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Ann Widdecombe Thread 2

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dapsnotplimsolls · 11/07/2026 11:48

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Dollymylove · 13/07/2026 13:18

Counter terrorism has now taken over the investigation

AlwaysRightISwear · 13/07/2026 13:19

Very interesting.

puyr · 13/07/2026 13:21

yep, counter terrorism have taken over. For those who said we were all desperate for it to be a terrorist incident: no, we weren’t. Tasteless to say so. However, the stated facts all pointed towards terrorism.

TemperanceWest · 13/07/2026 13:21

Wasn't expecting that, tbh.

GoneWithTHeWindJammers · 13/07/2026 13:21

How can the wider public be safe, if it's terror related?

TemperanceWest · 13/07/2026 13:23

GoneWithTHeWindJammers · 13/07/2026 13:21

How can the wider public be safe, if it's terror related?

Because the alleged perpetrator is in custody?

YourBrightDog · 13/07/2026 13:23

Suspect in custody now rearrested on suspicion of planning, commission of terrorism. The search of his property seems to have produced evidence to change the direction of investigation.

EasternStandard · 13/07/2026 13:23

TemperanceWest · 13/07/2026 11:51

I have acknowledged that MN makes money out of me posting here. More than once. I am not sure why you are making this so personal.

I wish nobody was monetising Ann Widdecombe's murder or making political capital from it. But sadly we don't live in that kind of world.

Why don’t you view your initial posts as personal?

If posters point out the media monetise talk then mn is included.

EasternStandard · 13/07/2026 13:24

Just heard this on the radio.

LuckyHazelFox · 13/07/2026 13:24

Dollymylove · 13/07/2026 13:18

Counter terrorism has now taken over the investigation

Hmmmmm.

YourBrightDog · 13/07/2026 13:25

Apparently Ann's house was on tv less than a week ago in a repeat of some property programme.

dottyshihtzu · 13/07/2026 13:26

GoneWithTHeWindJammers · 13/07/2026 13:21

How can the wider public be safe, if it's terror related?

I was just wondering that, why did the police say there was no risk to the public before they'd arrested the suspect and before they even knew the motive?

MindThePause · 13/07/2026 13:27

GoneWithTHeWindJammers · 13/07/2026 13:21

How can the wider public be safe, if it's terror related?

It depends on what kind of terrorism it is.

Religious, political, old ideology, more recent ideology.

And why her.

We will know when they are sure. At which point we may wish we were still enjoying the luxury of ignorance because knowing may not ease the shock, but instead make it worse.

TemperanceWest · 13/07/2026 13:27

EasternStandard · 13/07/2026 13:23

Why don’t you view your initial posts as personal?

If posters point out the media monetise talk then mn is included.

Honestly eastern, just drop it now. You've made your point several times over about MN monetising and I have stated several times that yes, this is the case and I am aware of it and of my part in it. I am not sure what else you are hoping for.

EasternStandard · 13/07/2026 13:29

TemperanceWest · 13/07/2026 13:27

Honestly eastern, just drop it now. You've made your point several times over about MN monetising and I have stated several times that yes, this is the case and I am aware of it and of my part in it. I am not sure what else you are hoping for.

Well you initiated the conversation with remarks on the the DM. As you know I’m very happy not to engage on threads.

LuckyHazelFox · 13/07/2026 13:29

It's been a long time coming for IRGC to be proscribed as terrorists, BTW..

WearyAuldWumman · 13/07/2026 13:30

GoneWithTHeWindJammers · 11/07/2026 12:35

Obviously, if you used the pepper spray, you would have to justify the use as reasonable force.

What's the old saying? "Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6."

Viviennemary · 13/07/2026 13:32

Dollymylove · 13/07/2026 13:18

Counter terrorism has now taken over the investigation

I kept saying the police said they were keeping an open mind. I also saw that Ann's house was on TV the week before.

EasternStandard · 13/07/2026 13:33

dottyshihtzu · 13/07/2026 13:26

I was just wondering that, why did the police say there was no risk to the public before they'd arrested the suspect and before they even knew the motive?

The police and politicians try to manage the public, they did this with Southport, Henry Nowak and early insistence there was no suggestion of terrorism in this case.

Unfortunately each time it erodes trust in public statements.

YourBrightDog · 13/07/2026 13:38

EasternStandard · 13/07/2026 13:33

The police and politicians try to manage the public, they did this with Southport, Henry Nowak and early insistence there was no suggestion of terrorism in this case.

Unfortunately each time it erodes trust in public statements.

But if at the time of speaking there is no evidence to back up terrorist or political motive the police should be able to say so. I thought the police statements made it clear that there was no evidence AT THAT TIME to suggest. Now clearly evidence and or information has come to light.

saraclara · 13/07/2026 13:41

YourBrightDog · 13/07/2026 13:38

But if at the time of speaking there is no evidence to back up terrorist or political motive the police should be able to say so. I thought the police statements made it clear that there was no evidence AT THAT TIME to suggest. Now clearly evidence and or information has come to light.

That. At no point did the police say any of those things with certainty. "there doesn't appear to be any connections to .... at this point" was the general wording.

Bloozie · 13/07/2026 13:41

YourBrightDog · 13/07/2026 13:38

But if at the time of speaking there is no evidence to back up terrorist or political motive the police should be able to say so. I thought the police statements made it clear that there was no evidence AT THAT TIME to suggest. Now clearly evidence and or information has come to light.

I agree. The public has been kept informed as far as we need to be kept informed. This desire for armchair retribution, the public NEEDS to know. No we don't. We need to let people get on with doing their job without 67 million people giving their opinion on it and demanding real time updates. This is a murder investigation. It will take time. Motives will become apparent, and then we will hear about them. At first there was no evidence. Now there is. It really isn't difficult to understand unless you're wilfully looking to view the investigation through a certain, cynical, lens.

We are so bloody impatient. And we cannot be trusted not to lose our heads with information and go and burn down some innocent party's house in retribution.

Gengha · 13/07/2026 13:42

Very strange. No statement that he’s been charged with murder yet so wondering if either anyone else is involved or the new arrest is to buy more time? Not sure if that’s even possible. Totally horrific if someone drove all that way to do that.

placemats · 13/07/2026 13:43

As you know I’m very happy not to engage on threads.

Yet you @EasternStandard are dogged in getting the last word in, slavishly so.

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