Labour MPs are already mobilising against Starmer

[ProudAmberTurtle]

Before the first results came in, some senior Labour MPs are briefing that Starmer has got to go.

Ed Milliband seems more than happy to have his name out there as being at the forefront of any coup.

Looks like Ed Milliband is goading Starmer to sack him. If he is sacked then he immediately becomes a frontrunner to replace him. If he isn't, then Starmer looks too weak to carry on as PM.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-resignation-ed-miliband-labour-tzvlmjxzc

He is a lame duck and the country is in limbo /most people don’t notice or aren’t interested in things like gilt yields that will materially affect the future of this country. He has ‘presided’ (if a jellyfish can preside) over 18 months of utter chaos. He has to go.
Yes the next Labour incumbent will be as bad, but with any luck he might call a GE (as the Red haired Vicky Pollard famously said BoJo should have done) and see can hope for a Reform/Conservative coalition.
Night has never wanted to be PM, so might well stand aside as party of an agreement with Kemi for Zia Y or Richard T.

Nah, I think I would prefer all the left loonies to leave to the Greens and a Labour/Lib Dem coalition if needs must. And Labour to test—establish as the centre party for those actually working.

He is incredibly disliked and you can see it in votes, so yes he could stay and lose more support until voted out, but three years is a long time.

14 years was longer.

I do not really care if Starmer is disliked. As long as he keeps as all safe. It is far more important than some stupid popularity contest. With social media society has become addicted to drama and has the attention span of a gnat. Starmer is just boring and not entertaining enough. But we are in decline and geopolitically at an extremely dangerous time, so thanks. I will take boring any day.

He is not keeping us safe!
Law and order is a joke (or would be if it weren’t so tragic)
We have pitiful defence capability
The economy is teetering dangerously in the edge.
People are arrested for tweets and given summary punitive custodial sentences while rapists are given suspended sentences
And he dithers / utterly despicable

We’re not fighting Trump’s war. We would have been if Badenoch and Farage had their way.

Ok that’s your view on him, others disagree. Politicians don’t care that much about SM, polls, petitions or protests, they do care very much about votes and he’s losing many each week.

11 unions say he should go, he’s going to find it tough. Labour will need to decide.

None of the other options will do any better though.

“11 unions say he should go” - of course they do, as they want to appoint one of their own yes man or yes women. Why any Tory would suddenly champion what certain unions are saying. I just do not get it!

Ok I mean fine if you don’t get stuff. I’ll just say not everyone feels like you. In fact votes show they don’t.

There’s also some assumptions in your post, but in short he’s going to find it hard to carry on.

“In fact votes show they don’t.”

The British public has been protest voting for some time now. It is because many people find their vote does not count properly because of first past the post. So whoever gets in - they do not feel heard. Add in the whip system and a whole lot of out of touch MPs getting pissed constantly at tax payers expense and helping themselves to freebies… hardly a surprise that the common man is protest voting.

'With social media, society has become addicted to drama and has the attention span of a gnat.' I could give you an emoji but I choose to make a post and say that I think you are so right.
If someone is disliked it doesn't mean that he or she is wrong. It feels healthier to me than having a popular smarm box in charge.

On social media Labour were happy to use it to their advantage to get in, they just don’t like it now as it’s delivering the same to them.

As for smarm or not, he has more issues than that, Labour will have to stick or twist.

All of that is either not true or nothing to do with Labour policies.

Take Justice, Tories collapsed the justice system, failed to get criminal barristers to take on cases, didn't build enough prison places and cut 20k from the Police, also closed down almost all rural police stations.

Defence? takes years to build ships, Tories scrapped more than they built, failed to recruit and went into the last GE promising to cut troop numbers.

Labour have increased spend.

Courts sentence according to guidelines NOT what Govt's want & rapists would not normally get a suspended sentence.

How is he losing votes each week when we only get to vote once in a blue moon? I assume you think politicians do care about polls because they’re the only indicator most of the time.

Rent-free doesn’t begin to cover it.

Which conflict/s in the past 50 years do you believe the UK was right to have joined (if any)?

The Falklands.

Thank you.

Ukraine anyone? Really shows how it has dropped off the radar then…

Also Balkans, Afghanistan? Come on, there have been lots of wars and if you are going to say we should just sit on the sidelines, how exactly are we going to be participating in major international organisations as a key member?
It is also why we do have an obligation to certain Afghan refugees and translators and collaborators.

We haven’t got - and haven’t had - boots on the ground in Ukraine as far as I know. We don’t have to go to war to influence other countries.

Well good luck @blossomtoes getting a tourist visa to Russia then and pretending it is all honky dory and we aren’t in some complex hybrid war. Heard it all now!

I’m unlikely to ever apply for a Russian visa. I imagine I’d have trouble getting one for N Korea, we’re not at war with them.