So does "far right" mean you're concerned about the impacts of mass immigration?

[genesis92]

Cause I'm far right if so then!

Genuinely interested to hear what people consider as being "far right". I put it in quotation marks cause the term is so over-used incorrectly, it's actually lost all meaning.

Being concerned about potential impacts of mass immigration is not far right, what’s far right is ultra-nationalism, nativism and xenophobia.

I do think a lot of far right types like to dress up racism and extremist ideology and pretend they’re just ‘concerned about immigration’

Wanting to keep Britain white is far right.
Wanting remigration is far right.
Wanting a two tier system where people of a different ethnicity are treated differently is far right.
Wanting to take away some people's human rights because they're foreign is far right.

I have concerns about it too but I know I am absolutely not far right.

Well it depends on what your concerns are and whether those concerns change depending on where someone is from.

No. I have concerns about mass immigration as do many in the UK. It was a big topic at the GE. I'm left of centre and no one has ever called me far right for my my views on immigration or on women's rights.

But I get that you are concerned and far right @genesis92.

Far right is a messed up term now. It did traditionally include being against immigration amongst other things (e.g. racial supremacy) but I don't think it is fair to call people who are concerned that multi-culturalism has not worked as planned, a derogatory term.

This is an example of the narrative from the 2006 about the waves of immigration. People were very optimistic - people thought multiculturalism would work, genuinely:

"In time, integration and acceptance are inevitable. No matter how disadvantaged they were when they arrived, every community seems to settle and prosper in the end. The only variable is the speed at which this happens, and it is happening far more quickly than it used to"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/jan/23/britishidentity.features118

Unless you believe in having totally open borders for absolutely anyone who wants to come here....then you are a person with concerns over immigration. I'd imagine virtually everyone thinks we need some sort of controls and policies. Concerns over immigration aren't necessarily far right.

I'm concerned about mass immigration, and I'm definitely not far right (my paternal family had a pretty shit WWII at the hand of fascists).

I would just like to add, I do not consider myself far right, however it just feels that term is now used for people who want to lower immigration. And to answer a PP - no my concerns about it do not change depending on where a person is from, or whether they are white, black or brown.

Blaming everything that's wrong with this country on immigrants is 'far right'.

Referring to immigrants as 'illegals' and 'invaders' is far right.

My family were immigrants and I am concerned about immigration, I don’t consider myself far right in the least.

Well - that's the accusation that you hear from a lot of Reform UK social media feeds.

Along with 'you can't say anything these days without someone being offended'.

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Thinking the answer to our society’s problems is stopping “them” coming here is pretty far right.
Understanding that migration and immigration can be and should be much better managed than it currently is is not far right.

There’s always been mass migration to these islands, so it’s just your inner prejudices. Many legal immigrants come here to work, or else they’d have to leave as per immigration law. The ones I assume you’re referring to are illegal migrants.

Far right has a very clear meaning and it's disengenuous to suggest it doesn't. Look it up.

If people are accusing you of being far right because you're concerned that the government are letting in too many immigrants, then they're using far right incorrectly.

Far left is used incorrectly a lot as well. It doesn't seem it's lost all meaning, it means that people are talking hyperbolic nonsense which shouldn't surprise you on social media.

What are your specific concerns about migration?

Of the people came to live in the UK in the year to June 2024,

1.000,000 non-EU nationals
120,000 EU nationals
60,000 British nationals

The main reasons for the increase in non-EU immigration are:

1. people coming to work legally on work visas, including care workers, doctors and nurses
2. International students, who come on student visas and pay a lot for studying in the UK.

What do you want politicians to do?

That's what a lot of far right people say they are. Scratch the surface though....

What happens if we scratch your surface, @genesis92?

Another from a family of immigrants concerned about immigration. Skills levels and numbers are important. Support for immigration drops if they only person that benefits is the immigrant. It’s perfectly reasonable for the UK to benefit from immigration in some substantive way and turn down immigration that is not going to be of any benefit.

It's layered and nuance a lot of the justification for lowering immigration is rooted in far right politics and we see this as the same arguments weren't used for Ukrainian immigrants as an example who were largely white.

But a lot of the discussion turns racist

Ha, so you've proved exactly the point I was making. Many thanks!

Well these are exactly my thoughts on immigration as well.

There literally has not ALWAYS been mass immigration to these islands?! What utter nonsense

For many far right is anyone slightly to the right from Corbyn,

This tendency to smear will land us all with a Farrage government.