Dominic Cummings is Musk's informer

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It's been revealed in multiple media sources after much speculation that Dominic Cummings has been whatsapping Musk with strategies to undermine the UK government and our democracy. For a while commentators have been speculating that Musk must have a hard right UK informant, since he's not across any detail himself and really has no understanding of the UK or our political system himself (see his comments about asking the King to dissolve the government). He's clearly been radicalised by watching Tommy Robinson's videos, and now we discover it's Cummings up to his dark tricks again.

I don't think I've ever wished harm to another person but honestly I wish Cummings would just bugger off for good.

Jess Philips has been working in support of women who have experience violence since before she entered parliament.

What have Musk and Cummings done other than postured online when it’s in their interests to do so.

"Zuck's platform"? 👀

Yes. And what's your point? I don't have to agree with 100% of what anyone says. I do have a brain that (occasionally) works. But the proof of the pudding is in the eating. What has been the outcome of Elon Musk highlighting this issue? Wall to wall coverage. Labour I would suspect are.highly likely to end up backing down on the national enquiry point. And that's in large part due to Elon Musk like it or not. He's made some good points about this country. Some aren't obviously but some are.

But that doesn't make sense. Surely anyone who is critical of Labour over this issue is also critical of the Tories? And Reform for that matter. None of them had a national enquiry in their manifesto, or even mentioned it before about 2 weeks ago.
Of course for current actions/decisons, that is all on Labour. But no one can reasonably say "well done Reform/Tories for fighting for this cause so well". Shadow ministers who used to be in the actual home office acting as if this inquiry is all they've ever wanted is laughable, or it would be if it wasn't so obvious they don't give a shit about these victims. Musk hasn't uncovered a secret. These people were all aware of this issue last year, and for years before that.

I don’t disagree with any of that, except for Zuckerberg: he’s taking advantage of Trump being in office, not following Musk.

My disagreement was with your statement that you doubted Trump would have been reelected without Musk. I think he would have been.

But my bigger point is that if we’re going to take a dim view of people abroad saying things about British politics we have to be consistent and not hypocritical.

So Labour - or other - politicians’ statements about Trump - or other US politicians - would be outlawed, as would statements by rich, high-profile Brits.

Similarly, if wealthy and prominent Dems like Buffett or Clooney go public with negative views about UK parties and policies, their statements should be jumped on and erased.

I don’t believe any of that should happen.

TBH, all in all, I think Musk is a terrible (self-appointed) advertisement for a grooming gang-specific enquiry, which in all other respects is not a bad thing to propose.

Also intrigued by the term “informant” - as if it’s somehow illegal to have a conversation or relationship with someone.

Thanks to the Internet, it’s pretty easy to learn about the politics in different countries. Informant has like a Game of Thrones vibe - whispering and burning secret notes delivered by ravens or something.

Has Starmer forgotten this ? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62m2pde4p6o

Fine, and the Cummings stuff is meh because I'm sure he's like a gnat to Musk. But it is explicitly bad he's intervening - all the noise and he's ignoring and undoing lots of careful, slow work that HAS been done on this issue in the last few years.

I've a family member that works with vulnerable kids and they get loads of training on spotting grooming, how to respond to girls at risk and professionals are very switched on to it in way they evidently werent 20 years ago. And he just swoops in a stirs it up as makes people feel more hostile to authorities and institutions who are trying to improve but can only do so slowly.

This issue is very specific though and has extra elements that need to be specifically dealt with, mainly the cover up and refusal by the police and authorities to prosecute due to fear of being branded far right racists.

I think it's important that people who made the decisions are held and seen to be held accountable. The person ultimately responsible for prosecutions (or not prosecuting) let's face it is in Number 10 now.

So in all your forensic perusal of this issue you failed to notice that the DPP at the time made changes to the CPS to increase prosecutions?

What has happened? Jess Phillips unable to leave the house on her own and being in fear for her life (I suspect the same for Starmer too). The Tories, in an incredibly cynical move trying to use the inquiry call to block a schools bill that they object to, knowing that Labour would be whipped to vote for the schools bill and their names would then be put online as 'enablers of child abuse'. Labour, retaliating with similar claims about those who voted against the schools bill. Piers Morgan having to school foreigners like Jordan Peterson on why Tommy Robinson isn't a brave political prisoner jailed for truth-telling but in fact in prison for something he pleaded guilty to, that he nearly collapsed two grooming trials and has a long history of crimes and thuggery. Britain's international reputation being actively damaged.

And an inquiry into what? Some want an inquiry to find out whether Starmer was complicit in mass rape. Others want an inquiry into Muslims. Some want an inquiry into the 'cover-up'. Not many seem particularly interested in the outcomes of all the other inquiries because they didn't lead to the exact recommendation that they are really after (Starmer resigning/mass deportation of Muslims).

Keir Starmer failed in his job and ordered that the prosecution of a rape gang be stopped which led to the Greater Manchester Police stopping wider investigation into Asian rape gangs. He has admitted his own failures.
He also has ultimate responsibility for the whole of the CPS. He's proud of holding that position but also needs to take responsibility for it's failings to all those girls. He has admitted those failures and, egregiously, that the failure to prosecute was due to the racial element.

And yet he has not been held accountable, was not sacked and appears to now be Prime Minister.

Ah, @Hoppingabout I see you want the inquiry that ends in Starmer resigning.

https://fullfact.org/online/starmer-muslim-grooming-prosecution-crime/

Here you go.

Wrong.

You're lumping everything into one mass without picking out the important part which is how to find out who is accountable for the failure to stop the mass rapes. Yes it's going to be horrendous for everyone but the way to diffuse the tension is to establish what went wrong, who made the decisions and hold them accountable. Not dodging an enquiry that would look at all the cases in the poor northern towns, specifically and comprehensively consider grooming gangs and join the dots nationwide.

He's not an "informer". We're not a secret club.
Half a minute on UK X would show you that people are pissed off about the widespread institutional failures to tackle p@edophile gangs and the incontinent spending on drag queen awareness etc

You seem to think that it is Keir Starmer.

Why do you think that?

Can you give a bit more detail of when he ordered a prosecution to be stopped?

Or do you actually mean that, on his watch, prosecutions did not proceed because the rules at the time place too much emphasis on the credibility of witnesses?

Rules that he subsequently reformed so that cases went ahead.

Here you go. The Telegraph which I find more reliable. Screenshot as there may be a paywall.

The barrister involved in prosecutions in this area wrote a book about it years ago (took ages to scroll back through my Kindle library to find it).
It’s worth a read and demonstrates clearly that this is and was all known about.

No I don't think it's just him as presumably it's been going on for years.

It's incredibly funny that you think that the Telegraph is reliable on the topic of Keir Starmer, but if you read the full fact article it explains that Keir Starmer was saying why changes were being made under his watch to stop this happening.

"Overwhelming evidence of their guilt"

For years? Try since the dawn of time in any situation where there are men with authority over others (cf. RC and CofE churches, boarding schools scandals etc etc). Depressing but true. Safeguarding basic ‘It COULD happen here’.