Zelensky - Trump meeting.…just horrible. BBC news live.

[JanieJS]

Scary stuff.

I don't know what to say.

It makes me feel even more icky about Starmer brown nosing him to such a degree yesterday.

Trump is an odious man, but he does seem to be right about one thing - everyone else needs him more than he needs them. He holds all the cards. Everyone is tiptoeing round him, making contingencies upon contingencies depending what random mood he happens to be in today. No one ever walks away and says "that doesn't work for us, you've lost our vital trade/support".

The only solution is for Europe to cough up some very serious cash for Ukraine. But we don't have enough troops to make a serious difference, neither do France, and we don't have any air power these days.

Europe should never have sleep-walked into a situation where we literally can't function without the US.

The Americans truly are the baddies now. Horrifying for world politics.

I’m an American in London and I’m just disgusted. I’m disgusted all the time by everything going on in the US but this is a completely appalling level of sickening.

The whole thing with these public meetings has been about pressure on the visiting leader in front of the media so the world can see how "powerful" Trump is.

Unfortunately he's not at all worried about how horrible and stupid he comes across, because being horrible and stupid has been no barrier to him being there now.

Trump is Putin's lackey, he always has been and I'm not sure even if incontrovertible proof of that came out he wouldn't still have support in the US. It is unimaginable and a dystopia beyond fiction.

Hahaha with the way he was licking Trump's ass yesterday he is not going to say anything 😂 😆

What about Ukraine now though ?

They are in trouble without American backing regardless of how much of a cunt Trump is.

Yep

Budapest Memorandum. Ukraine has every right to expect America to come to its defence.

Biden has sent Ukraine lots of money and weapons to help fight the war, but trump wont be sending anything and without their help and support they wont win it. But starmer will send it and thats how we will also go to war beginning ww3. without the help of the us will will also be fucked that’s why he wants him to sign the deal

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I call it 'politics'. Starmer played Trump and he did it perfectly. He might have had to massage his ego to do so but a small price to pay in my view.

Completely set up to humiliate Zelensky. Appalling behaviour by a bully and sidekicks.
Trump wants to carve up Ukraine between him and Putin.
Utterly disgraceful.

The only solution is for Europe to cough up some very serious cash for Ukraine. But we don't have enough troops to make a serious difference, neither do France, and we don't have any air power these days.

Serious cash

I agree. ☹️

Trump fully intends to pull the plug.. he had zero intention of arming Ukraine... he has said this repeatedly...

The arms given to Ukraine were under a different administration, might as well have been another country.

Yes and we should have started massively increasing defence capability as soon as Russia invaded Ukraine
It's no good thinking war is wrong if the other side doesn't agree

Correct.

Russia keeping the land they've taken is deeply unfair, however it's the only viable path to peace.

I was thinking that.
I laughed when I read the kgb rumour.
I'm not laughing now.

Meanwhile the rest of the world are in no doubt.😬

Edgelord

How many times is the man expected to say thankyou ?? They spoke to him and shouted at him like he was a badly behaved child and he kept his cool. He looked utterly confused at some points they are gaslighting twats .

From what I saw there were 2 people there with an attitude problem and neither of them were Ukrainian.

"You campaigned for the opposition in Pennsylvania" was the most telling bit of the exchange.

Small and petty-minded.

Zelensky is def not the definition of a good leader and similar words said on here, look at his history and that is the sanitised version, however Trump is an embarrassment and agree he ambushed Zelensky and his intentions are getting worryingly real.

At least they have showed the world what utter divs they are & who they are aligned with.