This migrant problem is going to let Reform in isn’t it?

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Honestly it’s such a bloody nightmare. Reform are making a total hash of local government from what I’ve read, putting teenagers in charge of whole departments with no relevant experience. What are they going to do if they are elected to run a country!!!! I’m honestly terrified. Labour need to be seen to be actively doing something to quell the far-right momentum that’s gaining traction from ordinary folk. I’m amazed at the average, usually pretty sensible people around me who are now telling me they are going to vote Reform.

there was an interview I saw yesterday where the minister said that thousands of people were being deported regularly. The interviewer asked why there were no videos of this and she said there could be. Well let’s see it! It would absolutely help.

The thing is, migrants are actually a tiny part of the problems, they are just being made out to be the root cause - classic political misdirection.

But this one thing is going to change the direction of this country unless they are actively seen to be tackling it. I can’t bear the thought of Farage as MP.

On your last para op Starmer has already tried doing videos of that.

Reform are also very cleverly stirring this up - encouraging the mob to turn out in force.

They want to create a feeling of lawlessness within the country so they can argue that they are the only party that can put a stop to this. Nigel Farage is treading a very interesting line - saying that some of the protestors have gone too far but….

Well, it'll certainly get rid of the Labour party, that's for sure.

I have very strong concerns that reform will get in at the next election.

I don’t event know if it is possible politically but they seem to be gaining ground all over.

Nailed it. Lawlessness is exactly what I am seeing on social media. My algorithm was cats and people falling over and hair for ages. Now it’s all shoplifting, women getting harassed and other negative stuff. I keep trying to change it back but it slides that way again. If it’s happening to me online I suspect it’s happening to most people.

I think the conservatives were talking about a coalition with Reform. I am naturally conservative with a small c but adding reform into it will make it a huge capital C.

Labour have no real interest in sorting this out. Letting almost always young men from countries that treat women appallingly with no proper ID live in residential areas. What on earth could go wrong?

How many people are being processed every week and by how many Home Office people?

If Reform do a deal with the Tories they are very likely to win. Labour are a waste of space and have little sound bites which even when they are saying them dont have any chance of implementing them.

It wouldn’t surprise me at all. It seems to have really taken hold where we are, won council seat in last local election, and I expect to see them with a lot more in the next general election.

Truthfully though I’m not sure anything Labour do is going to make any different to that for the majority of those who are taking an interest in Reform because broadly speaking the media- particularly social media- is feeding the beast, there isn’t another anti-establishment party to choose and people have completely lost faith in the current and previous governments. Lots of people are now deciding that actually after so many years of rubbish they may as well take a chance on something new.

It is scary though & shows a real lack of understanding.

No one used to claim they were going to vote Reform.

Now its seen as OK to do so. We went to the US a few months before Trump got in again. Americans are very open and we met a number and NO ONE said they were going to vote for him and yet....

Farage is a fab political commentor. He speaks in the language that people seem to udnerstand. Delivering it is far more tricky but he hasnt had to do that.

Look at the hash that Streeting is making over the Doctors strike. When in opposition he claimed all you needed to do was sit down with them and negotiate. Went well didnt it Streeting....

Sadly, I think we'll end up with a Reform government next time.

None of the parties are brave enough to be honest with the electorate about the challenges we face, and so none of them are able to offer any real solutions. In that kind of vacuum, the far right will flourish.

Things will get much, much worse under Farage, but we already know that most voters are very easy to manipulate. It will be too late by the time they realise.

Those who are in a position to make alternative plans after the next election should seriously start getting their ducks in a row. It's going to be bad.

After reading Labour's 10 year plan for the NHS, I think the junior doctors have probably done him a favour by deflecting attention away from that pile of plop. If he can't sort them out quickly though it will be the end of him.

People who claim its going to get much worse. What worse than the mess Labour are making?? Their spraying around money to ensure that the state is huge. Stabbing business in the back and sneakily putting up NI. Are they stupid?

Dont get me started on the 'broadest shoulders need to take the burden'. FFS - they will move to other countries you twats. 30% of income tax is paid by 1% of the people, when is enough, 50%, 80%??

Really worried about this. Farage is Johnson mark 2, in being a privileged twit out to feather his own nest first and foremost, but who will say and do anything to make that happen, and who has convinced many people he's an ordinary relatable bloke just like them who shares their concerns and will see them right. Whereas he will actually just make himself and his rich friends even richer.

Maybe if people actually looked at the situation pre Brexit when certain controls were legally in place with regards to returns etc and post Brexit when the French and Belgians had no such obligations then it might get through why Brexit was such a shit idea in all kinds of ways. However the bigger issue is the fact of the numbers Johnson and Sunak allowed in ( plus their families needing resources) and encouraged ‘legally’ in order to mask the fact that Brexit was a shit show economically in terms of jobs that others simply didn’t want to do . I cannot believe people arestupid enough to actually believe Farages bar room pub talk without any idea of resources or money needed to go along with his back of fag packet policies - his bunch of total weirdos couldn't run a piss up in a brewery and it might take him getting in for many to realise that - I’m not that bothered as if it looks like he’s getting in then we will invoke nomad visas as luckily we can and be off . You will see a tax drain of people who can work remotely and have passive income like never before.

Yes, much worse. Wait and see.

Farage says he wants to reopen a conversation on abortion. They are super scary.

But yes I think they are getting in. I have no idea what happened the last 5 or so years but the shift is crazy.

The BMA are almost Marxist in their demands. They are also using very strange stats to prove that they need more and more.

They arent earning £15 per hour. They have left out all sorts of other allowances they get including the guaranteed pension. Others outside of the public sector have no such comfort. Reeves is after the private sector pensions. The more she does this the more people just wont save into the pension and surprise surprise they might well need state financial support. When Labour were looking to give a celing to pension pots someone said it would encourage all the senior Doctors to retire early. Then some numpty said they would make an exception for Doctors - what could possibly go wrong with making one occupation 'special'.

No brainer I’m afraid. As the Democrats and Bernie Sanders enabled Trump and the Republicans in the US, Labour and Starmer et al are enabling Reform. Unless we have some sort of redemptive action from Labour in the next year or so. Chances?

I remember that time. Loads of signs on windows asking for staff. Or closures / reduced hours due to staff.

I do think importing the problem away was a bad idea. This was the time when businesses needed to go through a tough period and increase wages to attract staff. We missed that and now have an even bigger problem with col vs. wages.

How is that different to being a Reform voter?

Yes, probably.

There are many UK citizens who have seen it as a problem for years and consecutive governments have done little to address it.

Every government has acknowledged it as a problem but failed in their promises to address it.

So they'll veer towards the party who haven't had the opportunity to do something but say they'll do something and haven't already failed to do so.

I think it is worth remembering that the majority of the electorate don't support Reform and that Reform's support has slipped since the local elections. There is still a long way to go to 2029.

Farage and Tice are playing with fire at the moment re: their support for the Epping protests. It could easily blow up in their faces, especially given the neo-Nazi involvement.

I for one can’t wait for reform to take over. I voted for them last time and I will next time too.