boy again. He would run off and play nicely for 5 mins, look round, not immediately see me, scream hysterically, run around, fall over something or someone, hurt himself, cry floods of tears and need cuddling for ten minutes. For an hour and a half. Good job he is otherwise so fab.

Btw... he sleeps! We get solid sleep (well, DH does nut half pint bladder here always gets up at least once) and he goes down to sleep on his own. We did controlled crying in the end, about a month ago.

5 days until I can test... Do I really want to start this all over again?

Obs - Glad you are getting to speak to people who obviously understand and know what you are going through. Hope it all works out.. See you soon I hope.

Ladybuzz - Yay Yay Yay now tell me how did you do that??!! lol!! How very very exciting!! Am so happy for you.

I also did my own adapted version of controlled crying with DS2 at about 7 months. It worked after two nights (1st night 50 mins, 2nd night 15 mins) and quite honestly saved my sanity.

Opener - well do you? Talk to us..!

Obs go wherever you need to to get the support you need You will always be welcome back here x

Jars (prefer that to Opener ) I have been very fortunate and not needed to use CC with either of my 2 (my god, Hamster is an absolute angel at sleeping and always has been and I thank my lucky stars for that every night!!) but I would have had no hesitation in using it to get myself a good night's sleep if required Glad it worked for you!! And babe no.2 is likely to be completely different so you may get a good sleeper second time round!?

obs of course you will be welcome!

jars I am 22 weeks so yes scan not birth thank goodness

Thought it sounded a bit low-key for a birth announcement! 22 weeks, wow! Hope you're enjoying your second trimester.

Sparkle, I do, I do, but we were sort of going to wait until the house was sold. I bet I'm not pg, after all this, but I bought two tests anyway today so I can waste one on Saturday and test again on Tues if I don't get AF.

DS is currently sat on the floor playing an elaborate and noisy game that has something to do with a dog chasing an elephant on a train. He is very happy.

Opener/Jars whatever u prefer.. making the decision to have number 2 was one of the hardest decisions I ever made! I came to the conclusion it was prob better if it was just an accident!! In the end you will know yourself if and when it is right.. On the other hand the decision to have number 3 was way easier for me. Def not! (well not for at least another year...).

Waves to all and congrats to everyone who is pg again! So lovely we can continue to hear/share stories..! xx

Shit I killed the thread didn't I?

Whilst I am here can I just add one word to my previous post.. it should have read 'making the decision WHEN to have number 2'.

scuttles back to sofa..

I'm still here - DH has had our internet connection disconnected cos he is stupid misunderstood an e-mail they sent - and he is now away on business and can't sort it out until late Friday night

I feel so lost...am sat at work doing this And I had a VIP slot for the Next sale for tonight which I won't be able to use

The decision to have no.2 was easy for me - I like things to be planned and organised so me and DH had a 'family' plan and we stuck to it Hamster took a couple of months longer to conceive than we hoped but I am not that controlling Hey, we even got the the 2 boys we wanted

All ok here - Hamster still unhappy at nursery drop-offs as his big bro is not there now but since he is a grumpy bugger unhappy little soul most of the time anyway, I am not too concerned

Oh no Ceebs that is really annoying! Call Next and get another slot? They didn't send me one - prob cos in my broke state I can no longer afford Next so haven't ordered for aaages. I didn't think the last sale was that great anyway.

I knew I wanted another one just didn't know what age gap would be best blah blah in end thought acht it'll prob take about 6 months to get pg again anyway.. Came off pill and bingo pg straight away! That'll learn me!

Also wanted 2 boys and got 2 boys so now feel I have real cheek to have pangs for a girl.. Dont happen that way anyway and cant happen in next year so hope the pangs will fade..

Funny you say Hamster is grumpy, Tinytoes is really grumpy and even has a real attitude! I thought it must have been cos I didn't provide him with as calm and attentive a first year as I did for DS1. However have spoken to a couple of people this week who have same thing with their DC2 (and they both always seem much more patient than me) .

Or maybe they are different at home? Or maybe 2nd DC can have attitude probs! lol can you tell I am a DC1 myself .

Nervously logs off and hopes thread doesn't die with boredom at my ramblings...

sparks I am thinking it must be a DC2 thing then (although I always read things about second children being really chilled and calm as they accept they don't get full attention as that is always the way it has been for them - maybe it goes either way??)

Funnily enough, nursery always tell me what a happy lovely little boy Hamster is - to the extent that me and DH wonder if they actually know which child Hamster is He definitely saves it for home and therefore must feel like he constantly has to be grumpy and stroppy when with us. He definitely has an attitude too - very stroppy, has huge tantrums, will push DS1 out of the way in a temper - never had that with DS1 so I am at a loss how to handle it!!!

Oops forgot to post that DH has sorted out the internet - Next sale here I come

Me too Ceebs, Tiny goes mental if anyone says 'no' to him (even if in gentle tone) and goes into a total rage if he doesn't get his own way. I had also read about DC2 being the patient ones! I did think maybe it had something to do with his lack of ability in the speech dept? Esp compared to DS1 who was talking in sentences by now.. Who knows.

I def think that kids can just save it for their mums tho, I have a friend whose DD just moans and cries CONSTANTLY when her mum is there. No joke. It is really irritating in fact and I was reluctant to ever look after her at first. However I bit the bullet and took her for a couple of hours while my friend had to go out and the girl was absolutely fine! No whinging, crying, moaning it was like she was a different child. Of course when my friend came back she reverted to type and was a complete whiner again.

Tiny doesn't whine like that but I have not had reports of him being in a rage whilst at childminder. Guess it what they think they can get away with? Tiny also pushes DS1 and even went thru a phase of biting and hitting him. DS1 was also never like that.

Yay good on Mr Ceebs!!

oh it is def a DC2 thing then! J is a stroppy little monster too and hates to be told no!

Strangely enough he too is an angel at Nursery and with anyone else. My great niece is also like your friends DD, she is a nightmare when DN is there and lovely (mostly) when she isn't!

Glad you got your internet back in time for your slot

Maybe this one'll be easier, then? Finbo has been a bugger with bathtime and teeth. I cried.

No +ve test yet, but I am so knackered I wanted to lie on the floor when DS was in the bath. I'm also horrible and tearful (more so than mere PMS would allow for), have low achy "balloony" feeling, sore boobs and want to throw up if I go more than two hours without food. I cannot stand the smell off fag smoke or coffee.

If this is PMS I'm off to the doc's to get Valium. If not, I'm off to get a booking appointment.

Anyway, quiet night in and early night for me as DH is out on the lash and Finbo is already asleep. Bless him.

Jars those symptoms sound very encouraging - have you actually tested yet?? I remember that feeling of exhaustion and it is soooo much worse when you have a toddler causing chaos around you!!

ditto to the DC2 thang.

Really girls?? DC2 thing is not just mine then. I honestly thought it was all my fault..!

Yes Jars that does sound like you could well be heading for a +ve result. Valium on the other hand, I could do with some of that.. Enjoy your peaceful evening.

I have sent DH off to make cocktails. The long weekend starts here!

Raises virtual glass to all...