Starmer's resigned

[Sadcafe]

So the admittedly boring but truly decent PM has announced his resignation and the egotistical, pompous Burnham will doubtless become PM. God help the country

I voted for the Party, not the leader.
Sick of all this "personality" politics we seem to have got used to with "Boris" etc.
Hope Andy Burnham does a great job if he becomes PM and doesn't get sucked into all the baying noise.

Corbyn was one of Labour’s longest serving prep school nepo babies who never even served on a select committee . That might be ok for a constituency MP (at which he was very well regarded by constituents) but not for party leader. He was never able to negotiate and be pragmatic - both essential skills. He was little more than the mouthpiece for Milne and Lansdowne et all and my opinion of them was voiced very well by Alan Johnson.

McDonnell might have done better if given a free hand away from Momentum but suffered the disadvantages of being actually WC and Irish.

This is Labour’s gig. I’m sure they’ll try to sell him in to you.

He will be worse because he thinks he isn"t controlled by bond markets.

Of course they did. From partygate onwards. Sunak used a debit card and the press and mn leapt on it. It was great for Starmer when it benefited him.

In any case the cheering from Labour MPs at Burnham’s signing in show how happy they are Starmer’s gone. This is their doing rather than the media. That’s just a handy excuse.

yet based on the public so far and their choices, is that truely the best course for the country at this moment ?

They don't have to be in the Cabinet to have influence.

I missed the point of Sunak's debit card. What was that about please.

Is it Labour you despise or just Starmer? Or don't you really know?

If you think his friends and political compatriots aren't using the algorithms on their social media platforms to cram his message down their users' throats, you're either not looking very hard or don't understand how social media works.

It's more obvious in US politics, but it's the same dynamic here.

I can’t help but feel a bit bad for KS. I think he is on balance a decent and sensible man who has clearly worked hard to obtain his position in life, wouldn’t have caused us a moment of scandal and held on for as long as he could to his dream job. Ultimately he just wasn’t a Boris or a Blair and he wasn’t suitably heavyweight as a UK counterpart to Trump. Whether Burnham will be remains to be seen…

Why does it matter to you? You seem a bit invested

Well we all are if we are on this thread. It's called Starmer's resigned. What is Sunak's debit card, please?

Well yeh the pp seems to care who I dislike. It’s not going to bring Starmer back to PM either way.

They really do. Why do you think they all want a Cabinet position so much and the term 'backbencher' is almost an insult? If you have a department, you can affect how it runs. If you don't have a department, you can't.

There seem to be quite a few Jane Smiths on this thread.

I’m intrigued by Sunak’s debit card, this is news to me.

I’d take dull and boring politics such as Starmer, May, Major any day, over comedians such as Trump, Johnson, Farage, Bliar.

One problem is that it seems the more corrupt politicians survive better in the political environment: Johnson and Bliar being two cases in point. Things had to get really bad before Johnson was dragged out kicking and screaming (and he should never have been allowed in).

Make politics boring again.

The problem is for Starmer him being boring wasn’t how most of the electorate felt. Hence the feedback to Labour MPs when canvassing.

It was back when he was trying to do his, I'm just a regular guy, man of the people bit, and didn't know how to use a contactless card. I think it was when he borrowed that Kia. It was a nothing except that in the end, it went viral and did the opposite, further cementing his reputation as an out of touch twit.

I am assuming this is what pp means?

www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/rishi-sunak-contactless-fail-video-b2043035.html

Do you even know what a nepo baby is? I'm presuming you don't, or you wouldn't make the ludicrous claim that Jeremy Corbyn was one. His parents were not famous and not in politics. One was a teacher and one was an engineer. Your argument is just bollocks.

You are the first to ask other people how they vote. I don't think you are posting in good faith.

I worked for senior government ministers for 4 years. There were a number of people who wielded an enormous amount of influence without being in the Cabinet or Government.

Your posting style seems familiar. Of course I’m glad Starmer is gone. I take it you’re not hence posting as such on mn.