June Mummies 3 - One handed typers over here!!

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Lynny - Glad you had a fab time. I think my little sister managed to get some tickets at the last minute but I don't know. My big sis gets VIP tickets most years through her job contacts lucky woman!
KVG - Sorry to hear about your crying babe .
That is interesting about the swaddling though.
It is far to hot to do anything like that here. DD's sleep in vests with no covers and the fans on, although the fans do get turned down at about 2am. I found the grobag was brilliant with dd1 as she always kicked her covers off. I think dd2 will be even worse as the few times I have covered her legs with a muslin it has lasted about five seconds. I found dd2 sucking her dress today . She had made a big wet patch in the middle although seemed perfectly happy about it. Perhaps she would like a comforter of some sort. I was (and still am) surprised that dd1 never has got really attached to anything. She has a favourite soft toy for a couple of days and then chooses another one. In some ways I wish she had so that she could have a comfort from something if I am not around but I suppose it is a good thing in the long run. Have any of your children had a comforter? I used to suck my thumb and only stopped at night age 12 when I got braces and couldn't physically fit my thumb in my mouth. Have good evenings all. DD2 and I are off for a bath to cool down. We have had a vague routine of morning, lunch and afternoon nap today and seem to have had longer between feeds, but better feeds when she takes them. Hope tonight will be good and I will feel I have turned a corner. I am not complaining though as we don't have many problems with her at all.
Wishing you all lots of sleep tonight. xx

Hi girlies

Mandy - know what you mean about enjoying being able to do things when dd is alseep, but what Tessie/Coop say is right, if you wake her abit earlier each day until she's up when you start the day you will find she'll have better daytime naps, and evenings too.

Am finding the last couple of days hard myself...having been cooped up coz of the rain yesterday and a teacher visit keeping us in all of this afternoon, ds has been keeping dd from sleeping during the day, not his fault, just the joys of a loud active toddler , but consequently we've had one overtired little girlie who's cried for an hour trying to get herself off to sleep . Still ds is at mil's tomorrow, so she'll be able to get some sleep then!

Lynny - was going to ask how the concert was - glad to hear you enjoyed it

Coop - 13lb 4oz at nine weeks and I thought I had a big girlie on my hands when dd weighed in at 12lb 10oz at 9+5 . My dd's also a secret fabric sucker - actually she's no so secretive about it either, nor particular, muslins, teddy bear, bibs - anything will do!

KVG - my dd loves to be swaddled too, have tried her in the grobag but unless she's also got a sheet pinning her to the bed she's not happy , and as that's defeating the point of them we're sticking with the sheet/blanket combo for now

Lua, although dd would appear to have her pick, ds also seems to be in a male majority birth year, so as long as he's still sorted with your dd, our arrangement still stands

sfxmum - am soooo with you on the haircut front . Hope dd's jabs went ok, our second batch are in 2 1/2 weeks , I must be brave, I must not cry, I must be brave...do you think if I say it enough it'll work?

Jonah - did your ds sleep through again last night? No on second thoughts don't answer if he did It'll make me too !

Had ds's teacher-to-be around today to introduce herself...still nursery, but it's the one that's joined to the infants school he'll be attending, so it seems sort of more official than the private one I had him in when I was at work, daft I know but I just thought gosh he's growing up; off to school - they're not babies for long really are they

Thread has been relatively quiet over the last few days...Welshie's on holiday, but where's everyone else?? Charley's been awol for a while now. You were going to tell us how you didn't have colic that night and then just disappeared...hope all's ok poppet?? And hope everyone else is just out enjoying their little one

Night night, x

Morning all - first post of the morning again from me, as dd is yet again still asleep! .

Wow, dd had her immunisations yesterday and I was expecting hell. DH came with us and he was great, he had to hold her little legs still for the injections as I don't think I would have been strong enough, physically or mentally . dd went a bit mad after the second one, but had stopped crying by the time we left the sugery. We calpoled her when we got home and wow , what a good afternoon we had . Gave her another dose in the evening and had the best evening for ages, smiley baby, calm feeds, asleep at 11pm. Can you give them a dose every evening? [evil emoticon] . Guess not, without a valid reason.

Oh yes and we officially have a 'bonny' baby (quoting hv). 9 weeks today and weighing 13lbs 10oz, in 91st centile for all measurements - Shes a daddys girl, especially re: giant head, he can't get a hat to fit him .

Lynny - Glad you had such a good time at V. Very that you saw scissor sisters. My sis was there, but her friend effectively got mugged by security backstage , haven't had the full story yet, but think it ruined it for her!

KVG - I have started swaddling dd at night and she definately sleeps longer, I think because it stops her punching herself in the face , . However as her middle name seems to be houdini , sounds like we could do with a miracle blanket too. Where do you get them from? Also, are they very warm? or not too thick?

Coop - Ha Ha, I am a reformed thumb sucker too - I used to suck thumb and play with my ear at the same time using different hands obviously . DD is also sucking and seems to like fabric too: muslins, my jeans, anyones t-shirt, shirt etc, the shoulder strap of her buggy (she looks so funny trying to lick it with her little tongue!). What she won't suck is a bottle or dummy! .

Tea - might try gradually waking her a bit earlier each day, if I can get her to nap better it will be worth it! Or might be a coward and see if she starts doing so naturally.

Rain is a real bummer. I really fancy a walk today, but will end up like a drowned rat by the look of it! Must be even harder to be couped up with 2.

Tessie - Thanks for letting me know about your routine. I am hoping dd will start waking earlier by herself.

Wishing good (if wet) day to all.

hi tea, kvg and y'all

excuse typing 1 handed

do any of you get yr babies to settle in day for naps without lots crying and or cuddling?

ds won t go down without crying loads and i end up with him in my arms to calm him and go off then try to settle then....just can t remember with 1st but also had terribke probs with her sleeping...

lynny - sounds great the Vam must get it together to go out.........

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Ahh, Tea, you soft old thing Know what you mean though - I look at DS1 and he seems so grown-up, even more so since we had DS2.

Another one who's desperate for a haircut to sort out my two-tone hair and general frizziness. Appointment next week, yippee!

LOL at the pairing off already. My poor DSs are also surrounded by other little boys - all my friends have had them, including one born on Monday. Saw him yesterday, he looked beautiful but tiny next to DS2. Her birth story was very similar to mine - planned homebirth but baby arrived before the midwife did so her DH had to deliver!

Have just put DS2 in a grobag at night, and he does look like he's wearing a pinafore

Mandymac, I second what everyone else says about gradually getting DD up earlier and earlier. It's a trade-off I suppose - up ealier but bed earlier (evenings without the baby are fab, time to be just you again!)

Well it's my birthday today (34 ) and as it's just me and DS2, I've treated myself to some trashy mags and have aleady started on the chocolate

Hope you all had a restful night.

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One-handed posting took so long I cross-posted with you all! Red, DS2 also cries before naps unless he drops off after a feed (he's lying in my arms now, completely milk-drunk asleep).

Mandymac, your DD sounds a lovely chubby baby

Lynny, sorry about your pictures.

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{blush] Just gossip ones I'm afraid!

Dr Brown bottles have been recommended to a friend and she says they are very good.

Happy birthday MrsW - enjoy the trashy mags and chocolate.

I know what you mean about your older dses too - ds is due to start school proper this September and I keep looking at him and getting all teary. Of course it's not helping that we don't know where he's going to school yet as we are still in the middle of moving, so he will have to start late.

Off to my 8 week check this morning, in fact now! will have to go and prise ds away from his cartoons and wake dd up.

Happy birthday MrsW! Hope you have a lovely day, and let us know if you find out any vital goss. Btw, have Jordan and Peter really named their child Junior?! Or is he Peter Jr but they call him Junior?

Just waiting on the arrival of a couple of friends with a four year old and a 9-monther. I looked round the flat this morning to work out how I might toddler-proof it and realised it was impossible! Hey ho, let's hope they don't manage to do too much damage before we head out for lunch

I might have to give this swaddling thing a go when we finally start trying to put ds down for his naps in the cot (I don't think the Moses basket is going to work out for us now). Trouble is he hates having his arms in and generally seems very hot as well, not sure it will be a goer for us. NCT do a swaddling blanket as well, not sure if maybe that's suitable til a later age or if it's just the same one as Mothercare rebranded?

KVG, I have the Baby Whisperer too although haven't really managed to implement anything yet. Trouble is, with both dh and I at home it's not really such a big problem if ds has all his naps on one or other of our knees. And dh doesn't see anything wrong with co-sleeping, thinks we can just sort it all out later. I do know my cousin co-slept with her dd for about 11 months and then was really worried about how it was going to go, moving her to her own room. In the event it was perfectly fine.

Mrs W - HAPPY BIRTHDAY nothing wrong with a couple of trashy, sorry glossy mags and a huge (hope it's huge) bar of chocolate . Only 34 - I wish! DH will be 35 on sunday and he's my toy boy!

Oh yep - I'm a massive softie, cry at the drop of a hat, and that was before kids! Now I'm just in constant floods . My nanna used to call me a soppy date, and she's not wrong

Lynny, Dr Brown's are fab at getting littleones to take more, because of the easy flow system the teats don't collapse and they don't need to take a breather to finish a large amount of milk - we use ours for dd at night in the hope that she'll take more and sleep longer. She definitely takes more, greedy little bugger, but resolutely wakes twice, always no matter how much she's had!. You could also try the Toppee Tippee variflow teats. These are true variflow (unlike the avent ones), they have a cross cut hole so that as the baby sucks harder, more comes out and faster, so would help with a thicker formula and you wouldn't need to keep changing the teat size as baby gets older, the teats should fit any wide neck bottle so you shouldn't need to change the bottles you already have. HTH, BTW how's the staydown formula going?

Red - have you tried putting ds into a sling and just getting on with what you need to do, dd loves hers and I can almost 100% guarantee she'll sleep when she's in there...and I just love using it , with ds I used my travel system alot and thought it was great, then when he was @ 6 months and too big to comfortably fit in a sling (massive baby!) I realised I hadn't really cuddled him very much ...making up for it with dd now tho!

Trib - don't worry too much about co-sleeping. My sister's best bit of advice when I was getting stressed about ds being in with us and maybe not going into his own bed was 'enjoy it while you're all happy about it, when you want to put him into his own bed, you will and he'll be fine' and she was totally right, we stopped worrying about what we should/shouldn't be doing, enjoyed having him in with us and he went into his own bed quite happily a few months later . DD on the otherhand doesn't appear to like her dad's farts or her mother's snoring and stays in the moses basket quite happily!

Happy birthday MrsW!! You are very good if you only abuse the chocolate on your birthday!

Tae, deal is on! LOL! You know, my DH is also turning 35, and he is my toyboy too! How funny? I think we also share anniversaries and 2nd child birthdays?! weird!

It is indeed an ugly day! But I thought it was only us, immigrants, that avoided the rain.... Aren't the natives adapted, then?

Trib, I agree with all others that you should keep going until you feel you need to change. They might complain a bit, but in the end babies are pretty adaptable. That said, I am following the "no-cry sleep solution" book suggestion. At these early stages I try to vary how I put him to sleep: one day I rock him to sleep with a pacifier; other day let him feed to sleep, other yet put him in his crib and pat, or let him cry a bit. Just so he is not too used to one unconfortable way... like my DD which for ages required me or DH to lay in the floor and pat her through the slats on her cot....That got to be pretty unconfortable after a while, and it took some crying for a few weeks to change that.

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'ola everyone

ave been away because te comuter accdentally got broken by mo. We now dont ave certan keys workng, can you guess wc ones???? slled water on t!!! And because ts a lato, ts qute buggered! Well t was an excuse to ugarde to sometng else suose.

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commas dont work eter!

Mrs Wed - only read trasy mags, Graza, eat etc etc, generally swa wt frends too to save money! And AY BRTDAY!!!!!

Baby s fne, small relatons drama gong on ere wt d. Does tat make sense???

Ok, ts keyboard s too annoyng see you all soon xxx

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Bloody hilarious Lippy No idea what you are on about but it really made me laugh. Must be frustrating for you though.

Thanks for the birthday wishes. Just to clear up any confusion, it's only on my birthday that I have chocolate for breakfast...every other day I usually wait until lunchtime

Back to Heat (have failed to find out any gossip so far I'm afraid).

happy b irthday Mrs W!! am envious of your chocolate intake - at the moment not eating sugar cos of ds colic (seems to help) but have a massive sugar craving. Have a mars bar for me!!

thanks for the advice everyone - glad to see i'm not alone.....

back to the feeding Lua - my ds is feeding every 2 hours at night too...I've just realised that he's going longer in the day - in fact he's just done 4 half hours and I don 't think he would have fed then but I had to put him d o wn to go to toilet!!! think he's making up at night what he's not taking in the day. Am w ondering how to change him around.....maybe yours is doing the same???

Your message has cheered me up after coming home from Toby's first lot of immunisations, Lippy! He screamed for England for a few mins, I was devastated, dh took the pragmatic "he'll be absolutely fine" approach. Now he's having some food and a cuddle in his favourite chair, and is, indeed, fine.

MrsW, does Heat tell you who is the thinnest celeb in Britain or something? I refuse to even open such a mag in the newsagent, although will happily read them when they make their way to the GP surgery!

Thanks for the thoughts about sleeping. We'll get a cot sorted out and then see how we are doing.

On the positive side, I have made my first solo trip out with ds in the car. Got the car seat in without too much bother, but on the way home, was in a rush because of the appointment and so the effing thing flatly refused to come off the chassis. Not helped by the fact it was peeing with rain, so I looked like a drowned rat when we eventually got to the surgery!

The 9 monther practically tore the place apart, btw He did make somewhat more use of Toby's play gym than he does, if by "use" we mean "systematically attempting to destroy it". Fortunately it has survived the process, and all the electrical leads he chewed on were ones that weren't plugged in! Also his mum asked me to heat his bottle up in the microwave I thought this was strictly forbidden?!

Lynny - for your dainty dd. Bet she looks like more of a 'lady' than my big lump! I'm sure my dd would be much more petite if she took after me, but she has very evidently got dh's genes and he is a strapping lad of irish descent and loves his guiness. She is getting heavy to heave around already - glad I cancelled the gym membership .

Red - dd has been through a few weeks of being really hard work to settle for naps and needed loads of jiggling in her buggy for a half hour nap. However, got advice from someone to put her down after her first yawn, even if she is happy and lively looking and fingers crossed this seems to work better, and she is now napping in her swing as well as the buggy, which is saving my arms! . Think the idea is to catch them just before they get overtired and at the start of their sleepy cycle (something like that anyhow).

Mrs W - happy birthday The chocolate & mags sounds ideal, hope you are having a fab self indulgent (as much as you can be) day .

Trib - I've just been swaddling dd in a 100% cotton soft flanner type cot sheet and she doesn't seem to get too hot. I try and put her down with her arms in, but invariably at least one escapes during the night , but still seems more settle than when she wasn't swaddled at all. Have given up trying to settle for naps in moses basket, so she just naps in swing or buggy for now too, like you, I will try again with cot.

Lippy - ROFL at the broken keyboard typing - please keep posting with it, made my day