Andy Burnham

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He has a plan. So great to know.
Be even better to know what it is.
Is it cunning?
Does it involve turnips?
Will he present time team when Labour is annihilated in 2029?
Wow the suspense😀

@C8H10N4O2

What are the criteria for social housing? I have asked this previously. I didn't get a reply.

Our local social housing is run by a housing trust. There's literally thousands of new houses being built by us. 1,300 estate being built. We have had 2 years of disruption. Most of them are over 500k. There's a few social housing. Once those are built, another 700 are being built 2 miles away.

There's plenty of private housing to rent. What is the difference between renting privately and having a council house?

@HarshbutTrue2 "What are the criteria for social housing? I have asked this previously. I didn't get a reply."

I think it varies according to Local Authority.

This may help - https://www.lincshomefinder.co.uk/content/Using_this_service/Whocanapply

What is the difference between renting privately and having a council house?

• security of tenancy
• cost
• rights as tenant

What is an outdoor cabin? I haven't got one.

I have got more than one spare bedroom. I worked hard and bought and paid for them. They occasionally have guests in them. They belong to me and I don't want strangers in them. I pay plenty of council tax for them and keep them heated etc.

I don't have spare en suite bathrooms so I doubt anyone would want to rent one of my rooms anyway.

Yes let's give him a chance. People just want him to fail how about hoping he will succeed

I actually agree with some of this. I used to know a few people who lived in council houses. Some bought their council houses, some bought a house elsewhere. The most memorable one bought a huge house with land in the countryside, because he couldn't fit his rolls royce on the drive of his council house. He asked the council to widen the drive, but they refused.

People who do not have a big family should not have a large council house. It is social housing. It does not belong to them, it is for the good of society in general. In years gone by oldies got moved from council houses into council flats. I wouldn't really like to see a return to those days.
There used to be small council bungalows for oldies, these seem to be used by disabled persons now. Maybe we need to build more of these.

@HarshbutTrue2

I pay plenty of council tax for them and keep them heated etc.

Council tax might be lower if councils weren’t spending money on hotels if people used the rent a room scheme.

My outdoor cabin is a log cabin. Has enough space for bed, tv, sitting area. Could cook on the log burner if needed.

The new laws that Labour are bringing in are guaranteeing all of the above.
Many landlords are trying to get out because of the laws.
I believe a Labour mp was in breach of the laws.

As regards cost, why should some people get cheaper houses than others? Is there a new hierarchy now, those in private rented are somehow better/richer than those who live in council houses?

When Thatcher sold off the council houses it was a very popular move. In the 80s lots of people were aspirational. They were proud to own their own property. They built extensions. I think a lot bought new front doors, to distinguish themselves from their neighbours who still rented.

Unfortunately, Thatcher failed to realise that not all sectors of society had the gumption, aspirations or capability to own their own home.

Thatcher also failed, probably wilfully, to understand that everyone should be able to have a safe, warm, affordable roof over their head in one of the richest countries on earth. A house is an essential for everyone. It should never be a cash cow.

A lot of those former council house tenants sold up as soon as they could and the houses are now privately let. Not much aspirational about that, more exploitative.

Derogatory term Oldies very disrespectful of you.

All the ones I knew who bought their council houses stayed in them. I know someone who is living in her parents council house, which they had bought. She inherited it.

Most of the people I knew with purchased council houses stayed in them until they died. Obviously, their kids usually sold the houses after their deaths. That's what kids normally do when a parent dies.

A lot of those ex council houses in our area are now owned by a housing trust. Some are private landlords, some are bought as family homes.

GMB has just explained that social housing is for people on low incomes. 11% of social housing occupants are foreigners.

Not nearly as derogatory as all the mumsnetters who hate oldies, wish they were dead, begrudge them their pension and can't wait to grab their in-laws money.

I am an oldie myself. I don't mind the term. I do not see myself as a senior citizen, or a pensioner or any other term you'd like to use. Im simply a person who is older than a lot of the population. But I've still got a long way to go.

I never hated my parents. I never begrudged them the money which they worked hard for. I simply went out and worked hard to earn my own money.

@HarshbutTrue2

I simply went out and worked hard to earn my own money.

Me too. When I was at school I did a milk round four mornings per week Pay was £1.20 per morning (1979) and £2 for Saturdays. So, £5.60 per week. I gave my mother £3 to help with groceries.

During summer holidays, I worked a 60 hour week for £1.93 per hour with uplifts for overtime and Saturday. Take home was about £80 per week (1981). I gave my mother £30

Ah, the good old days...