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Ann Widdecombe Thread 2

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dapsnotplimsolls · 11/07/2026 11:48

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nomas · 13/07/2026 17:45

heinzfiftyseven · 13/07/2026 17:42

@nomas I support Freedom of religion but not Fundamentalism.

What is your evidence that the festival was fundamentalist?

JulietteHasAGun · 13/07/2026 17:45

heinzfiftyseven · 13/07/2026 17:17

That isn't swamping a small village, because it's held at a farm.

I think the people of Pilton might disagree. My friends mum lives there, she feels swamped.

nomas · 13/07/2026 17:47

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Far-right extremists outnumber Islamists in anti-terror programme referrals, data shows | UK security and counter-terrorism | The Guardian

In total, 8,778 referrals were made because of suspicions of extremist radicalisation in the year to March 2025,

Of the 8,769 referrals where the type of concern is specified, 21%, or 1,798 cases, were due to “extreme rightwing concerns”; 10%, or 870, were referrals connected to Islamist ideology; and 56%, or 4,917, were for individuals judged to have no identified ideology.

Far-right extremists outnumber Islamists in anti-terror programme referrals, data shows

Total referrals reach record high, with 21% being due to ‘extreme rightwing concerns’ and 10% to Islamist ideology

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/nov/06/far-right-extremists-outnumber-islamists-prevent-anti-terror-referrals-data

heinzfiftyseven · 13/07/2026 17:51

nomas · 13/07/2026 17:45

What is your evidence that the festival was fundamentalist?

It was organised by a fundamentalist mosque, did you miss that bit from the daily Mail article?

"A Suffolk town is expecting up to 100,000 Muslim pilgrims to descend on it for a festival planned by a fundamentalist mosque."

Theworldsgonemadagain · 13/07/2026 17:54

nomas · 13/07/2026 17:47

Far-right extremists outnumber Islamists in anti-terror programme referrals, data shows | UK security and counter-terrorism | The Guardian

In total, 8,778 referrals were made because of suspicions of extremist radicalisation in the year to March 2025,

Of the 8,769 referrals where the type of concern is specified, 21%, or 1,798 cases, were due to “extreme rightwing concerns”; 10%, or 870, were referrals connected to Islamist ideology; and 56%, or 4,917, were for individuals judged to have no identified ideology.

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The guardian 😂 try using a legitimate source

Triskellion75 · 13/07/2026 17:55

Beachtastic · 11/07/2026 14:10

Dartmoor is a funny old place, full of loners and strays. There was a TV documentary once about oddball blokes who wander off there and live off roadkill etc. In fact I once went out with one! (before he started eating roadkill I mean)

Oh my God, I remember that doc. Didn't one of them use to leave fake abusive messages on his own answering machine?

LuckyHazelFox · 13/07/2026 17:55

Same old hijacking of a thread for one's own personal means. Every single thread.

LuckyHazelFox · 13/07/2026 17:56

heinzfiftyseven · 13/07/2026 17:51

It was organised by a fundamentalist mosque, did you miss that bit from the daily Mail article?

"A Suffolk town is expecting up to 100,000 Muslim pilgrims to descend on it for a festival planned by a fundamentalist mosque."

I really wouldn't bother. Agree with all of your posts.

heinzfiftyseven · 13/07/2026 17:56

nomas · 13/07/2026 17:44

So only Christian events should be allowed?

I never said that, so please don't make stuff up.

nomas · 13/07/2026 17:57

heinzfiftyseven · 13/07/2026 17:51

It was organised by a fundamentalist mosque, did you miss that bit from the daily Mail article?

"A Suffolk town is expecting up to 100,000 Muslim pilgrims to descend on it for a festival planned by a fundamentalist mosque."

It's not a fundamentalist event, it's a festival for 'reflection and spiritual renewal'.

Islamic event in Suffolk ends early after 'possible threat' - BBC News

But I think you know that.

nomas · 13/07/2026 17:57

Theworldsgonemadagain · 13/07/2026 17:54

The guardian 😂 try using a legitimate source

Like what? The Daily Mail? GB News? Talk TV?

BackToLurk · 13/07/2026 17:58

Theworldsgonemadagain · 13/07/2026 17:54

The guardian 😂 try using a legitimate source

Calm down. They’re the government’s figures.

Theworldsgonemadagain · 13/07/2026 17:58

Theworldsgonemadagain · 13/07/2026 17:54

The guardian 😂 try using a legitimate source

And referrals don't count the actual threat just the ones refrerred. M15 have clearly stated their caseload is 75% islamist. I wonder whose referring them, schools, we had a whole thing about prevent and reporting right wing ideologys at our school, scant mention of islamists. The left-wing apologist guardian won't report the real facts. Why are you more concerned about right wing terrorism when you know the much higher threat is Islamist. Its not about pretending to be nice and tolerant it's the actual real risk factor to the citizens of this country.

nomas · 13/07/2026 17:58

LuckyHazelFox · 13/07/2026 17:55

Same old hijacking of a thread for one's own personal means. Every single thread.

Yes, it's a shame @heinzfiftyseven hijacked the thread to exclaim that only Christian events should be allowed.

Theworldsgonemadagain · 13/07/2026 17:59

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heinzfiftyseven · 13/07/2026 17:59

nomas · 13/07/2026 17:58

Yes, it's a shame @heinzfiftyseven hijacked the thread to exclaim that only Christian events should be allowed.

Please stop promulgating misinformation.

LuckyHazelFox · 13/07/2026 17:59

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😆 🤣

nicepotoftea · 13/07/2026 17:59

nomas · 13/07/2026 17:44

So only Christian events should be allowed?

and Christian fundamentalists? Do they get a pass because we are a ‘Christian country’?

nomas · 13/07/2026 18:00

heinzfiftyseven · 13/07/2026 17:56

I never said that, so please don't make stuff up.

So what did you mean when you said Big Church should be encouraged as we're a Christian country? Whilst you approve of attempts to shut down an Islamic event?

nomas · 13/07/2026 18:01

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Didn't take long. Every single time.

heinzfiftyseven · 13/07/2026 18:01

nicepotoftea · 13/07/2026 17:59

and Christian fundamentalists? Do they get a pass because we are a ‘Christian country’?

No.
I have already said I don't support Fundamentalism.
Please try and keep up.

Theworldsgonemadagain · 13/07/2026 18:02

nomas · 13/07/2026 18:01

Didn't take long. Every single time.

  • Since January 2020, MI5 and the police have disrupted 19 late-stage attack plots
  • in the UK.
  • It is almost certain that Islamist terrorism remains the primary terrorist threat to the UK at this time, accounting for approximately 75% of MI5″s counterterrorism caseload.
  • It is highly likely that any terrorist attack conducted in the UK at this time would be conducted by an individual or a small cell using a low sophistication methodology. E.g., Bladed or Blunt Force Weapon, Vehicle as a Weapon, Fire as a Weapon, etc.
  • There is a realistic possibility that terrorist actors in the UK could have the capability to conduct a high sophistication attack at this time. E.g., Improvised Explosive Device (IED), or Firearms attack. The complicated nature of plotting a high sophistication terrorist attack makes it highly likely that there will be greater opportunity for UK police and security services to disrupt potential attacks.
  • There is a remote chance that any terrorist actor would currently have the capability to conduct a significant terrorist attack using cyber means in the UK.
  • There is a remote chance that any terrorist actor would currently have the capability to conduct a high-sophistication CBRN attack due to the significant barriers which currently exist in the acquisition, production, and delivery of CBRN agents 4

But but but what about what about Tommy Robinson. ..... 👀

heinzfiftyseven · 13/07/2026 18:04

nomas · 13/07/2026 18:00

So what did you mean when you said Big Church should be encouraged as we're a Christian country? Whilst you approve of attempts to shut down an Islamic event?

What utter rubbish are you spouting?
The Islamic event was shut down by the police because of threats to the participants, not because it was Islamic.

TemperanceWest · 13/07/2026 18:05

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Using that term as an insult says a lot about you. None of it is good.

nomas · 13/07/2026 18:05

heinzfiftyseven · 13/07/2026 18:04

What utter rubbish are you spouting?
The Islamic event was shut down by the police because of threats to the participants, not because it was Islamic.

You're the one who agreed with the locals trying to get the Islamic event cancelled...

And yet you're happy for the Big Church event to be promoted as we're a Christian country.

They're your views, read the chain.

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