So does "far right" mean you're concerned about the impacts of mass immigration?

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Cause I'm far right if so then!

Genuinely interested to hear what people consider as being "far right". I put it in quotation marks cause the term is so over-used incorrectly, it's actually lost all meaning.

Olivia and Muhammad, meanwhile, were the most popular girl and boy names respectively

Ok, so why don't you believe in open borders?

Crime for one, and this includes anything from drug running, sex trafficking, human trafficking , kidnappings, terrorism etc.

Shit infrastructure that is unable to cope.

These are the two main ones for me as an immigrant.

Absolutely correct. Migration on the scale we have now has never occurred before. We are importing people who we cannot integrate and assimilate as we need to in order to ensure that our society stays peaceful and cohesive.

@Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast Slightly off topic, but one of my friends is married to a white American, lived in the US for 20-plus years and then decided to move back to the UK. No problem for her and her teenagers with dual citizenship, but it was so difficult getting a visa for her husband. Reams of paperwork and they even had to produce photos showing them together over the decades. It wasn’t an easy process at all.

I’ve done the reverse, moved to the US with my American husband, but moving to the UK with a spouse sounds even harder.

In a newly released annual report, the Danish Ministry of Finance revealed that the net cost of immigration from non-Western countries, after tax contributions had been deduced, amounted to €4.2 billion ($4.8 billion) in the year 2018.

A team led by mathematician Jan H. van de Beek at the University of Amsterdam estimates that the Dutch government spent approximately €17 billion per year on migration in the period between 1995 and 2019, meaning that more than one billion euros went to migration-related issues every month.

The study digs deeper still: annual net costs of non-Western immigration amount to €17 billion and the annual net benefits of Western immigration total one billion euros. Distinguishing between Western and non-Western migration patterns, the study comes to a startling conclusion: if immigration remains at 2015-2019 levels, the annual budget burden will increase from €17 billion in 2016 to about €50 billion. This is an increase that the welfare state would most likely not survive.

Diversity is our greatest strength.

excellent post - I think the problem is most people have no clue that before the middle of this century, white Brits will become a minority. We are sleepwalking into becoming like the Balkans, with all of the associated social and religious issues.

I was induced and kept in labour for six days because there were empty labour rooms and no midwives. Most had returned home after Brexit and Covid.

So my concern is that there are actually not enough immigrants.

Yup that’ll be the problem 😳

Why are you posting reports from the Netherlands?

We're giving people visas who either study or work in the UK. Universities depend on foreign cash and we have many thousand NHS vacancies amongst others.

Should we stop filling vacancies and universities with foreign workers?

Agreed. You can already see issues such as Gaza affecting the election of MPs and their subsequent behaviour. The fact we now have someone standing up in the H of C requesting the return of blasphemy law and the PM saying he will give it consideration. No thanks. I don't fancy living in a country with any Islamic law affecting me, particularly being a woman.

Don't allow dependants of students automatic residency.

The NHS worker argument is relevant but self-perpetuating. Those additional incoming workers will need looking after eventually.

Was it the more in common or the yougov poll the other day that reported that 70% of people in this country think that immigration is either too high or far too high? If the left paint everyone who is concerned about immigration as far right, or only a talking point of the right then they will completely shoot themselves in the foot.

No. Far right just means that you're too blinded by the racist rhetoric surrounding immigration to be able to approach the subject rationally, and to understand the considerable net benefit that it contributes to our society.

Apparently so 🙄

So if you believe it's a net benefit...is there a limit at which you think it would no longer be beneficial?

It's a pyramid scheme

So you think mothers should be separated from their children for years?

Unbelievable. Are we really in this country unable to produce UK trained midwives? Is the training better in countries from where the midwives come from? Unlikely. Labour really need to get on to that one as that is such a ridiculous reason to have to import people to "serve us" and therefore unable to act as midwives in countries that desperately need midwives. And it's a fantastic profession.

Don't come.here to study some crap degree then. I wouldn't go to America to do a degree and expect to bring my entire family unless I could support them all financially and not be a net drain on the economy.

Such annoying arguments at the moment! It's like we've given up as a country.

I always want to know the difference between 'immigration' and 'mass immigration'.

The 'mass' is always a bit of a dog whistle sounding word to me. All immigration is probably 'mass' unless you're somewhere like the Vatican letting one person in at a time

We need foreign students to keep universities open. We depend on foreign students.

You're arguing that mothers shouldn't study in the UK yet talking about annoying arguments.

@username299 , we already have a two tier system. Try telling the poor girls who were (and probably still are) victims of the ‘grooming (rape) gangs that we don’t.

Yeah I don’t care about colour I care about contribution. If people are going to be creating value then they are valuable to me. I suspect you may be a teensy weeny bit racist.

Just look at the post 1997 figures and compare with the pre 1997 figures and you will have your (obvious) answer.