This migrant problem is going to let Reform in isn’t it?

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Honestly it’s such a bloody nightmare. Reform are making a total hash of local government from what I’ve read, putting teenagers in charge of whole departments with no relevant experience. What are they going to do if they are elected to run a country!!!! I’m honestly terrified. Labour need to be seen to be actively doing something to quell the far-right momentum that’s gaining traction from ordinary folk. I’m amazed at the average, usually pretty sensible people around me who are now telling me they are going to vote Reform.

there was an interview I saw yesterday where the minister said that thousands of people were being deported regularly. The interviewer asked why there were no videos of this and she said there could be. Well let’s see it! It would absolutely help.

^^ hear hear

The culture is completely different. Respect for one another is important (unlike this country where the self rules).

They have unbelievably high rates of rape and domestic assault, though. It’s not paradise

Don't be silly, what was Enoch Powell talking about then??

Majority of EU migrants went home, your lot let in migrants from the developing world in their millions, they will never go home, even the ones on fixed term visas.
You voted for this, so stop moaning.

Better before 2000? oh yes riots, an NHS that was the worst in europe, care in the community, recessions - the ERM.. blighted ex mining regions, Right to buy but no new council houses built.

Lived in central London around the late 90s early 2000s, place was a dump.... went back again in 2012, total transformation, esp around the east of the city and Kings Cross/St Pancras, what a station.

But everyone has rose tinted glasses i guess.

Blackcordoroys · Today 07:45
They have unbelievably high rates of rape and domestic assault, though. It’s not paradise

I never said it was paradise. I said there was less crime such as phone snatching, mugging and shop lifting.

@MotherOfRatios

Do you think the phone snatching epidemic in London is caused by poverty?

I know, I wasn’t getting at you. It’s very interesting, the difference between indoors/ hidden crime and outdoors crime iyswim. Some people on the internet say they feel so safe walking around Japan but women there are victims of violent crime at a high rate - its just interesting to me how we separate these in our heads

For this you’d have to trace where the phones are ending up and who is facilitating the crime. Do they end up sold at high prices o/s?

Some people on the internet say they feel so safe walking around Japan but women there are victims of violent crime at a high rate - its just interesting to me how we separate these in our heads.

I know - this violent ‘hidden’ crime is so awful and I suppose it happens everywhere. I bet alcohol has a hand in quite a lot of it.
Korea and Japan have draconian laws about drugs - even a small amount of cannabis can result in a prison sentence - but there is a heavy drinking culture.

They found a warehouse in China that was reporposing stolen phones from the UK.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3rdy132q3lo

And other places recycle phones

"Mobile phone thefts - House of Commons Library" https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cdp-2025-0150/#:~:text=The%20National%20Crime%20Agency%20says,as%20theft%20from%20bank%20accounts.%E2%80%9D

At least the people already living here for generations could buy a house and have a reasonable standard of living so I disagree

and what is the point of building social housing if it is possibly going to people from overseas, it’s unlikely to be benefiting the people already here who have been in waiting lists for a long time

I think that’s a really interesting point. I think in my head I have been categorizing them separately also.

Thanks. This looks like we’re a particularly easy and useful market for theft rather than any huge difference between citizens re Japan etc and here.

It is not even entirely an indoors issue. If a British area change so that most men are from cultures where women obey men then even just walking int he street and who moves out of the way for you and how they look at women has a huge impact on women not used to that kind of treatment. However I have just as much an issue with legal immigration from anywhere in that we had 1.1m new people last year and 1.3m the year before and there are just far too many people coming over the last 30 years. The 30 before that it was about level year on year. So we certainily had a massive sea change. We are very popular.

Yes this
There's no houses available for all these men arriving,and god knows how many families they will bring over each .
Lord only knows where they are going to live

https://pressgazette.co.uk/the-wire/newspaper-corrections-media-mistakes-errors-legal/telegraph-sex-crimes-foreigners-headline-ipso-ruling/

Telegraph showed ‘lack of care’ with headline: ‘Quarter of UK sex crimes carried out by foreigners’

Data was available and set out in article but headline was misleading, IPSO finds.

https://news.sky.com/story/fact-checking-farage-are-foreigners-more-likely-than-britons-to-commit-sexual-offences-13407029

What jobs are they going to get. Folks are going to be leery of them around women in a health care setting I would imagine.

DH walking the dog this morning bumped into a couple who've left London because of fear of knives, muggings, immigration. They've moved to West Wales. They were upset when their little sleepy Welsh town has opened up two houses of multi occupancy to immigrant males awaiting processing. They've seen it all before they said.

House prices have been a barometer of the economy for decades, Right to Buy made it even worse, as hoses sold off cheap, none replaced, upping rents and house prices.

Social housing doesn't usually go to migrants, as "local connection" is on the list of criteria.... the numbers going to migrants will be very small.

I'm near Plymouth, very very few migrants here, Plymouths council house waiting list for a 3 bed house has 11000 applicants, the council rehouse about 4 families per week, so about 200 per year.....

Its even worse for 1/2 bed properties.

Migrants are just the latest "To Blame" that those in Govt use to distract from their poor governance....

Most in power are v v wealthy, look at Labours housing minister or nr Billionaire Sunak, they govern for themselves and people like them... not for the likes of you and me.
If PM & MPs had to use NHS dentistry only, we would have no issues getting an NHS dentist.

In my bit of Wales the housing waiting list has been paused priority to be given to migrants. Our first minister has said many times we're the land of sanctuary.

Do you have evidence of that or is it hearsay?

Family work there. They're pushing people with empty homes to hand them over. We've already got double rates on second homes. In other council triple rates on second homes.

Wales is the Petri dish for labour. We were the first to make landlords register, pay for courses. Implement the six months notice to tenants.

Only then is it implemented in England.