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Zelensky - Trump meeting.…just horrible. BBC news live.

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JanieJS · 28/02/2025 18:08

Scary stuff.

I don't know what to say.

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LuluBlakey1 · 01/03/2025 00:18

jimmyjammy001 · 28/02/2025 23:50

It was nothing but an ambush instigated by Trump and his right hand man. They disrespected Zelensky and all that his country has been through trying to belittle him in front of the world, they want him to give up his minerals so Putin can take the land, that's why they won't offer security deal with the mineral deal. Hopefully we take back the state visit otherwise there will be riots. It. Might very well come down to having to pick between the USA and Ukraine for us in the future and nato will be at stake. Worrying times ahead.

I bet there will be little reaction to Trump's state visit. We have many Reform and Tory voters who support Trump and his pal Farage and everything they stand for and how they behave- including ex-PMs Johnson and Tryss, and ex-candidates for leader of the Tories, Bravermann and Badenoch- currently lining herself up next to Farage.

Beesandhoney123 · 01/03/2025 00:18

faffadoodledo · 28/02/2025 18:35

And we've extended an invitation for a state visit to that loathsome man. Good grief.

Russia has something on Trump.
Definitely.

Can't imagine what. It's out there that he fancies his own daughter, is a sex pest, a predator, corruption, fraudster, liar, convicted criminal, friend of musk. Tax fraud. Russian asset.

Maybe he gave money to charity once and the Russians have it on tape.

Trump is busy creating chaos. Dictators had book. De stabilise, isolate, weaken. He puts me in mind of a third world dictatorship.

birdcake · 01/03/2025 00:22

LifeExperience · 01/03/2025 00:02

A Ukrainian MP just called for Z's impeachment.

let me guess, one bought by putin

birdcake · 01/03/2025 00:24

Beesandhoney123 · 01/03/2025 00:18

Can't imagine what. It's out there that he fancies his own daughter, is a sex pest, a predator, corruption, fraudster, liar, convicted criminal, friend of musk. Tax fraud. Russian asset.

Maybe he gave money to charity once and the Russians have it on tape.

Trump is busy creating chaos. Dictators had book. De stabilise, isolate, weaken. He puts me in mind of a third world dictatorship.

Trump is the most corrupt president the US has ever had. He can't be gone too soon.

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 01/03/2025 00:31

Trump is horrible. I didn't like him the first time round, I dislike him even less now.

TooBigForMyBoots · 01/03/2025 00:39

BeardofHagrid · 28/02/2025 23:05

There was a drone strike the other day and two people were injured. When will this terrible war stop?

When Putin stops waging it.

HauntedBungalow · 01/03/2025 00:40

ZebedeeDougalFlorence · 01/03/2025 00:07

I'm glad I'm oldish, but not old enough, unfortunately. I hope I have a fair few good years still left in me, but sometimes I wish I didn't. It's a scary time.

How/why did America do this to us? Those fucking idiots. I hate them for putting a reality show influencer in the White House. I hate Joe Biden for not doing proper succession planning and for his arrogance in going for a second term. A lot of hate, I know, but I am in a very bad mood.

If you're oldish you'll have seen similar from the USA most of your life. I certainly have. Maybe not as blatant and graceless but with the same actions and outcomes. Ukraine was set up from the start, from Maidan onwards, by successive administrations. This staged argument was them putting the boot in. Zelenskyy sees it now but he didn't before and that was his mistake. He let himself be drawn in by their promises.

spiderlight · 01/03/2025 00:41

PiggyPigalle · 01/03/2025 00:16

Who will it be presented to? It needs a parliament petition, so it has to be debated. There isn't one yet.
Petitions - UK Government and Parliament

A friend of mine has started one tonight. It has to get a certain number of signatures and then be reviewed, apparently, but I'll share the link as soon as it's available.

Flomingho · 01/03/2025 00:59

Trump and Vance are bullies. If there is a WW3, Trump is to blame. This motor mouthed idiot has done nothing but meddle and disrupt world peace since his second term. His comments regarding the Gaza strip were shocking enough and every day there is something worse from him.

sleepwouldbenice · 01/03/2025 01:17

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LuluBlakey1 · 01/03/2025 01:28

ThankyouBakedP0tato · 28/02/2025 23:45

So rude.

But so true

2021x · 01/03/2025 01:48

Just watched this conference and Trump is just doing what all US presidents do, but he is doing it on camera rather than behind the scenes.

I think we (the UK) are playing it right, sucking up to him reminding him of his ancestors from Scotland and keeping him away from the crowds. He is a despot, so we have to treat him like one. Suck up at the beginning, form a bond over mutual territory, get the information and then pull the plug when he is weak.

sugarrosepetal · 01/03/2025 01:55

DancefloorAcrobatics · 28/02/2025 18:47

Sadly if you look at cold war battle plans, Europe as we know it would have been wiped out... we are not far off with Putin & Trump playing together.... anyone remember the Hitler Stalin pact?

There was a prophecy years ago that Europe would be no longer and that the West would be a third world. I think it was Baba Vanga that said it. The blind woman.

Sadly, I fear with Trump and Putin at the helm, this may become reality if they are not stopped. Trump is using Zelensky as his scapegoat to start WW3.

SammyScrounge · 01/03/2025 02:07

LuluBlakey1 · 28/02/2025 18:14

I am not a big Zelensky fan but Trump and Vance were disgusting - completely undignified, bullying, ill-mannered, inappropriate. It was a pile-on and definitely a double act that had been discussed, in some way, previously.

Absolutely right. Trump staged this disgusting performance beginning with accusing Zelenski of being a dictator, of starting the war and then not finishing it, and all the while Trump and Putin were in discussions planning Ukraine's future.for their own benefit and profit.
Putin must be laughing his head off at Zelenski's public humiliation by playground bullies masquerading as statesmen.⁹

RestlessSparrow · 01/03/2025 02:08

Not even sure Trump is the problem, he is just an old narcissist being manipulated by Musk and the tech bros. If feeling powerless and shrugging that we didn't get a vote - maybe we can ask ourselves if we would be willing to delete our Amazon, Facebook, WhatsApp, Insta. Bezos and Zuckerberg are far more vulenerable than Musk. Meta I think is especially vulnerable to a backlash

doubleshotcappuccino · 01/03/2025 02:23

Horrendous to see a brave man stand his ground on their turf and in their language. Mumsnet is a great force for good - I hope we can put out might behind stopping the State Visit . If we go together our efforts could be huge

Yalta · 01/03/2025 02:25

Since when did America start supporting communist dictators?

HauntedBungalow · 01/03/2025 02:38

They've supported plenty of dictators. Not communist though, and usually guys they've chosen themselves.

Yalta · 01/03/2025 02:45

I never thought that the Land of the Free would ever have supported Communism so seen it all now

How many will it take for the penny to drop before we have a repeat of September 15th

SammyScrounge · 01/03/2025 02:57

Hooliewhat · 28/02/2025 22:39

Vile. So very sad. Clever, evil on Trumps part, clearly he had organised an assault on him
with all of his cronies prior to the meeting. Trump just doesn’t give a Shit about the world or any of its people so long as he gets his stage and time in history.

Trump has lost his chance to be a hero in history. He may be a big burly man but it is little Zelenski who will be remembered as heroic. Think of him going round so many countries pleading for aid for Ukraine, standing firm against monstrous Putin and bully boy Trump, being ganged up on in the Oval Office, a place once sacred to Americans (never again after today) and ultimately evicted from the White House.
No one is going to forget the contempt (totally undeserved) the Americans showed for a brave and determined man

Joystir59 · 01/03/2025 02:57

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Sooverwork · 01/03/2025 03:14

LuluBlakey1 · 28/02/2025 18:14

I am not a big Zelensky fan but Trump and Vance were disgusting - completely undignified, bullying, ill-mannered, inappropriate. It was a pile-on and definitely a double act that had been discussed, in some way, previously.

This . I’m not a fan of Zelensky either but Trump set the tone at the start with belittling comments about his outfit. Then that idiot WH reporter asking him if he owns a suit. Pretty sure that’s the last thing on the mind of a leader of a war torn country. The whole thing was just a car crash . The USA government are nothing short of a gangster demanding protection money.

user1492757084 · 01/03/2025 03:32

And here's me thinking that the US and most of the rest of the World helped The Ukraine because they recognised Putin to be a bully to his own people, to his close neighbours and a threat to European peace and stability.
Do most American people support Putin as dictator?
If not, Trump is out of line.

user1492757084 · 01/03/2025 03:44

I hope King Charles wears his gardening clothes to greet Trump.
Our old Queen, and our present King, would never be so unkind as to comment on another's dress. The British treat guests with respect and common Christian decency.

Our planet, trees and animals can not repay us a dime either; Trump will belittle the environment and not protect our water ways.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 01/03/2025 03:50

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I'm not familiar with the publication, but the poster is correct. It does seem as though the MP in question is working for Russia.

www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/who-is-oleksandr-dubinsky-ukrainian-mp-calls-for-zelenskys-impeachment-amid-trump-fallout-101740791075822-amp.html

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