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Zelensky - Trump meeting.…just horrible. BBC news live.

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JanieJS · 28/02/2025 18:08

Scary stuff.

I don't know what to say.

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nearlylovemyusername · 28/02/2025 22:29

faffadoodledo · 28/02/2025 21:42

I've stopped using Amazon. Can't remember the last thing I bought from there. Not that my mini boycott makes a blind bit of difference 😂

Me too! Every little helps. If all of us stopped using Amazon / FBook/Twatter/Netflix etc just for a few months it would make a significant difference.

birdcake · 28/02/2025 22:30

nearlylovemyusername · 28/02/2025 22:29

Me too! Every little helps. If all of us stopped using Amazon / FBook/Twatter/Netflix etc just for a few months it would make a significant difference.

yep me also! I think we're all adding up TBH.

RareMaker · 28/02/2025 22:30

Weird.

Worrying.

Myfluffyblanket · 28/02/2025 22:30

I'm not generally cynical but I've just watched it and noticed that President Zelensky's chair is bigger than Trump's . It makes Trump look a bigger man , filling his seat .
Pres. Zelensky had loads of spare seat and looked 'little' by comparison . The men are of similar size, power suit notwithstanding.

ZebedeeDougalFlorence · 28/02/2025 22:32

Howsitnearlyxmas · 28/02/2025 18:11

I hope Starmer speaks up on this. Bullying driven by ego.

He won't.

ZebedeeDougalFlorence · 28/02/2025 22:34

birdcake · 28/02/2025 22:30

yep me also! I think we're all adding up TBH.

I use it for convenience, but I am going to stop. I don't use X/twitter or Facebook anymore, although my accounts still exit. I am going to delete them.

DdraigGoch · 28/02/2025 22:34

SassK · 28/02/2025 19:01

Correct.

Russia keeping the land they've taken is deeply unfair, however it's the only viable path to peace.

Have you seen Russia's demands? They don't just want the land they've already taken, they're demanding more of it, they're demanding land which currently remains in Ukrainian hands, land which includes significant population centres. Cities like Zaporizhzhia.

NotTerfNorCis · 28/02/2025 22:34

BIossomtoes · 28/02/2025 22:11

Of course they don’t. They just made that up - a bit like their supposed illustrious military past.

Going through the video to try to find the bit where the argument started. It's here. Nothing about Zelenskyy insisting on American boots on the ground.

Zelenskyy: The deal I signed with him, Macron and Merkel, and - was signed cease-fire, cease-fire. All of them told me that he will never go. We signed him with gas contract. Yes but after that, he broken the cease fire. He killed our people, and he didn't exchange prisoners. We signed the exchange of prisoners, but he didn't do it. What kind of diplomacy, JD, are you speaking about? What do you mean?

Vance: I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that is going to end the destruction of your country.

Zelenskyy: Yeah but if -

Vance: Mr President, Mr President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful of you to come into the Oval Office trying to litigate this in front of the American media. Right now you guys are going around and forcing concripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the Presiden for trying to bring an end to this conflict -

Zelenskyy: You haven't been to Ukraine that you've seen what problems we have.

Vance: I have been to ... I've actually watched and seen the stories, and I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour Mr President. Do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people into your military? Do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of America

Zelenskyy: I will answer, I will answer -

Vance: ... and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country?

Zelenskyy: That's a lot of questions, let's start from the beginning.

Vance: Sure.

Zelenskyy: First of all, during the war, everyone has problems. Even you, but you have nice ocean. You won't feel now, but you will feel it in the future.

Trump: You don't know that, you don't know that.

Zelenskyy: God Bless, God Bless, God Bless you are not at war.

Trump: Don't tell us what we're gonna feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're gonna feel.

Zelenskyy: I'm not telling you -

Trump: Because you're in no position to dictate that. You are in no position to dictate what we're gonna feel.

Zelenskyy: I am -

Trump: We're gonna feel very good. We're gonna feel very good and very strong.

Zelenskyy: You will feel influence.

Trump: You're right now not in a very good position. You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position.

<At this point Trump is repeating himself, talking over Zelenskyy, and it's hard to tell what Zelenskyy is trying to say.>

Iloveanicegarden · 28/02/2025 22:35

Could we use people power to get the invitation for the state visit to be withdrawn. How do I (we) start a petition?

Topseyt123 · 28/02/2025 22:35

Disgraceful behaviour by Trump and Vance. Utterly vile.

I wish Trump hadn't been offered a state visit to the UK, and think that it should be rescinded now. I doubt it will be though.

BIossomtoes · 28/02/2025 22:36

Iloveanicegarden · 28/02/2025 22:35

Could we use people power to get the invitation for the state visit to be withdrawn. How do I (we) start a petition?

That’s a terrible idea.

Horriblevirusagain · 28/02/2025 22:36

Am pleased Trump put that criminal in his place. All Zelensky does is flit around the world in his green tracksuit taking millions of pounds off each country to buy his mansions and live.the high life. Meanwhile young men and women are dying in his country or losing limbs. He doesn't want peace because it will mean the end of his handouts !! Vile man!!

bombastix · 28/02/2025 22:37

Horriblevirusagain · 28/02/2025 22:36

Am pleased Trump put that criminal in his place. All Zelensky does is flit around the world in his green tracksuit taking millions of pounds off each country to buy his mansions and live.the high life. Meanwhile young men and women are dying in his country or losing limbs. He doesn't want peace because it will mean the end of his handouts !! Vile man!!

I hope you got a lot of roubles for this

BIossomtoes · 28/02/2025 22:38

bombastix · 28/02/2025 22:37

I hope you got a lot of roubles for this

Unlikely. I imagine there are quality standards.

Horriblevirusagain · 28/02/2025 22:38

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TheNuthatch · 28/02/2025 22:39

nearlylovemyusername · 28/02/2025 22:16

Bravo Zelensky!

If other leaders of free world could actually see now that it's possible not to lick the boots but to tell Trump to f... off and unite and stop this US/Russia insanity

Agree totally.
I was in favourl of the diplomatic approach until tonight. Enough is enough. European leaders are releasing statements in support of Ukraine, but none of them criticising Trump.

Hooliewhat · 28/02/2025 22:39

Vile. So very sad. Clever, evil on Trumps part, clearly he had organised an assault on him
with all of his cronies prior to the meeting. Trump just doesn’t give a Shit about the world or any of its people so long as he gets his stage and time in history.

LondonPapa · 28/02/2025 22:39

Horriblevirusagain · 28/02/2025 22:36

Am pleased Trump put that criminal in his place. All Zelensky does is flit around the world in his green tracksuit taking millions of pounds off each country to buy his mansions and live.the high life. Meanwhile young men and women are dying in his country or losing limbs. He doesn't want peace because it will mean the end of his handouts !! Vile man!!

Uh huh. You okay? Seems you’ve mistaken Zelenskyy for Orban. Or any number of Russian stooges in Europe and the US.

sherbertcandy · 28/02/2025 22:42

There was only one president in that room and it was the one not in a suit! Vance and Trump set him up to humiliate him and shout him down. Would love to know what Putin has on Trump to make him kiss his feet!!!

BBQHulaHoops · 28/02/2025 22:42

Can some one show the legitimate evidence for the claims of Zelenskyy's corruption. This from USA today says it's just not true: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/04/05/fact-check-post-unsupported-claim-ukraine-president-volodymyr-zelenskyy-assets-and-income/11592626002/

saltywordsalad · 28/02/2025 22:43

Nothatgingerpirate · 28/02/2025 20:23

Massive respect to Trump and Vance for talking straight to that clown and finally putting it as it is.
From a Czech person.
Nobody dared or thought it "morally fitting" to put Mr. Zelensky in place, for three years. Until now.
👍

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 28/02/2025 22:44

Some journalist said he used to wonder whether America would become a rogue state. Well, he won’t need to wonder any more.

YourAzureEagle · 28/02/2025 22:45

sherbertcandy · 28/02/2025 22:42

There was only one president in that room and it was the one not in a suit! Vance and Trump set him up to humiliate him and shout him down. Would love to know what Putin has on Trump to make him kiss his feet!!!

Unfortunately Zelensky (who is, in my opinion a great man) set himself up by

A/- Not wearing a suit, something that there ceased upon to start the tussle

B/- Not speaking Ukrainian via an interpreter, which would have made sniping at him more tricky.

Still would have been a tough ride.

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