Worried about Reform Electoral Victory

[RolandH]

Hello everyone,

I'm worried about a possible Reform electoral victory. I do disagree with alot of their policies, but the main thing which concerns me is, if they get in, I have doubts about whether they will preserve the integrity of our electoral system.

Looking at far right governments around the world just now, many of them seem to be happy to attempt to undermine the electoral process. Trump tried to after he lost to Biden, and I doubt that the next election in the US will be free and fair, as the republicans will be trying to replace the electoral officials with their people. In Hungary, the free press has been repressed. Things can obviously get worse than this.

I would like to hear if other people are worried about this, for people who are thinking about voting Reform or have done have thought about it, and also how people who are committed Reform voters would respond to this. Will you be ready to fight against this party if it looks like they are taking the country in an anti-democratic direction?

Has it? What has Starmer said or done that shows that? I think it’s quite the reverse, he’s performed far better internationally representing the UK than he has done domestically.

the British Domestically is what matters. He’s got no loyalty to Britain domestically, and it shows. Hence all the rumours that he’s in the pay of non - British puppet masters.

You still haven’t answered my question.

That seems so naïve.. domestic issues are interconnected with international issues and if people and reform don't realise that we are doomed...

You can underestimate the nations intelligence if you like. Starmer can treat Britain as if it’s unimportant if he likes.

results will ensue that you will see as doom.

If this happens then all the doom mongers can blame Keir and his side kick Angela.

You have a very odd way of seeing of Starmer, I'm not a fan by any stretch of the imagination but I don't buy your ridiculous take that he is not patriotic which is effectively what you are saying. Much prefer him than someone is in the pocket of Trump and co.

Don't worry I don't underestimate the nations intelligence, I am hoping they will see through reforms bulls*t.

Thankyou for labelling me as odd. That will shut me up, so you can hold court.

How do you feel about Farage's support of Trump, his admiration for Putin and his contempt for his constituency? Does that demonstrate loyalty to Britain?

I labelled how you view Starmer as odd... don't take it so personally, I have no idea if you're odd. I can comment as much as I like it's a public forum.

Still waiting.

I am worried about this too,after hearing Richard Tice's opinions about disabled people and welfare benefits. He said that the majority of people claiming disability benefits were 'swinging the lead' and said that if they got into power,they would take these benefits away and force people to find work in social care. Really?! As a disabled person,I struggle to look after myself at times, without having to do a physically demanding job looking after other disabled people!

They're going however the wind blows. Stopping the two child cap and bringing back the heating allowance while calling societies' most vulnerable scroungers and threatening to force them into work.

I agree with bringing back the heating allowance. Old people are quite vulnerable and they can't actually do anything about aging

For all pensioners despite their financial circumstances?

I’m not “vulnerable” and I don’t want it back.

While I can see why some have an issue in giving benefits like winter fuel allowance to all pensions regardless of income, the disadvantages of means testing in my opinion make the argument for the universality of this kind of benefit. Those that feel they don't need it can give it to charity.

Despite what GB News, The Telegraph, the Reform blue tick fan accounts on X would have people believe, a recent YouGov poll shows a different perspective to how the country views Starmer as PM in comparison to the other party leaders.

Those that feel they don't need it can give it to charity.

I’d rather they used it to raise the two child benefit cap.

I completely disagree when money for the disabled is being cut.

I don't agree with cutting money for disable people - it shouldn't be a choice between children (child benefits), the disabled and the elderly! It's disgusting that it seems to be the way our politicians want to play it.

How else can they play it without raising taxes on the wealthiest?

Well personally I wouldn't have a problem with that, and much prefer that to inflicting more horror and misery on the poorest in society. Also it is interesting to note how it's usually the wealthiest in society that screw up (thinking banking crisis of 2008) yet the poorest have to pay for it with austerity.

I wouldn’t have a problem with it either but there’s no political party prepared to bite the bullet. As the wealthiest demographic in the country is pensioners I can’t see not giving us all an extra £150 is much of a problem.

People would be horrified if PIP was means tested. Maybe that will happen with lower level awards.