Charlie Kirk's beliefs

[MsAmerica]

If You're Wondering What Charlie Kirk Believed In, Here Are 14 Real Quotes
In light of his death, Charlie Kirk's legacy is being remembered through these viral quotes.
BuzzFeed

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexalisitza/viral-charlie-kirk-quotes

And?
What are we supposed to post in response?
"What a frightful person, he deserved to be shot"
Also, I'd prefer not to use someone else's soundbites.
Lastly, he's spot on here
A man who calls himself trans is wearing 'woman face,' no different than I would wear Black face trying to be a Black person. It's assuming an identity that isn't yours.

I’m assuming they’ll all be quotes that have been conveniently cut from longer quotes that show them out of context?

I disagree with his stance on many things but to suggest he was an evil man is plain wrong.

If anyone genuinely wants to know everything there is to know about CK they can visit his instagram page and / or the turning point USA page. It’s not exactly hard to find.

I find it dishonest to take clips out of context. I still didn’t agree with him even when considering the context but presenting the worst possible slant on his position is just underhand.

Well they are real....but totally out of context.....have you actually bothered reading/listening to him?

I didn’t know much about Charlie Kirk but after seeing various snippets on Facebook and on here I spent a couple of hours watching his debates and realised the snippets are taken out of context to discredit him.

The stoning of gays being a prime example. It’s been taken out of context, he was arguing against what Miss Rachel was saying.

What has been eye opening is how many people believe a human being should be shot in front of their family (and hundreds of people) for having views they disagree with.

Just to point out those two things are at complete opposite ends of the spectrum and that’s an absolutely ludicrous comparison. One done to ridicule and make fun of a race they considered beneath them, the other done as they identify with that gender.

Crikey I despair!

I think he made a living put of being controversial and humiliating people. He almost took a superiority in the way in which he conducted himself. I don't hate him and there's no justification for the crime but equally calling for the death penalty on a 22 year old man....is equally wrong.

I'm Catholic and I don't recognise his beliefs, as you either accept religion and it's doctrine or you don't...you can't pick and choose what suits your beliefs. You can choose to break doctrine but you can't say that the Bible supports the death penalty... because it doesn't and it never has. The ten commandments are clear....to take a life is wrong and will be judged and judged by god only.

So when I see so called Christians talk about the death penalty, guns and Gaza and then justify it in the name of religion It makes me pretty cross. If you process to be a Christian then owning a gun for protection is not something that is reflected in the beliefs of Christians.

I'm afraid America is at war with itself.

FGS @MsAmerica why not try showing some decorum? The man has been murdered.

Or to put it in another way you might understand better, shooting people because you disagree with their politics is bad because next time it might be someone you agree with who gets murdered.

There are no winners when politcians/political activists start being shot just because someone disagrees with their opinions. It stiffles debate and democracy.

Oh yay, quotes completely out of context. Give it a rest OP. If you can't be arsed to actually do any research you're just embarrassing yourself.

Shooting and murdering people is wrong. Always. Full stop.

Is the world better without some people? Most definitely.
Would CK make this world even worse? Certainly. Still doesn't justify killing.

Stephen King had to frantically retract his comments about Charlie Kirk wanting to 'stone the gays'.

I wonder why?

It might be because it was completely out of context, and a crass attempt at smearing a dead man who can't defend himself anymore. The cowards who wouldn't dare say something to his face feel able to now.

Exactly the same as they’ve done with his quote about empathy. They were too scared to step up and debate with him when he was alive but now he’s dead it seems everyone wants to have a go.

Alistair Campbell has embarrassed himself doing the same . Surprise!

Literally who cares? Death seems to be platforming this political mouthpiece in a way that nobody outside a small slice of americans wants or needs. Please go away.

What his beliefs were is irrelevant. What is relevant, and extremely worrying, is that we’re living in a time where someone can be murdered just for their political beliefs. It’s not like he was the president, he wasn’t even a politician! He was just a political commentator. Yes he had some extreme beliefs, almost none of which I agree with at all, but he wasn’t Hitler. His beliefs were in line with many other conservative Christians in America. I can see how he’d get people worked up & angry (I got very angry watching one of his YouTube clips where he talks about women who’ve become pregnant through rape being denied abortions)..he’s not a politician talking about passing a bill to actually do this though, he’s just giving his (idiotic) opinion. To kill some over their opinion, when they’ve done nothing to actually affect your life is extremely fucked up

Exactly this. They are all taken out of context

Only got as far as the empathy quote, then wrote the rest of the article off as bollocks.

Wonder why they didnt post the full quote? Almost as if they are cherry picking, which im sure isn't the case with a reputable source such as "Buzzfeed"

Whats your point op?

(BTW, I strongly disagreed with a huge amount of his views and some made me quite angry)

How can you say "a few gun deaths is ok so long as we can keep our right to bear arms" (paraphrasing)
and "if my 10 year old daughter was pregnant I would not allow her to terminate" out of context?

I do find it ridiculous though that all these idiotic American Christians profess to be such strong believers in the sacredness of human life, to the extent they believe rape victims should be forced to go through with unwanted & traumatic pregnancies..yet they also strongly believe in the death penalty. Ok, so you can’t terminate a barely-developed fetus but you’re ok with ending a full-grown human’s life with a family and kids. Yes, the full-grown human has committed a terrible crime but that doesn’t change the fact you’re taking “god’s work” into your own hands. Massive double standards!

I think op, and anyone else piping up with "oh but he said this" need to at least be honest with themselves as to their motives.

You're posting these to prove he deserved to be shot and shut up. Nothing will change my mind about that.

And yet, you have the brass balls to suggest he was the ultimate bad guy here and think youre better than him. You're not.

Taking quotes out of context shows your agenda. Are you trying to justify Charlie's murder? Speech really isn't free any longer is it. Just think, what happens when your own speech is taken or distorted by others, when you or a family member are murdered because you or they said or wrote something others dislike. Would that be justifiable? No. What happened to Charlie is showing up the ugly divisions in our society and people who would mock and laugh at a horrible death. It's OK to disagree with others and have totally different views. What's not OK is thinking that gives you a right to kill them. Worse still, being cheered on by others.

Context is king. And those who try to smear him have either never bothered to listen or didn’t have the faculties to comprehend.

He is spot on with that view IMO.

Ive always thought i was very empathetic but as he says, how can I possibly know how someone else is feeling? All im doing is projecting my own feelings and assuming the other person feels the same way. Which is actually pretty arrogant when I think about it 😔

Oh my. Critical thinking is dead. Nobody on this thread is saying he deserved to be shot.