Labour MPs are already mobilising against Starmer

[ProudAmberTurtle]

Before the first results came in, some senior Labour MPs are briefing that Starmer has got to go.

Ed Milliband seems more than happy to have his name out there as being at the forefront of any coup.

Looks like Ed Milliband is goading Starmer to sack him. If he is sacked then he immediately becomes a frontrunner to replace him. If he isn't, then Starmer looks too weak to carry on as PM.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-resignation-ed-miliband-labour-tzvlmjxzc

Jess Phillips resigns. in her letter she says "it is deeds not words that matter". The first Front Bencher to resign.

Says the women who reads out the names of women killed by men but couldn't countenance a grooming gang enquiry for raped and tortured girls until her feet were held to the fire.

I'm all for the grooming gangs to be exposed and people prosecuted but what good does yet another inquiry do?

Teressa May ordered a national one in 2014, it reported EIGHT years later (this current one will doubtless follow a similar time frame) but when it did report in 2022, May was long gone and for whatever reason, not a single recommendation was ever acted on until Labour got in....

Inquires always seem to me to be ways to avoid real accountability, see the Covid one, no one cares now, no one will be prosecuted, nothing will be learned... & when it does report, it'll be filed under "No further action" the way most ones end up.

imho Labour were right to say No, but bounced into it, by a frenzied media and the cries of 'cover-up, all the time its deliberating, more kids will be abused.

Well, it does nothing when you drag you heels and take eons to appoint a lead for the project. But I know that swathes of the country have had this abuse swept under the carpet and that it was a mere footnote in some reports and more thorough research is limited to very small areas. We need a proper audit of the scale and depth of the abuse. But, you are right, in the hands of somebody who won't look, then they won't see.

Surely they cannot be THE party that delays the King’s Speech? Please someone tell me they are not THAT stupid.

How much leeway do they have of choosing the date for the King's Speech? Did it need to be after the expected shit show of local elections results?

Yes you are right, its been ignored for far too long.

The May inquiry was national and thorough but ignored, all the main players who commissioned it long gone, no one cared in 2022, it was all about Covid/Bojo etc etc

Will be the same with this one.

Not Labours fault some but not the majority of victims opposed the 'chair.

I thought the PM sets the date of the King’s Speech and ensuing debate…

Oh wait a minute - to the rebels - is Starmer that sly that he set it straight after the local elections knowing full well his own party would be trying it on, as usual? Who knows?

If I had my way, the report would include a comprehensive look at the tactics of institutional cowardice, not just the police refusing to note the ethnicity of victims and perpetrators, but the whole shooting match of stubborn blindness, from social services, councillors, teachers, family planning clinics, etc. Where people tried to help, who shot them down. Well, I can dream, I suppose.

I was just asking, I don't know how the King's Speech is scheduled. I'm not invested enough to cobble together a conspiracy theory - I've got dinner to make.

That was not a focussed grooming gang inquiry, and it was criticised by many of the victims and people like Maggie Oliver as a whitewash. Also, AFAIK Labour haven’t acted on the recommendations yet either.

“I was just asking, I don't know how the King's Speech is scheduled. I'm not invested enough to cobble together a conspiracy theory - I've got dinner to make.”

Haha, I have an extremely boring and complicated trust agreement to draft so I am well invested in any conspiracy theories!

Talk about the long goodbye. Ta ta Keir. Next please.

Nah, Starmer out-foxed them. They have to get down to discussing legislation and doing their day job tomorrow, whether they prefer drama or not. The day job calls.

Yes, that would be terrible (sniggers!). Reform and the Greens would throw everything at this.

It would be funny if Starmer said 'fuck you all, I'm calling a General Election and you're all going to lose your jobs"

Gilt prices and yields have an inverse relationship: when the gilt price goes up, the gilt yield goes down, and vice versa.

I agree with this, but I also think that switching Keir out for somebody else will not change the fact that that happened. It won’t do any good - and it will do a lot of harm.

That’s right.

Why are you answering for the PP?

Would you like to debate FX, equities, monetary policy or something else? Let me know, please.

Nah, thought not.

Actually I was simply pointing out that the PP was trying to say gilt yields were up but by saying "gilts up" it would have actually meant gilt yields and the exact opposite of what the PP was intending.

Any bit of a thread derail
but I do like a bit of monetary theory debate and would love to hear your views on Modern Monetary Theory as currently in favour with the Green Party.

Labour have started to act on the findings, there were 20 & some will take time and need changes in law.

But my point still stands, this report took 8 years... any new inquiry will take years as well, its the nature of public inquires as is criticism of them....

No anger here - quite the contrary.

How about you? Feeling optimistic?

If I recall, you are an expert on energy - what’s your view there?

I'm glad he is still in office....no idea why asking if you re angry deserves a deletion.
It clearly wasn't how you expected the day to turn out.

I did not ask for your posted to be deleted - for the record.

I do report posts who blanket all Reform voters as racist, though (not aimed at you).

Reform voters still cross this morning I see. Perhaps the realisation that winning council seats does not mean a GE will be called is finally sinking in.

In the meantime, I see Reform councillors are dropping like flies. And then there is this sort of thing 👽🤪 👽