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Andy Burnham

103 replies

Hurrydash · 18/07/2026 01:43

He has a plan. So great to know.
Be even better to know what it is.
Is it cunning?
Does it involve turnips?
Will he present time team when Labour is annihilated in 2029?
Wow the suspense😀

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sunshinesuzey · 18/07/2026 01:46

I can't wait to hear this plan (sarcasm) 🙄

justinhawkinsnavalfluff · 18/07/2026 01:48

Whatever it is it will be better than Farage and the flag shaggers.

sunshinesuzey · 18/07/2026 01:50

justinhawkinsnavalfluff · 18/07/2026 01:48

Whatever it is it will be better than Farage and the flag shaggers.

Both are unknown quantities, so let's just wait and see, shall we ?

Imdunfer · 18/07/2026 10:06

I love his vision, I just don't think he has the money he will need to carry it out.

"Manchesterism" was achieved with private sector funding, and in the last 2 years Labour have disincentivised similar investment.

I also don't like how he is being feted, he isn't a messiah. We visited Liverpool recently and that has also improved massively in the time that Burnham was mayor of Manchester. So how much of "Manchesterism" was really of Burnham's doing and how much was due to business recognising the opportunities in the northern cities, in a business climate which was then being managed by the Tories?

Burnham was outraged by the renationalised Northern Rail still using fax machines to communicate with train drivers, yet he was unable to fix that. (Same old story with unions in the public sector, the union wants more money to make their drivers' jobs easier). How does he propose to fix the country?

sunshinesuzey · 18/07/2026 11:01

Now this is just common sense, but I thought you were supposed to stick with your Manifesto?

It seems Andy Burnham is set to announce plans for new North Sea oil and gas drilling when he enters Downing Street next week.
The Labour leader will turn his back on the 2024 manifesto, which had pledged not to issue new licences but to honour existing ones.

Proposals to issue more licences have been at the centre of a debate between Labour figures, with many arguing that expanding renewable energy will reduce the impact of climate change and guarantee energy security.
However, others have urged the party to take a more liberal approach to energy, warning the transition away from oil and gas must protect jobs and the cost of energy bills.

BIossomtoes · 18/07/2026 17:34

Jackdaw and Rosebank were both approved by the Tories. They’re not new plans so the objection to them could be rescinded without breaking the 2024 manifesto. As always the devil is in the detail.

Binnyforthewin · 20/07/2026 09:55

Looking forward to hearing the plan! Currently it feels like we are all on a bus but with no idea where we are going.

Binnyforthewin · 20/07/2026 12:57

He's has really just said he is not going to tell us the plan until later in the year??????????

BIossomtoes · 20/07/2026 12:59

Binnyforthewin · 20/07/2026 12:57

He's has really just said he is not going to tell us the plan until later in the year??????????

How many threads are you going to post that on?

NickyIslington · 20/07/2026 13:03

Everyone is scared he’s going to fleece people that work and try to improve themselves. À sort of downwardly mobile thrust to add to the current slump.

Binnyforthewin · 20/07/2026 13:06

BIossomtoes · 20/07/2026 12:59

How many threads are you going to post that on?

I'm fucking annoyed with the void that Labour are leaving. He is going to give an instruction to eradicate rough sleeping? Rough sleeping increased in Manchester under his watch. And that little slimeball Simmons was right next to him.

Binnyforthewin · 20/07/2026 13:06

NickyIslington · 20/07/2026 13:03

Everyone is scared he’s going to fleece people that work and try to improve themselves. À sort of downwardly mobile thrust to add to the current slump.

The Tories levels up, Labour levels down.

Brightlittlecanary · 20/07/2026 13:07

I am so dismayed, his first instruction, end rough sleeping. How fucking clueless can you get,

Nanda66 · 20/07/2026 13:08

Binnyforthewin · 20/07/2026 13:06

I'm fucking annoyed with the void that Labour are leaving. He is going to give an instruction to eradicate rough sleeping? Rough sleeping increased in Manchester under his watch. And that little slimeball Simmons was right next to him.

I thought the comment about issuing an instruction to end rough sleeping was supremely arrogant. He’s not supposed to be a dictator, he should be asking his team to develop a plan.

Binnyforthewin · 20/07/2026 13:10

Nanda66 · 20/07/2026 13:08

I thought the comment about issuing an instruction to end rough sleeping was supremely arrogant. He’s not supposed to be a dictator, he should be asking his team to develop a plan.

To be fair making rough sleeping illegal is really taking the fight to Reform.

BIossomtoes · 20/07/2026 13:16

Binnyforthewin · 20/07/2026 13:10

To be fair making rough sleeping illegal is really taking the fight to Reform.

He didn’t say anything about making it illegal.

Binnyforthewin · 20/07/2026 13:22

Nanda66 · 20/07/2026 13:08

I thought the comment about issuing an instruction to end rough sleeping was supremely arrogant. He’s not supposed to be a dictator, he should be asking his team to develop a plan.

Almost Trumpian with his Executive Orders.

BoredZelda · 20/07/2026 13:25

sunshinesuzey · 18/07/2026 01:50

Both are unknown quantities, so let's just wait and see, shall we ?

Farage is definitely more “known” in what his aims and objectives are. Those who say he is unknown are likely to be the ones who fall foul of his policies and then claim “I didn’t think he meant it” or “he wasn’t supposed to do that to me!”

BoredZelda · 20/07/2026 13:26

Binnyforthewin · 20/07/2026 13:22

Almost Trumpian with his Executive Orders.

It’s not even close to being similar to that.

Monty36 · 20/07/2026 13:26

I hope he does some positive things. That improve Britain.

I agree with his renationalising public services that should never have been privatised. I agree with the need for council housing. Should never have been sold off.

And rough sleeping is hard to eradicate. He has reduced it in Manchester. Which is commendable. But almost impossible to eradicate.

Where I don’t agree with him is on regionalisation. And giving more powers to the regions.

But I do hope for a Government that does something good for people.

Who is in the team will matter much.

Monty36 · 20/07/2026 13:27

Binnyforthewin · 20/07/2026 13:22

Almost Trumpian with his Executive Orders.

How setting out a wish to end rough sleeping could be construed as arrogant I have no idea !

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 20/07/2026 13:32

Nanda66 · 20/07/2026 13:08

I thought the comment about issuing an instruction to end rough sleeping was supremely arrogant. He’s not supposed to be a dictator, he should be asking his team to develop a plan.

Yes how can you issue an instruction to end rough sleeping? How is he going to do that? That will be the first question. How much extra money is he going to give to local authorities to implement drug and alcohol addiction services? Many of them are reform, who couldn't run a bath. He couldn't do it in Manchester yet thinks he can do it throughout the country.

Nanda66 · 20/07/2026 13:32

Monty36 · 20/07/2026 13:27

How setting out a wish to end rough sleeping could be construed as arrogant I have no idea !

It’s an admirable ambition but he didn’t set out a wish, he said he would issue an instruction.

I also think it sounds more like the sort of thing I would expect a mayor to say and focus on rather than the first priority for a PM.

concertinacornflake · 20/07/2026 13:35

Imdunfer · 18/07/2026 10:06

I love his vision, I just don't think he has the money he will need to carry it out.

"Manchesterism" was achieved with private sector funding, and in the last 2 years Labour have disincentivised similar investment.

I also don't like how he is being feted, he isn't a messiah. We visited Liverpool recently and that has also improved massively in the time that Burnham was mayor of Manchester. So how much of "Manchesterism" was really of Burnham's doing and how much was due to business recognising the opportunities in the northern cities, in a business climate which was then being managed by the Tories?

Burnham was outraged by the renationalised Northern Rail still using fax machines to communicate with train drivers, yet he was unable to fix that. (Same old story with unions in the public sector, the union wants more money to make their drivers' jobs easier). How does he propose to fix the country?

Steve Rotherham/Liverpool followed much the same approach as Andy Burnham/Manchester, they wrote a book (Head North) together about their policy approaches.

Monty36 · 20/07/2026 13:36

Nanda66 · 20/07/2026 13:32

It’s an admirable ambition but he didn’t set out a wish, he said he would issue an instruction.

I also think it sounds more like the sort of thing I would expect a mayor to say and focus on rather than the first priority for a PM.

Something tells me whatever he said or did you would find something about it that displeased you. Nanda 66.