Zelensky - Trump meeting.…just horrible. BBC news live.

[JanieJS]

Scary stuff.

I don't know what to say.

Well it has, really. The Mueller Report. I read the whole thing years ago and it's bloody obvious Trump was being completely supported by Putin and that Trump worked in Putin's interests.

I am terrified of war but… Zelenskyy should not back down . That was disgusting to watch he is bullying and trying to set a narrative that Zelenskyy is starting a ww3 so we all turn against him.
This is about trumps ego “I can end this war in a few days “ Now it’s looking like he certainly can’t
He was letting his ego be fed by uk yesterday but he knows Zelenskyy is alone.

This was enraging and so sad to watch .
zelensky is right he has been on his own for 3 years. .

I also agree. Trump lost his temper far too quickly and Vance was on edge from the start. They went into it defensively there’s clearly a bigger problem than any of us can comprehend

Trump and Vance disgusting. America is now an enemy of the world. Putin is sitting rubbing his hands in glee. Zelensky has more dignity and backbone than those 2 bxxxtxrds.

I think the UK needs to give Ukraine a nuclear missile. Make them a nuclear state.

Thanks, @Saintinthecity .
Signed.
Bumping your post .

Remember that there were serious accusations that Russia had interfered with the election when trump was elected the first time?
This was a huge story in the US. Trump denied everything of course.
Could it be that this was in fact true and putin now owns trump because he can reveal that russia did in fact get him his first presidency?
Or are they both simply evil bullies together?

Vance was disgusting. What did he want, Zelensky on his hands and knees prostrating thanks? I watched the whole sorry show. I'm pleased Zelensky left early, he can hold his head up high. I agree with a poster above that he looked like he was dealing with imbeciles. It's just an utter shame that these people do actually hold the cards 😪
That's actually made me really sad.

I think the UK needs to give Ukraine a nuclear missile. Make them a nuclear state.

no

Have watched the whole thing. I am going to put another view on this.

Zelensky went into that meeting unprepared. He assumed that Trump would pour billions into protecting Ukraine. Zelensky doesn’t want to do any deal. He just wants the rest of the world to support him and give him billions to fight Russia.

That was not going to happen. You ask the average person in the street if they want to personally pay for Ukraine to be given troops to defend their country and they will very likely say no.

There is a deal to be made here and Zelensky has gone about it the wrong way and completely misjudged the room

Yes for what it’s worth: https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/no-2nd-state-visit-for-donald-trump

It was cruel, disgusting and pathetic.

Trump and Vance are like two school bullies. I felt so bad for Zelensky. Never seen such terrible low behaviour in politics. Shocking beyond words!

I bet they wished they never got rid of their nuclear weapons.

It's just an utter shame that these people do actually hold the cards

Unfortunately Trump is right about that

Ukraine was in deep shit when Trump got in bed with Putin. Everything else is just noise

The comments about having an ocean between the US and Europe was very telling.

”Don’t dictate to me “ trump says

Trump calling Zelenskyy a dictator again

No the War is NATO's fault,

In 2014 The Russian Federation invaded Crimea and then annexed it, while NATO stood by and twiddled their thumbs.

That was the time when NATO could have stopped Putin's advance but chose not to. Since then Vlad has just gathered momentum.

Exactly they got rid of them with the assurances they would be protected. They need to be reinstated if the world is not.

So what would you suggest he does then?

If Putin invaded the UK, would you be happy if Starmer just rolled over and said "we're all Russian now"?

FFS!

And accusations that Putin interfered with Brexit and our elections….Farage…

It is like living in a parallel world, a film.

Such a sense of being unsafe, of destroying trust in democracy.

The United States signed the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances with Ukraine on December 5, 1994. In return for protection, Ukraine gave up the 3rd largest nuclear arsenal in world.

Trump ended the meeting by telling Zelensky that this will make great television.
That’s who holds the nuclear button now. A failed reality tv star who still thinks he is on a tv show.

He seems to have forgotten you can technically walk from Alaska to Russia at certain times of the year. But that's typical Trump, always looking in the wrong direction.