Sept 08 - Our LO's are nearly 2, and they're hiding to do a poo (is it time for potty training, not until it stops this raining)

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I started it!! (I'm going away to London with just DD1 tomorrow so I want to know where you all are when we get back.

3 toddler free days!!

bec that looks like a really good list of food to have down Toby by 1.30pm. Ds isn't much of a breakfast person. He actually prefers to eat a late breakfast from 9:30 onwards, but days like today where we had to get him out to the Childminder he only had two grapes and a couple of cubes of pear for breakfast. He still insists on a cup of milk when he wakes so I think that fills him up.

He is also withholding his poo so will lose his appetite if it's been a couple of days since he's gone. He makes up for it afterwards so I'm not at all worried about his weight, just anxious when he's backed up and can't eat because he's usually in a foul mood.

Dh and I made the decision to stop ttc while we wait for these tests to happen. It's so heartbreaking but it's the sensible thing to do and it's only temporary. Just seems so unnatural letting the next two chances pass us by on purpose - we've been ttc since Aug 09 breaking only for those three bfp's. Hopefully next time will be quick and trouble-free.

DG yeah, its not too bad but not much compared with what he was eating a few months ago. I really try not to get too worked up about it and he is such a stocky thing people would laugh if they knew how much I stress about it!!

Hope the tests go smoothly - I think you are being sensible in stopping ttc til the results are in, but I realise it must have been a very difficult decision.

Fingers crossed x

ILTMIMI I am DREADING it!!!! We have got so used to mooching about in the mornings and as the school is a 5 min car journey away we have to leave the house even earlier! aarggh.....

Bec Dieticians tell you to look at what they est over a week not just one day. Robyn has days where she eats loads of fruit then doesn't touch it for days. If you look at the whole week tough it is more balanced.
Talking of food i have to stop her trying to feed Lucy.

oh flippin' heck. DH leant on DS's arm while he stretched across the backseat to pick something up while DS was strapped in his car seat. Poor DS complained and whimpered about a sore arm all the way to the station ('put sudocreme on, bit sore'). They're now in A&E having had an xray. Am sat at work waiting to find out if it's fractured. First trip to A&E for injury, had to happen eventually I suppose. I feel guilty for being at work, DH must feel bloody terrible.

DG Oh your poor ds and dh!!!

My nephew broke his wrist last week (compound fracture - nasty) and the A&E nurse said that he had done very well to get to 7 and not have broken something before!!!

He is fine btw, not loving his splint though!
Hope your ds is ok (and your dh!) xx

debs yes, thats good advice. I get too wound up when he doesnt eat. I forget I have days when I dont eat much! He only had 1 slice of toast (just!) and 2 fromage frais this morning.....oh well.

Off to a meeting with the HT of ds1's new school now......wish me luck!!

Good luck with the HT bec - and nearly a whole slice of toast is still good! (DS hates toast we struggle to get carbs into him in the morning)

Just heard that xrays show nothing is broken. Phew.

ooh thats good news!

Been to see HT...got a really good feeling about it although the timetable they have worked out for him means that by friday he will be doing full days....eeek!

Just picked up all his uniform...forgotten how expensive it all is!!!

So glad DS is OK DG Your poor DH must have felt awful - it's so easy to lean on them in the car seat IYKIM.

becs you will get used to a new routine in time. I remember getting ready to go back to work and saying to a colleague 'but we don't have breakfast till 9.30!'. The first few weeks are strange but now I have forgotten what maternity leave was like. I think the first few days are actually easy as you get yourself all geared up for the big change and are super prepared etc, then complacency creeps in and after a week or so you get a really bad morning to remind you why routine is required!

Debs your comment about Robyn and Lucy made me smile. If I ever manager to conceive No2, I can see C helpfully trying to stuff toast or porridge down a newborn!

Have worn DP out this week and it's not even Wednesday and I'm not sure whether I'm on the 2ww or not.

Hopefully come back, all is forgiven!! We miss you. Are you OK?

Hello ninja too.

mrsa I can foresee many a bad morning!!!

I was wondering where hopefully was too...hope shes ok

Hi all, sorry I've not posted much, had guests over the weekend and DH's long hours mean I don't get much me time at the end of the day, and what I do have tends to be spent watching strictly!

Been a very emotional week or so. If we'd got pg when we first started trying then our baby would have been due on sat...and on that day a friend had her third baby...and gave it the name we've picked out :( We would still use the name if we ever have a girl, but its so hard, these guys have a family that mirrors ours with DD, then 2yo DS, now they've had another DD.

AF is due tomorrow or Thursday. I went back to the consultant yesterday, I'm now on the waiting list for a laparoscopy to see if it is endo. If it is then their preferred treatment is to give you hormones to shut down your ovaries and give you a temporary menopause for 6m. The idea being that if there's no oestrogen to feed the endo, then it whithers and dies, whereas with surgery, they can't be sure they've got it all so it'll just grow back.
I'm so unhappy about that treatment, I hate the pill because of the way it over-rides my hormones and natural desires and emotions, and this is a ton worse. I'd have hot flushes, mood swings, tearfulness, no libido. Basically permanent pmt. No thank you.

So I'll have the laparoscopy for diagnostic purposes, but not sure what we'll do beyond that. We don't want to go through fertility tests as we already have two children, it would be a case of accepting that this is it and giving away the baby stuff and getting on with life.

Also my acne is back really badly, prob coz of central heating and cold weather, so I've finally started using the cream again that the doc gave me last March, and its burned my skin. I've got horrendous dry red skin right across my chin, and its been weeping and leaving crusty yellow residue behind. The only thing that calms it (water makes it burn even more) is sudocreme which means I have to walk around with a ghostly white face instead. Really great for the self esteem

Sorry for being all me-me-me, but that's what's being going on lately!

Oh and also DS is not eating but its so encouraging to come on here and see that we're all in the same boat, I can stop worrying about it now!

carrie I am so sorry you are having such a bad time I know I got very low after my mc when the babies would have been due...its only natural to mourn what could have been...

My dsis was put on meds to prompt menopause before her op and she hated it. She is not the most even tempered person at the best of times!!!

I too am strictly mad at the mo.....hoping to go and see the live show at the notts arena!

oh carrie sounds like you're havign quite a rough ride. Clearly you have my utmost sympathies on the TTC side of things. I can't tell you what decision I'd make in your shoes as I'm having enough trouble coming to terms with my own ones...but I know you're a really level-headed person and you'll do whats best for you and your family in the long-run.

bec glad to hear meeting went well.

mrsA you do know you can go every other day?

I'm back from an acupuncture session. I feel better already. Just hoping to get my cycles on track after this mc, so when we're back to ttc I'll be in tip-top condition. I've realised more and more that taking aspirin on it's own is just a placebo, if I genuinely had a clotting problem then I would need more than aspirin to treat it.

Carrie so sorry to hear you're having a bad time of it. It must be very hard to know what you want but then things don't go as planned.

I'm getting a bit frustrated here as my body does not like me atm. Since having C, I've had near perfect 28 or 29 day cycles, then bing, the minute DP and I start TTC, my cycles go haywire. Last month I had a 35 day cycle and now (as I'm charting) I'm on CD23 and still not ov.
Being the worrier I am, I am now thinking allsorts. Do you think you have endometriosis? What are the symptoms?
Before C, we had some very initial blood tests after 6m TTC but our path down the fertility programme never got anywhere as we conceived C out of the blue. If nothing happens in the next few months, part of me wants to ask for help and part of me says not to waste NHS resources as I already have one child.

Quickly caveatting that I'm not commenting on other peple going for fertility tests - far from it - if we don't conceive, I will go to see my GP but will feel guilty every step of the way which is not healthy but I decided long ago that my subconcious is bonkers and out to get me.

Glad to hear ds's arm is ok Digi. It sounds like you've had some tough decisions to make, even if you're not totally happy with the decisions made sometimes it just helps to have made a decision and have a plan. The acupuncture sounds lovely - do you feel heat pouring out of the site that has a needle in? I did when I had it.

MrsA - there is nothing like charting to send your cycle a haywire. Before we ttc this baby I charted for 3 months previous to have a look at what was happening so I understood my cycles before we swi. Like you I was Mrs 28 Days, but as soon as I charted I had stupidly long cycles and nearly convinced myself that I was pg - even though we weren't trying and the chart was showing that I clearly wasn't pg. I'm sure the micro analysing sends you a bit doolally.

Sounds like you've had a shit weekend and a really tough decision to make Carrie, I'm not surprised you have reservations about putting your body through a temp menopause, it's not a decision to take lightly.

I am SCD mad as well. I just KNEW there was going to be a 'shock' couple leaving this week. It always happens around now doesn't it? I also think I may be a leetle bit in love with Artem - a guilty pleasure or what? I'm not even sure if he's straight

Sorry ILTMIMI Artem is mine

Just booked my tickets to the live SCD show at Notts Arena!!! whoo hoo!!

I really like Robin , just coz he's well 'ard and from Ipswich, just seems so funny alongside Vincent et al! Apparently Anton Du Beke's real name is Tony Beke and Anton is just his pretentious stage name.

mrsA I know what you mean about going for fertility tests. I honestly don't know what I'd do in your shoes, but I think that since I have two children, we won't pursue it.

Symptoms of endo are: excessive period pain before and during your period, pain going to the toilet during AF, painful sex (esp deep penetration, no such thing as TMI ) and various other pains and things around the pelvic area. Its different for everyone. Certainly since I had anaemia diagnosed and have been on iron tablets my cycles have stabilised a bit and are back to 'normal' and not as heavy as they were at the start of the year.

I am gradually starting to accept that this will prob never happen for us, and move on. Still don't want to have to face my friend's baby though :(

bookmarking...

Thanks ILTMIMI I just can't keep up atm.

Had a rubbish morning this morning as boh kids being a pain and crying alternately. It was DD1's school photo and she wanted M to wear something special which M didn't want to wear. Then she fell nd I spilled a bottle of milk and ..... I got very grumpy and just made DD1 cry more. I'm not convinced the photos are going to be great

Carrie - you are having a tough time

Hi MrsA I can't believe your Mum is being an a**e again, it seems like she just can't get it quite right.

We went to a big firework disply on Saturday, DD1 said it was too beautiful for words to describe and M said the fireworks were going to get her she really wanted to go and see the fire though.

M has days where she eats very little and meals where she just wants to eat one part (today it was falafel). Basically she's too impatient to be finished and to go and play. She's hardle wasting away though

I'm sorry Bec, but we're just going to have a bitch fight over Artem Am very jealous about the tickets

I will kindly let you have Robin though Carrie He is gay isn't he? I have the worst gaydar ever. I was really surprised when he mentioned he came from Ipswich (I lived and worked there for years, so I feel a connection ) because he sounds Australian, or is that just me?

ILTMIMI Bring it oooonnnnn!!!!
Cant wait to see the show...been the last 2 years and its a great night out. ds1 loves it too!! He wanted Chris Hollins to win last year - which he did - and then he did the tour too

ds1 and I were doing the (said in best CRH voice) Cha-cha-cha in the kitchen last night to "Love cats" by The Cure

I think Robin is gay and Craig has got a massive crush on him IMO.

Feel so sorry for Jimi Mistry...he is devastated to be out isnt he? He seemed to really love it.

I must warn you I am the strictly uber-fan Have watched it since the first series and am addicted. Which is odd as I dont do any of the other programmes like X factor, BGT etc

I am guessing Scott, Matt and Cara in the final.

My ds1 does the most amazing impersonation of Bruno saying "sccottt!!" you have ever heard!!!

You don't want to start what you can't finish Bec .......... I'm the one giving YOU a headlock

Sounds like we were separated at birth when it comes to SCD. I watch the American version as well

I will be most pissed off if Anne doesn't go soon. It's just not funny, it never was. Do one Widders

I want to cha cha cha with your ds. DH just gives me a look when I suggest we recreate some of the dances. I mean, it's not as if I'm suggesting doing lifts or owt

hahahahahaha Yes, thats EXACTLY what I look like in a bikini!!!!

Nuff said, you can have him!

I really think it should anne, gavin and michelle off next (in that order)

Anton is starting to bug me a bit with his "comedy" routines.....it is supposed to be a dancing contest!!

ds1 is so great, he will try anything! When the male dancers did the paso at the start of the halloween show to "Muse" (how good was that!) he was trying to copy them, bless him!

He is currently watching "Top gear"....sigh

Never mind the tour, I'm buying ringside seats for bec and ILTMIMI's fight. Handbags at dawn ladies, may the best woman win

Do either of you have a girl crush on Claudia...? No, just me then She's worn some awful outfits on the results show though, really drab compared to Tess's get-up.

DD watched a bit with me the week Erin was in the green fluffy bikini and DD asked why I don't wear things like that. So many reasons...!

I agree that Anne, Michelle and Gavin have to be the next three to go, and I don't really care which order. Anne could end up being like Christopher Parker though, who made it all the way to the final despite a complete inability to dance. And I feel she's not making quite as much of a spectacle of herself as John Sargeant did. There's always a shock exit around this time, and Jimi was never going to win, so I don't really mind that he's gone. It would be so different if there was a dance off though.

I have to admit that I really like Brendan, and have done since the first series. James Jordan turned nice for a couple of years but now has got too big for his boots again. The clip of him pretending to snog Kara just wasn't funny.

On other topics, I'm feeling far less grumpy today, realise now how much of it must have been PMT. Reading back that I don't want to see my friend's baby seems insane now!

Having been to the hospital last monday, I got a phonecall today to say my op is on 9th Dec! That's four weeks tomorrow, so we can squeeze in one last swi

My skin is still burning :( Its going crusty all the time and still weeping and it hurts to smile. I might move on from sudacreme to E45 tonight and see if that makes a difference. I can't believe how big an effect one application of cream on sunday has made.

Michelle should of gone on Sunday and she knew it. She is pretty dreadful and hasn't she aged badly(bitch emoticon needed here).
I don't mind Ann but I wish she would dance in hold rather then holding herself 5 feet away all the time, she looks like a sagging tree.