Would you support mandatory identity cards in the UK?

[Dbank]

Non-mandatory cards have been attempted multiple times and failed to be adopted, do you think now is the time to make them mandatory?

People really are just desperate to hand over their basic rights to the government aren’t they. I am genuinely incredulous at this. 10 years ago I think the responses would be very different. But I guess I shouldn’t be surprised after what we saw in Covid. People desperate for the government to remove basic freedoms

No. Another who doesn’t see why it would be necessary. If you don’t have ID and want some you can easily get a provisional driving licence

Well exactly

It sounds like the Ontario photo card I have.
https://www.ontario.ca/page/ontario-photo-card?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22600956426&gclid=Cj0KCQjw2IDFBhDCARIsABDKOJ4uBPOJ-byuFygo2-HuJ19_3xw5pGVOL7QtlhN5tzJXDhjeRL7Rk9UaAnkkEALw_wcB

You do not have to be going abroad to get a passport. You can get a passport and never leave the UK.

Wouldn’t bother me at all.

Definitely. I work with young people and the struggle some of them have getting ID to get into work is unreal. Some dont know anybody at all who can sign for driving licences or passports. Some are having massive problems because they can't provide birth certificates for their estranged parents and grandparents. They need to start issuing them with NI numbers. Bloody citizens cards were a pointless introduction as they aren't acceptable in many instances.

Not mandatory but I would like an official government card because I have neither a passport or a driving license.
Basically I would like all the information that's on the bio-metric whatsit in a passport but on a credit card sized card.
Basically the same as a passport but isn't a pretty little book with pages I don't need and can only be used for internal flights within the UK.
I know there's one that exist like the Citizens Card but I have had friends with those and they have been turned away from clubs and places because people don't seem to know what they are.

They're quite expensive though and a pain to have to carry around.
A credit card size version you can stick in your pocket.

in European countries these are just a basic part of life & are used as a driving licence/passport (within EU of course/NI number/health nos etc

seems very sensible to me

I would vote against a law requiring the equivalent of mandatory carrying on identification papers/cards as that is on the checklist to fascism. The environment in the UK today framing “immigrants” as a threat to society is ugly and xenophobic. Violence is happening daily towards immigrants and anyone who looks or sounds like one- nonwhite & Brit(ish) or with an “accent.”

I tried this but the website said I need photographic ID "like a passport".
I don't have a passport which is why I thought I'd go for the cheaper option of the provisional drivers license.
So what photo ID I am meant to use?

You know there are people without those documents don't you?

I'll be happy to carry one, as long as it doesn't cost me anything because I feel its unnecessary

We already have digital ID I.e. our NI numbers and driving licences. Why would another ID be the one that's linked to social media and purchases?
There could be a law that prevents us having to use our ID to access most private services or at least opt out.
I'd be happy to use an ID card but it would make sense for it to be our NI number, plus a generated number for anyone who doesn't have NI number.

What are you talking about? What "basic freedoms" are you having removed by having an ID card?

I'm very anti Starmer and the Labour crew they have in but I don't understand what you are talking about.

Of course. But that’s still not a satisfactory response as to why the rest of the population have to have mandatory ID cards.

They’re going to digital passports, ID and everything soon.
Credit card size is easy to lose.

The Home Office would have to do the same checks as they do for a passport, this will double workload. The mandatory ID will be as expensive a passport regardless of whether it is paid for out of increased taxes or cuts to services or if we have to pay a fee for it.

British resistance to national IDs has always amused me. Most other European countries have them; they're hardly any more "authoritarian" than the UK. They're simply a very handy single doc you use to interact with public bodies. It's fascinating that in one of the countries with most CCTV you think it's an ID card that will mean you'll be "state surveilled"

I have a passport, and a driving licence. That should be enough, for those with neither the option of an ID card I would not mind.

I think passports should be cheaper and they could quite easily send out a card size ID doc with a passport that could be used as a basic id card.

I don't think there should be a mandatory thing because even ignoring anything other than practical issues, the system to do it would be shit and expensive. There is bound to be a cost involved which would mean the poorest people are the ones most likely to cop any fines etc for not having one. They're also likely to be the ones that struggle the most with costs for birth certs etc that are bound to be needed to apply for it.

Not everyone has, particularly when they're older.

Yes, and at what age will children need one?

Other European countries don’t appear to be authoritarian or communist hives.

Why would we be? If it helps with illegal working , tax, etc then I’m perfectly fine with it.

In most of those countries, it’s not mandatory/compulsory to have one. And even in the countries where it is mandatory/compulsory to have one, there is no requirement to have it at all times when out and about.