Change law to kick out Rochdale rapist, No 10 urged

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Reported in The Telegraph that Labour is facing mounting pressure to change immigration laws immediately so that a child rapist freed from jail can be deported.

Shabir Ahmed, 73, was sentenced to more than 20 years in jail after being convicted of 30 child rape offences as part of the Rochdale grooming gang.

But on Thursday, the Pakistan-born rapist was released after serving 14 years.

Britain stripped him of his citizenship, but cannot currently deport him because of protections granted to Commonwealth immigrants such as Ahmed under the Immigration Act 1971.

On Thursday, Downing Street said the Prime Minister had asked Shabana Mahmood, the Home Secretary, to “consider what can be done” to deport Ahmed, describing his case as “particularly heinous”.

It comes after Andy Burnham, expected to succeed Sir Keir Starmer as prime minister, also vowed to “review all options” to deport the "vile criminal".

The amendment to Ms Mahmood’s immigration bill will propose rewriting the 1971 act to permit the removal of serious criminals such as Ahmed.

However, even if an amendment were to pass, two senior Pakistani government officials told The Telegraph that the country would not accept Ahmed back because he renounced his Pakistani citizenship “several decades ago”.

They added that he posed a danger to Pakistani children.

If their claim is correct, it places Ahmed in the same situation as two other freed Pakistani ringleaders of the Rochdale grooming gang whom Pakistan has refused to take back.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/07/02/deport-foreign-born-child-rapists-demand-labour-mps/

He was also convicted of 30 counts of abuse against an Asian girl from the age of 3, so probably a family member. Its shocking that he's been released so soon. What does it take to get a whole life sentence?!

It is incredibly insulting that you seek to justify using British women and girls as a shield. The UK government's highest responsibility is to protect UK citizens - they have absolutely no right to sacrifice them 'for the greater good'.

The UK is not the dustbin of the world.

Ahmed does not belong here.

He came here, was given UK nationality - a huge privilege - and fucked it up. Fucked the UK over.

The Tate brothers were dual national UK-US from birth, with an American father and a British mother.

They left Romania of their own will, but if Romania had decided to imprison them and then deport them, then yes - I'd expect the US and the UK to both accept them.

The UK have actually asked the US to extradite them to the UK to face charges here, so we're certainly taking responsibility for our citizens (even though they are dual national from birth).

Coming as a child does not give any kind of natural right to stay as an adult.

Many countries don't give visas to children once they reach 18, when they came on their parents visa.

The UK's visa system is ridiculously lenient. The chain of 'family reunification' is a travesty.

Some of the things that are happening are crazy. I wonder if they are intended to stoke division and resentment or if we're just supposed to not mind?

Our government and its lawyers have just allowed a Palestinian woman to bring in 18 family members through family reunification. At a time when all our public services are stretched.

Then they fail to deport foreign nationals who have committed crimes, including violent and sexual crimes. The lawyers are all over it, busting a gut to make sure these people stay in the UK. Crazy.

Yes, exactly. Seems like the UK plays fair but other countries just take advantage.

We shouldn't be the dustbin of the world. But I fear that's exactly what we've become. All the clever lawyers have stitched us up so that we have incredibly dangerous people walking among us, who either shouldn't be here or we should be able to get rid of.

I don't know whether the givernment and human rights lawyers push for the UK to be flooded by people who will never contribute, and have a far higher incidence of offending than the native population because:

a) They hate us, and think anyone non-British is better and more worthy

b) Are just driven by greed and pride to win the most outrageous cases to prove how amazing they are (and get paid big bucks for it. By us. The British people they are harming)

c) Think like children, wanting everyone in the world to have everything like one big happy family, with no idea of reality or consequences.

Whichever it is, I despise them for the harm they do us.

Personally I put it down to mainly B and in particular the money they get paid for it.

I think you're right for most human rights lawyers.

But for others - especially in the government - I think it's a mix of a and c.

How else can you explain the government taking legal action to try to overturn a ruling by the Information Commissioner to release incidence of crime by nationality?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/938a67247599650e

We already know from a previous FOI request (by the Telegraph I think) that it's terrible, with sex offences in particular much, much higher by certain nationalities than by native British men.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/d07a9d60a5759453

Why are the government trying to stop that information from coming out? We will obviously want it to be acted on, eg by changing visa allocations and asylum, based on the actual real evidence of risk (rather than some fairytale of diversity being our strength)

But if the government were actually on the side of the British people, wouldn't they want that too?

Evidence-based policy should surely be the aim... if they were on our side.

It is true though - the girls he used (both white and brown) were typical of the girls exploited by other gangs. They were girls the gang could confidently assume nobody with authority cared about.

Its not an accident that they were not targeting middle class girls with professional parents. This wasn’t just a freak failure on the part of one social worker or police officer - it was a systemic attitude that the girls were not important or were themselves at fault. Some of the girls were prosecuted and have records for prostitution offences despite their being under age at the time.

If the societal and organisational attitudes to these girls had been different we would not be having this thread and the likes of Ahmed would have been in jail after their first offences.

Agree 100%. All we can conclude is that they are not on our side and want to hide the truth from us.

I think they're all globalists. Tories because they want to feed their friends in big business with cheap labour. Labour because they see immigrants, refugees and ethnic minorities as their voter base.

Very telling that Burnham's first pronouncement was support for Gaza.

They're insulated from the downsides of their policies and they're so out of touch they don't realise that many ethnic minorities also oppose these policies which harm our country.

One of the main drivers for the failure to deal with this issue was the fear of being accused of racism and Islamaphobia. The Casey report confirmed this.

The public sector is infested with this attitude. Clan based CSE has been largely carried out by a culture that has been imported into the UK. Yes, the girls were let down because they were working class, but also because those who should have protected them were paralysed by fear of being called racist or Islamophobic.

the girls he used (both white and brown)

Predominantly white, and a very few Sikh.

Can we please stop pretending that race and religion weren't intrinsic to these horrific crimes against British children. It's insulting. And it's ridiculous.

For the government I think it's largely d) wanting the Muslim vote

Yes, I agree with this. That's why Andy Burnham's first pronouncement was to show support for Gaza. They now see the Muslim vote as their core support and are worried they'll go over to the Greens or set up independent candidates, both of which has happened.

I thinks it's mistaken, though. All it does is increase resentment towards Muslims and ethnic minorities generally. I listen to a lot of phone-ins where many ethnic minority people want a hard line taken against criminals, including deportation.

Well exactly. Because every ethnic minority person suffers from hostility caused by well meaning people turning a blind eye to criminals. Women suffer when misogynistic men in their community are pandered to.

Muslim people are like what, 6% of the Uk population? that's a very tiny core if that's who any party relies on!
And Muslim people don't all vote the same way, even if you get 67% of Muslims to vote for Labour, that's down to 4% of voters.

Not that tiny when current voting intention for Labour is 20%

And Reform is 23%

Just 3% in it...

https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/55205-voting-intention-19-20-july-2026-ref-23-con-21-lab-20-grn-14-ld-12

They are also very highly concentrated in a few constituencies. Virtually all Labour.

I don't think it's fair to put all the blame on "us" as in British culture and laws etc.

Fair

Presumably his family need to take a great deal of responsibility for shaping him.

Also fair.

But, does he not have responsibility? I mean - he was not a child when he committed the crimes. And he hid them, clearly demonstrating that he knew full well what he was doing was wrong.

The assets of the perpetrators of all sexual crime should be seized in my opinion, along with that of the immediate and extended family.

The threat of certain poverty to all adjacent is a powerful motivator and would certainly empower those who around these people to band together and speak up.

The assets should be distributed to the victims of the crime, or at the very least pay for their housing, therapy, rehabilitation etc.

Prison for one is not enough.

along with that - THOSE!

Oh yes he should take a lot of personal responsibility too, of course. Not that he will as he sounds a very sick individual.

It's completely perverse to put any of the blame on British culture and laws.

People of Pakistani heritage make up about 2.5% to 2.8% of the overall UK population. If the grooming gang crimes were a result of British culture, then only 2.5 - 2.8% of the rapists would be of Pakistani heritage.

But despite the police's attempts to hide it, it's very clear that they are almost all of Pakistani heritage.

Hundreds of thousands of children raped in dozens of towns and cities. This isn't some little, local aberration.

Why are posters on here still trying to twist out of the truth? Why do they hate their own country and their own people so much?

That's the part of British culture which is to blame, if any. A fetishisation of the non-white and the non-normative. An attempt by 'progressives' to make themselves more interesting by elevating absolutely anyone above boring old white British people.

It has to stop.

And for the avoidance of doubt - yes, the individuals who committed these horrific crimes are entirely responsible for their actions. Entirely to blame.

Their culture may have encouraged them to think of white girls as worthless, but that in no way absolves them of their personal responsibility.

Most people - despite the same cultural influences - do not groom and rape children.

Disgraceful and I presume she's going to push back on this.

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