Would you support mandatory identity cards in the UK?

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Non-mandatory cards have been attempted multiple times and failed to be adopted, do you think now is the time to make them mandatory?

Thanks.
So as a UK born and bred citizen to get a driver's license I have to show photo ID which will have to be a passport because as far as I can tell no other official government photo ID exists.

Exactly at @Bambamhoohoo See how quickly it escalates?

I can read the original post, which is asking whether you believe mandatory ID should be introduced

if you want to consistently contribute by posting about something that only impacts you and doesn’t answer the question, go ahead. It’s a bit weird though

The first response I put said I don't believe it should be compulsory.

So find out about that maybe they’re free and easily accessed then your specific problem is solved

What are they going to stop me accessing? I'm a boring middle aged woman who does nothing of interest to government surveillance.

HMRC knows what i earn, how much tax i pay and what savings I have and where I live.

Also I've never read the Google T&Cs so who knows what they're doing with my data? Clearly tracking my interest in Nike trainers.

nope- would cost £££££ to implement and then there are all the privacy issues. Really don’t see what problem they would solve.

I was objecting to the comments that in most EU countries they already do this and aren’t communist hives, or that it’s a part of every day life in the EU to have

• mandatory ID cards and,
• mandatory to carry at all times.

On Italy, the Irish gov doesn’t disagree with me as you have posted travel advice which where within the EU you can use a national ID card to travel instead of a passport. Crossing international borders isn’t the same as travel within the same country.

Overall, I am correct.
I never said “none”, please note I said
”However, even in those EEA countries that impose a national identity card requirement on their citizens, it is generally not required to carry the identity cards at all times.”

Did not say “none” for at all.

A poster on here wants to restrict public services based on her own criteria of who deserves them within 5 pages

Someone has replied on this thread.
They are for non UK citizens.

To me the 'if you've nothing to hide' argument shows a real lack of thought. The information the ID cards hold, who has (or can gain) access to the information, where it is stored and what is done with it raise quite a few issues. ID cards can work in truly digital socities, where one's ID card is used not just for ID, but for banking, paying for transactions, submitting official documentation, voting etc.; AND the people in those countries trust the Government. And not just the people in Government and their attitude, but the Government's ability to have safe a network for storing information and rigid regulations regarding sharing data and what can be done with it.

I think we need a national database that all other government databases can talk to but I don’t think people need to carry a card, and definitely not compulsory carrying. They sure putting driving licences on phones, hopefully this can be on the same basis as an option.

@Bambamhoohoo in case you missed my first comment....
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It’s £34 to get a provisional driving licence. Unless you have a medical condition preventing you from obtaining a driving licence, why do you want everyone else to get additional ID

Sorry no offence but I can’t face talking about your bloody driving license any more. I really don’t care. Work it out for yourself.

The poll is flawed as it doesn't suggest how the scheme could work.

Simple card with photo and some sort of unique number ? I could be persuaded.

Incredibly complex card with a huge fuck off "database of databases" so that anyone who stops you can download everything they need. You can fuck right off.

(I guess that makes me undecided).

And Labour have form for this. Which is why the last scheme died on it's arse. To be fair it was one of the few things we can thank David Cameron for.

See my comments above about how I can't get a provisional drivers license because I have no photo ID (ie a passport) required to get one.

@LoremIpsumCici

"Isn’t required in any other European country" = my paraphrasing of none.

You may think you are overall correct. That's fine.

Astounded at the results.

No. Ugh.

On a practical level it's another thing to lose, to remember to carry with me. I don't want to volunteer for more admin just for existing.

I like to go for a run, or a swim on the beach carrying nothing valuable with me at all.

Plus, if you're a criminal and you don't care about breaking the rules you'll just go around without one anyway. Or get a forgery.

So it'd be a punishment for chaotic but law abiding citizens like myself, and no skin off the nose of those it'd intend to target.

I’d be happy if they’re free and easy to apply for with no penalties attached eg: for forgetting to carry it, forgetting to renew it, losing it etc. I’d want the onus (plus cost) on councils to ensure that everybody has one, not on individuals. I have adhd and the last thing I need is another piece of admin to think about, I certainly wouldn’t be in favour if I would have to pay to get one or if they carry a fine if you forget to renew it or forget to have it on you. If they’re completely free and didn’t carry risk of fine/ penalty then I wouldn’t object.

but the Government's ability to have safe a network for storing information and rigid regulations regarding sharing data and what can be done with it.

This^ the Gov data leaks on Afghan interpreters is resulting in these people being executed in the streets by the Taliban

What is to stop identity theft by hackers? Sell our info on the black market and next thing you know there are three Lorems in the UK and one isn’t paying taxes, the other one has just robbed a bank and the other is me, the only one at the address listed and I’m going to have to clear my name…

Why isn't your NI number the key to this?
It can link everything together

HMRC, benefits etc
Driving licence
Passport
NHS stuff
It's issued at 15.5years old and sticks with you for life

Oops that was typo. I thought I wrote many instead of any,

I stand by my first statement which was 100% correct and contradicts my later typo.

I have "worked it out" - whatever that means.
To get a provisional drivers license the DVLA says I must provide photo ID.
The only official UK government ID that exists is a passport.
Therefore I must have a passport.
That's why I would like to see an official but NOT COMPULSORY government issued ID card available.
Duh 🙄

NI Numbers are not unique.