June Mummies 3 - One handed typers over here!!

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A new thread.

Afternoon All

Having a top weekend. Mil & Fil up for the weekend and they have been brilliant, taken dd out for a long walk yesterday and today, and looked after her last night so dh and I nipped out for an early meal at our local morrocan restaurant. I got squiffy on 1 glass of wine . Feeling more relaxed than I have since dd born - why do I get the feeling I will pay for it in some way (mummy guilt strikes again!).

Tea & Mrs W at your ds's willy antics, read posts out to dh and his comment was that ds will never stop trying to eat his own willy .

Re feeding every 2 hours. dd seems to do this when it is hot, apparently milk is more 'watery' and thirst quenching when hot, but less filling (theory falls down if you are bottle feeding not bf though). dd is feeding every 2 -3 hours daytime, every 2 hours from about 4pm and then one late evening feed (10pm to 11pm ish), one night feed usually and has slept through until about 10am for the past 3 nights . As always though, no chicken counting going on here!

Lua - dd seems to need to nap every 1 and a half to 2 hours, but unfortunately, won't, so we have one very grumpy baby from 6pm - 9pm as she gets really overtired. Like she gets replaced with 'evil twin' at this time of night.

Berolina - as you can see from the above, snap on the daytime sleeps, we really have to 'work' to get her down, pushing in pram is the only thing that seems to work at the moment.

Mogwai - on your dh's shifts, don't know how you are coping, well done you! Re: water retention, I had v bad odema in feet, ankles & hands and it has gone now, took a while though, only got my wedding ring back on a few weeks ago. Feet seem to have grown a size permanently , so my fave pointy boots don't fit anymore .

KVG - dd does the restless thing after some feeds, I think dh has told her he wants mummy to have bigger nipples . Have you tried burping and then putting back on, as this seems to work sometimes for us.

Bubb - glad ds will have some time to wriggle his little legs about .

Hugs & good luck for tonight all.

Hiya everyone. Only two more weeks 'til the southern meet. I know I'm terribly about keeping up with the thread let alone posting on it these days. But I really am looking forward to catching up over lunch.

All is well with us. Went back to work last week and I'm actually enjoying being back. Though I am missing the kiddies. But not as bad as I expected The new nanny is doing a good job. She has some training experience as a preschool teacher and that is perfect for DD's current level of education.

Well, I never did hear from Megi. Hopefully she's run off and found something else to keep her occupied and cheer her up.

Evening ladies,

Making a concerted effort to try and log on every other day so that I can keep abreast of things otherwise by the time I've caught up I can't post as one of the kids is wanting me!

Nice to hear from the long lost strangers again (he he he I can say that smugly until it all falls down again next week and the kids won't let me on the PC again, and It'll be another week before I can even power up the pc let alone log onto anything... )

Mandy - LOL at your dh's comment - my dh said if that little boy succeeds in licking his own willy he'll be made for life!!!

Mrs W - will defo post a thread tomorrow asking the great MN for their advice re ds' and their willies - afterall I think we owe it to ourselves to be able to deal with this situation properly

Bubb - your ds does the same as my dd with the dummy - she hooks her finger between her mouth and the dummy and flings it across the room - we've managed to lose two somewhere in the house already

Regarding getting those babes to go abit longer...with my dd it works if we change her before a feed and let her have 10-15 mins kickabout time. Of course now dd associates a nappy change with food and at every nappy change she smacks her lips together in anticipation!

Uwila - looking forward to the meet aswell. In fact Trib and I have just arranged to meet up the week after next in Cambridge ... and we'd be very happy if anyone else would like to join us too if you fancy a day out...Tuesday 30th, Cambridge, no big plans yet - just lots of food somewhere, a glass or two of wine (if you feel naughty ) and loads of chat

Had better go, but received this in an email and thought there were lots of 'good apples' here...

Women are like apples on trees. The best ones are at the top of the tree. Most men don't want to reach for the good ones because they are afraid
of falling and getting hurt. Instead, they sometimes take the apples from the ground that aren't as good, but easy. The apples at the top think something is wrong with them, when in reality, they're amazing. They just have to wait for the right man to come along, the one who is brave enough to climb all the way to the top of the tree. Share this with women who are good apples, even those who have already been picked!
Now Men.... Men are like a fine wine. They begin as grapes, and it's up to women to stomp the shit out of them until they turn into something acceptable to have dinner with.

Night night, x

Morning All

Thought I would get an early post in as dd is still asleep (sshhhh - don't let her hear me say that!) .

After a really fractious day and evening, she went to sleep at 11pm and didn't wake until 6am , fed at 6 and 7.30 and is now back asleep. Really helps make up for having to carry her around almost all day and spending ages to get her to nap .

Wanted to share something with you that I found in an admittedly old Miriam Stoppard babycare book. I read it to dh after a really bad evening with dd and we both howled with laughter:

"Your baby as part of the family"
During the first few weeks of your babys life the household will revolve around him, but from then on he'll have to learn to fit in with the household and the rest of the family. It is important that your new baby learns to live with a group of people for whom there are routines, accecpted customs and modes of behaviour, quite a number of guidelines and a few rules" - I tried reading it to dd, but she just gurgled and farted at me! .

Hope I haven't broken any copyright rules there?!

So what to do on such a miserable rainy day? Any ideas that don't involve cars? What are you all up to?

morning all,

scraggy-we havent taken ds swimming yet,but we're going away in sept and dh is going to take him.think i might have to get some trunks though as the swim nappies are from 16lbs-dont want them falling off.

coop-your cleaner sounds really lovely-lucky you!
must admit,i do actually enjoy housework,but have thought a couple of times when ive been really busy "a cleaner would be nice!".im sure if i did have one though,i's probably clean before she got here-ha ha!!

mandy-i also had a couple of drinks at the weekend and felt rather light headed.must be losing my touch-used to be able to drink alot more than that.

uwila-glad the nanny has worked out well and your'e enjoying being back at work.must say,i really dont want to go back to work,but i think ive got to-needs must!

tea-we also change ds before each feed.when he was born the hospital told us that you have to otherwise babies wont take their feed,so we've always done this.it can be really annoying sometimes though as he also cries to be changed after each wee he does.sometimes we change him and literally 5 mins later he's wet so we have to change him again.must be keeping pampers in business.
yes,thats exactly what ds does with his dummy.he has also worked out how to push it back into his mouth,when its hanging out too.
lol at the "good apples".preferred the grapes though.

hi mandy-x posted!
lol at miriam and your dd.

was also wondering what to do.it hasnt started raining here,but it's on it's way.really need to go to sainsburys but dont relish having to push a buggy whilst holding a brolly.looks like we might have a day in-never mind!

Oooh Bubb - maybe your ds could show my dd how to push it back in, she tries but isn't very good at it, so I get yelled at alot!

ROFL Mandy, some kiddies just don't appreciate that we are trying to help them

Afternoon ladies! Happy 2 month-aversary to my fellow 22nd Junies. Mandy, I see our children are working in sync, Toby was a miserable bgger all day yesterday as well and had to be carried everywhere. Mummy's shoulder was the only* place he would consent to sleep. Today he has been fractious all morning so I resorted to pacing up and down outside our bedroom to wake dh up He has taken over and of course the baby has immediately calmed down and gone to sleep

Tea - apols, I haven't phoned the restaurant yet but I will do that today if I get time. Any other takers for a Cambridge meet?

No worries Trib - no hurry - just so long as we've decided by lunch time next tuesday mine is a very demanding tummy, likes to know it's gonna get food and lots of it!

Really nice to know everyone else is going through what i am - from the fact my feet have permanently gone up in size - to the two hourly feeds and a baby who wakes one million times in the night and just wants to sleep attached to my boob!!!
Have all three of my boys stuck inside today as our drive is being done and it is not physically possible even to get out for a walk - it seems like about 7 in the evening already!!!!
Take care all
XXXXX
P.S DS is 6 weeks 2morrow and is smiling widely and "saying" little things to us!!!

P.P.S - does anyone let their baby settle itself / cry for a bit when they put them to sleep for the night if you know they are fed, winded and tired etc?????????
Are babys of 6 weeks able to recognise a routine yet????
TIA

Trib - your ds sleeps on your shoulder? dd will stop crying on my shoulder but stays resolutely awake with mad staring eyes.

tessiebear - the only real routine that dd is in is that I try and feed her in bed at approx 10pm and she normally wakes for a feed in the middle of the night when I keep the lights low and only change if smelly . If she wakes for another feed before about 8am, I feed her in bed and try and get her back to sleep. Other than that, its a free for all, with me trying to persuade her that naps are good all day, whilst she ignores me, trys to stay awake and then gets the right hump at 6pm till 9pm . She is nearly 9 weeks now.

Oh yes, I'm drop and run kind of parent. I put DS in his moses basket with lights out and leave the room at 8:00. The rest of the evening is MINE MINE MINE. Sometimes he cries and wimpers for about 5 - 10 minutes. I just leave him if I know he is fed, dry, winded, warm, not too worm, etc. And he sleeps through 'til about 6:00 -- well, usually.

Tessie, I put dd in her moses basket when she's ratty coz she's tired, sometimes like Uwila says we'll get crying for about 5-10 mins, othertimes she goes straight off and sometimes she won't go off for 1/2 an hour to an hour. On those occassions we try and make it a rule never to bring her downstairs again, but rather sit up near her till she goes off - well that's the plan anyway doesn't always work that way.

BTW know what you mean about the boys and being inside...I only have one ds and very overtired dd who is woken everytime she drops off by her brother running around and screaming, grrrrrr I'm gonna go stir crazy soon!

p.s. I read my first Noddy book this week ...Tessie Bear - like it!

LOL Mandymac!!!! Uwilla - wow - what a great night that is!!!

Tessie, I am one of the nasty mums who lets DS settle himself at night. The 1st two nights I did it were hell, but the next two nights, we had 30 mins of grouchiness, then since then, he lies there perfectly happily until he sends himself off to sleep. I give him a feed at 6:30pm, put him down at 7pm, then wake him at 10:30pm for the final evening feed. I?m so glad a persevered with it. We?ve got our evenings back

I?m also quite excited as last night was the first night that DS has slept through. I gave him his 10:30pm feed, then he woke up at 7:30am . I don?t like to speak too soon, but my fingers are FIRMLY crossed for tonight?.

evening ladies
have a lot to catch up on. dd now sleeps throught the night and completely despises the concept of daytime naps, god i miss them! just little catnaps now of about 20min!!!
tomorrow she will have her second round of vaccines, cant believe its been nearly 3 months.
well be reading and catching up when i can. desperate for haircut

Hi all,
Ds has startedto have some crying time at night, but is also sleeping better. If it means a good night of sleep, I am happy to let him cry for an hour!
I took him to baby massage today. There were 12 babies in there, and only one was a girl . I t definetely looks like the pickings will be slim! Tea we still have our arrangement , right??

evening all

any northern mummies feel like joining the sheffield spa meet-up~? we're just arranging dates

spa

we're not into crying it out but then we've been lucky that neither dd's have been cryers.

Katz - the spa sounds really tempting, but it would be hard to do trip + spa and leave DS behind (specially with the current hourly visit to the boob...)
Do enjoy for me though!

BTW where should the northeners meet next?

Morning Junies

Evening from hell last night, dd only napped for about an hour and a half yesterday during daytime, then from 7pm, was screaming pretty much every time we put her down anywhere, to compound matters, she was so overwrought, that she couldn't even get latched on for feed before bedtime, so we couldn't get her to sleep until 11.30pm. . Thankfully, once she fed, she settled and apart from feeds at 4.30 and 7.45 was asleep the whole night and still is too (10am).

I'm worried that her sleeping so late in the morning is contributing to the nap problems, as she is so unsettled from 6pm to 9pm, she won't sleep, but can't get her to settle for many naps between 11am and 6pm. Does anyone think I should start trying to wake her a bit earlier? I'm loath to do so, as she obviously needs the sleep, but this is the 5th day she has slept so late and I don't want this to become a routine if it is affecting daytimes/evening in a bad way. Must say I love having a few hours to sort myself out in the morning , but it means that dh and I spend all evening tryig to calm her down .

Think I will post on sleep forum too to see what other think.

Any other junies going through this or similar?

Morning all
Had a very mixed day yesterday, terrible morning trying desperately to get out of the house, lovely time out at a parent and baby support group, and then hellish time at lunch time when we got home including massive row with DH which was awful and very unlike us , he rang to apologise and then I had a lovely afternoon with dd1 playing beautifully and dd2 sleeping and feeding well with no fuss. Had fun making up with DH too . And dd only woke twice from 10.30pm. Was exhausted lurching between emotions!
Today by comparison has been lovely. Got dd2 weighed at 13lb 4 (9wks) and got some advice about potty training and have decided to bite the bullet and no more nappies at all. Both dd's are now asleep too . Isn't it amazing how your mood can change when a darling child is sleeping. I was trying to suss out dd2's routine yesterday when it all went wrong at lunchtime which was partly what got me so upset. She was crying and dd1 needed lunch so do you leave the baby crying as making lunch will be quick or do you settle the baby which could take a while and leave dd1 hungry and mess up her nap time?? Answers on a postcard please. Do any of you second timers find that you leave the baby to cry more than you would like. Makes me but can't see a way round it sometimes.
Ref sleeping patterns Mandy I am not a very good person to ask at all. DD1 didn't sleep through until 10 months and then only intermittently. I used to b/feed her to sleep and then ended up having to do controlled crying when I got desperate for sleep. It did work but I HATED it and cried almost as much as dd1 and was more exhausted through sitting awake listening to her than I would have been just feeding her. I knew it had to stop for us though so persevered and it worked. She sleeps brilliantly now very rarely waking before 6.30am and usually after 7am.
Mandy - Your dd's lie-ins may have something to do with her lack of daytime naps and consequent overtiredness but it must be lovely to have the mornings to get sorted for the day, but to have your evenings would be nice too. I would perhaps start waking her a bit earlier each day and see how it goes. I hope someone will be able to offer some better advice. Lol at Miriam too.
I am reading Child of our Time at the moment and finding it really interesting. I am only on chapter 1 but I enjoyed the series so the girls got it for me for my birthday.
KVG - How is the baby whisperer working out?
I do try to put dd2 down for her nap while she is awake but dozy but 9 times out of 10 she cries and so I get her up and rock her, walk her or feed her to sleep. I am rubbish!
Enjoy all the meet ups! Wish I could be there. I would def be at the Cambridge one if I was home.
Jonah - Yay on your uninterupted night. Long may it continue!!!! I am off for a lie down now to catch up on some sleep. Byeeeee

Mandy - i find that if DS is awake at 7am - he has good naps and enough awake time to go down well in the evening.
I have never actually woken him at this time it has just been a coinsidence. This is also what Gina Ford reccomends (not that i follow her - but there is some logic in it)
THey do say that "sleep promots sleep" in that good sleeps in the day make for a better nights sleep
With DS1 i always thought that keeping him awake a lot in the day was the answer - and he was an awful night sleeper

Thanks for all your advice re:settling to sleep
I let him settle himself a little the last couple of nights - and he has had a lot better stretch of sleep