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Some Trump supporters already feeling voter's remorse

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MsAmerica · 14/11/2024 00:41

I wonder why, what particular thing made them change their minds, at this late date, after just a week.

Of course, it confirms my opinion of the stupidity of Trumpers, that they're so ignorant that they imagine you can change your vote after the fact.

'How To Change My Vote' Searches Spike in States Won By Donald Trump
Newsweek
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-how-change-vote-election-day-1984939

The Most Infuriating Search Term Is Trending in States Trump Won
Donald Trump’s supporters suddenly seem a lot less sure of their decision.
New Republic
https://newrepublic.com/post/188357/donald-trump-search-term-change-vote

'How to Change My Vote' Google Searches Surge in Trump States After Election
The term was most searched in many red states won by Trump
International Business Times
https://www.ibtimes.com/how-change-my-vote-google-searches-surge-trump-states-after-election-3750885

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Lonelycrab · 17/11/2024 22:46

Talkinpeace · 17/11/2024 22:42

@Lonelycrab
Starmer got more seats with less votes because the alternative was utterly shite.
It was a vote against rather than a vote for
and all Labour strategists are aware of such.

THe Democrats bollocksed up the election
hopefully they will wake up and smell the coffee before the mid terms

I am in complete agreement with you in that; the democrats completely screwed up. Doesn’t change the fact that in terms of governmental power the republicans have achieved a landslide- the house and the senate, and a deeply wounded Democratic Party.

Talkinpeace · 17/11/2024 23:05

Gaetz is loathed by 99% of his party and 100% of the Democrats

Popcorn at the ready

Llhaaf · 17/11/2024 23:08

I don’t believe those headlines for a second op, at least not as far as Republicans are concerned.

My experience since the election is that there has been a shift in Republican voters from a fear that the election would be stolen, to a feeling of hope and joy.

I know it’s really hard for people on the left to come to terms with, that people voted for Trump. That Trump is making some pretty ballsy appointments and is going to make some big moves that might alter the course of issues like immigration, war, net zero and gender identity, not just in America but that may cause reverberations all over the world.

I personally have high hopes and feel a lot better now than I did this time last month, and I’m not even America. But we’re going to the US to help celebrate in February after the inauguration.

The point is that Trump won and the voters are celebrating for the most part. It might make you feel a bit better to call those people names and think they are weeping now over their choice, but that would be a load of rubbish.

Roll on January 20th!

username358 · 17/11/2024 23:11

USA! USA!✊🇺🇲

YourAzureEagle · 17/11/2024 23:28

MsAmerica · 14/11/2024 00:41

I wonder why, what particular thing made them change their minds, at this late date, after just a week.

Of course, it confirms my opinion of the stupidity of Trumpers, that they're so ignorant that they imagine you can change your vote after the fact.

'How To Change My Vote' Searches Spike in States Won By Donald Trump
Newsweek
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-how-change-vote-election-day-1984939

The Most Infuriating Search Term Is Trending in States Trump Won
Donald Trump’s supporters suddenly seem a lot less sure of their decision.
New Republic
https://newrepublic.com/post/188357/donald-trump-search-term-change-vote

'How to Change My Vote' Google Searches Surge in Trump States After Election
The term was most searched in many red states won by Trump
International Business Times
https://www.ibtimes.com/how-change-my-vote-google-searches-surge-trump-states-after-election-3750885

Frankly, anyone in a democracy who searches "how to change my vote" after the election, really shouldn't be allowed to vote in the first place.

user44221 · 18/11/2024 04:02

Llhaaf · 17/11/2024 23:08

I don’t believe those headlines for a second op, at least not as far as Republicans are concerned.

My experience since the election is that there has been a shift in Republican voters from a fear that the election would be stolen, to a feeling of hope and joy.

I know it’s really hard for people on the left to come to terms with, that people voted for Trump. That Trump is making some pretty ballsy appointments and is going to make some big moves that might alter the course of issues like immigration, war, net zero and gender identity, not just in America but that may cause reverberations all over the world.

I personally have high hopes and feel a lot better now than I did this time last month, and I’m not even America. But we’re going to the US to help celebrate in February after the inauguration.

The point is that Trump won and the voters are celebrating for the most part. It might make you feel a bit better to call those people names and think they are weeping now over their choice, but that would be a load of rubbish.

Roll on January 20th!

I know it’s really hard for people on the left to come to terms with, that people voted for Trump.

I think, considering how hard it seemed for people on the right to come to terms with the fact that people voted for Biden (wah wah wah, the election was stolen, let's storm the capital, brutalise law enforcement and shit in the halls), it might just slightly behoove Republicans to think about being more gracious in victory?

Especially considering that

The point is that Trump won and the voters are celebrating for the most part.

is quite the overstatement. The up-to-date vote count is 49.96% Trump to 48.24% Harris, implying a highly divided country in which nearly half are not celebrating at all.

pretty ballsy appointments

I suppose that's one way of saying that these horrifyingly unqualified appointees represent his brutal shambolic carelessness toward the country he's supposed to lead.

Loxiro · 18/11/2024 04:14

I agree @user44221 and it’s interesting language isn’t it?

Republicans or rather MAGA weren’t worried about being defeated or losing but having the election “stolen”. It just shows their victim /sore loser mentality and what a hard time the US would’ve had even if Trump had lost fair and square.

And to accuse democrats of being anything less than democratic and reasonable after how peacefully they are giving up power compared to the storm the capital madness is a joke.

People are allowed to be angry, disappointed or shocked that Trump won and even to be disgusted at half the electorate. I have friends in the US (including people who have traditionally voted republican pre-2016) that refuse to have people in their life - friends /family - that voted for trump as it goes against everything they believe in and they believe it’s a sign of a person lacking morals and decency.

As long as they’re not acting like the violent maniacs who descended upon DC last time Trump lost, it’s all a reasonable,
proportionate and acceptable response. The only “extreme” and intolerant response to election results I’ve seen in America ever was the violent shameful storm the capital gang. Believing that people are stupid or misinformed or bigoted is not actually extreme.

Llhaaf · 18/11/2024 05:44

user44221 · 18/11/2024 04:02

I know it’s really hard for people on the left to come to terms with, that people voted for Trump.

I think, considering how hard it seemed for people on the right to come to terms with the fact that people voted for Biden (wah wah wah, the election was stolen, let's storm the capital, brutalise law enforcement and shit in the halls), it might just slightly behoove Republicans to think about being more gracious in victory?

Especially considering that

The point is that Trump won and the voters are celebrating for the most part.

is quite the overstatement. The up-to-date vote count is 49.96% Trump to 48.24% Harris, implying a highly divided country in which nearly half are not celebrating at all.

pretty ballsy appointments

I suppose that's one way of saying that these horrifyingly unqualified appointees represent his brutal shambolic carelessness toward the country he's supposed to lead.

It feels as though the world has gone a bit mad, and a lot of that is down to the left’s ideologies. The money spent on ideological projects has made people poorer. I don’t blame Trump voters for feeling excited about putting in place a leader who has promised to reset and re-prioritise. I don’t think they need to be gracious, especially when they are being called uneducated, ignorant, racist etc

Trump voters ARE celebrating for the most part. Kamala voters won’t be, obviously. But the thread was about Trump voters feeling regret.

The appointments Trump has made are actually pretty pleasing, with a lot of people who have been business men, military and past ranchers etc rather than career politicians who have no idea. When you compare the appointments to our Labour Government for example, I think they could make a positive difference, but we’ll have to wait and see.

I think what I’m trying to say, is that the op is nonsense.

Alphaalga · 18/11/2024 06:07

I find the remorseful stupids more tolerable than the stupids who know they've done something stupid but continue to defend their stupidity with the same pride that makes them stupid.

Alphaalga · 18/11/2024 06:19

Llhaaf · 18/11/2024 05:44

It feels as though the world has gone a bit mad, and a lot of that is down to the left’s ideologies. The money spent on ideological projects has made people poorer. I don’t blame Trump voters for feeling excited about putting in place a leader who has promised to reset and re-prioritise. I don’t think they need to be gracious, especially when they are being called uneducated, ignorant, racist etc

Trump voters ARE celebrating for the most part. Kamala voters won’t be, obviously. But the thread was about Trump voters feeling regret.

The appointments Trump has made are actually pretty pleasing, with a lot of people who have been business men, military and past ranchers etc rather than career politicians who have no idea. When you compare the appointments to our Labour Government for example, I think they could make a positive difference, but we’ll have to wait and see.

I think what I’m trying to say, is that the op is nonsense.

Be interesting to hear you explain how much of the economic cesspit the tories left us in is down to "the left's ideologies."

Good example of what I was on about in my previous post though, thanks.👍

bozzabollix · 18/11/2024 06:28

Nordione1 · 17/11/2024 18:08

Who is the "us"? You and your dog?

I hate to break it to you, but as I said earlier there's no Big Judge keeping score about the "right" and "wrong" way to vote. People vote for what is important to them and walk in their own shoes not yours. And counterfactuals aren't real or provable.

Anyway I've made my point and have no need to continue arguing the point for the next..what is it now..eight years?

I’d be interested to hear your views on whether the German nation was wrong to vote in the populist Nazis in 1933?

On the basis of looking back through history, there are definite times when the electorate have been wrong and have voted against their own interests.

Llhaaf · 18/11/2024 06:29

Alphaalga · 18/11/2024 06:19

Be interesting to hear you explain how much of the economic cesspit the tories left us in is down to "the left's ideologies."

Good example of what I was on about in my previous post though, thanks.👍

Tories just as bad, particularly in the last 4-5 years.
Time to give another party a shot.

Iamthemoom · 18/11/2024 06:57

@Parker231 "Won’t be for long when they see what he gets up to. Seeing his senior appointments should give them a clue."

I only know one Trump supporter personally and from his social media posts I'd say he's delighted by Trump's senior appointments. I suspect Trump will give his supporters exactly what they want (unlike most politicians once elected) and it will just make him even more popular.

OP, putting his win down to ignorance and lack of education isn't really helpful because it means writing off the feelings and views this huge number of people have instead of asking why and how they developed these views. The trump supporter I know is a very intelligent, caring, educated man and while I am appalled by Trump I want to understand why this family member supports him, what turned a very left leaning man into a Trump supporter in the space of 3 years. (He's a much loved family member so I'm not prepared to just shut him out of my life because our politics differ.)

Alphaalga · 18/11/2024 07:02

Llhaaf · 18/11/2024 06:29

Tories just as bad, particularly in the last 4-5 years.
Time to give another party a shot.

Look further right for solutions to problems caused by the right you mean?

Sense.

daisychain01 · 18/11/2024 07:06

Let's face it, anyone who googles "how to change my vote" after they've voted in a presidential election is thick as mince.

dubsie · 18/11/2024 07:10

You can call people stupid but plain hard cold fact is we have Brexit and a second Trump, the problem is how we stop populism because people have been persuaded to vote against there interests through populism.

Id say a lot of it is where people are finding there news, the truth in the UK is the vast majority don't read the guardian, the vast majority don't even read a decent paper....it's TikTok, Twitter, YouTube and the Daily Mail....is it any wonder why so many people don't understand or have a balanced educated view on a subject.

I'm not saying all of the content provided is untrue or biased but it doesn't often give the subscriber a broad understanding of the reality.

Id argue that Trump won because behind him he has Musk who happens to own Twitter (X). The lies and junk spread across this platform is not news but compared to the billion dollar media campaign run by the democrats managed to capture many more votes.

The question is how you stop it, censorship is not the answer but I do think content providers should be held accountable for lies or dangerous language. But I suppose Musk would regard that as police state....a platform that can whip up hatred that resulted in riots in the UK for example.

There will be positives from Trump but in the end America needs to accept that this might actually be the end of the freedom of democracy as they know it. This isn't any normal republican government....this is an extremely dangerous government very loyal to Trump and two terms won't be enough. He controls both houses and there will be zero accountability.He will stitch up the legal system and tear up parts of the constitution that he doesn't like, his enemies will be hit hard and that includes elements of the media that doesn't support him.

This is Christmas time for the extreme right in Israel and I pitty those Palestinians being turfed out of their homes by Jewish settlers.

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 18/11/2024 07:29

Controversial opinion alert - I think there are likely more people who regret voting for Keir Starmer than Trump.

At least with Trump people knew what they were voting for, however unsavoury that is.

But people mostly voted labour to get the Tories out, the low voter turnout is fair proof of that. And now that labour have come to power they have moved in and are pretty much throwing the electorate under a bus. Obliteration of the farming industry/getting rid of the WFA/increasing employers’ NI meaning potential job losses. I work for a huge employer and they are outsourcing a huge amount of their workforce abroad, likely not entirely motivated by the National insurance/minimum wage rises, but certainly something that is going to re-enforce their decision. VAT on private school fees which regardless of the arguments for or against is going to have a huge impact (and not a positive one) on state education. <disclaimer> I didn’t vote for either of them.

But tbh I think that ATM the whole world is in turmoil, I think that if you look at any government and world economy there isn’t a lot of stability anywhere. So what is the answer.

Nordione1 · 18/11/2024 08:18

bozzabollix · 18/11/2024 06:28

I’d be interested to hear your views on whether the German nation was wrong to vote in the populist Nazis in 1933?

On the basis of looking back through history, there are definite times when the electorate have been wrong and have voted against their own interests.

Ah well done. Nazi Germany is now Trump's America. There's no hyperbole in that statement whatsoever.

notinscotland · 18/11/2024 08:23

Tryingtokeepgoing · 14/11/2024 02:59

To be fair, there are plenty of people this side of the pond with voters remorse having seen the utter shambles of a Labour cabinet acting like kids in a sweet shop and, as became clear very quickly, not having a plan.

To be fair, there's always going to be either a Labour- or a Conservative- led government and Cabinet as long as people insist on having a UK, so unless and until these parties change from within it's kids in the sweet shop either way. It's not like Stephen Flynn is ever going to be UK PM.

dubsie · 18/11/2024 08:31

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 18/11/2024 07:29

Controversial opinion alert - I think there are likely more people who regret voting for Keir Starmer than Trump.

At least with Trump people knew what they were voting for, however unsavoury that is.

But people mostly voted labour to get the Tories out, the low voter turnout is fair proof of that. And now that labour have come to power they have moved in and are pretty much throwing the electorate under a bus. Obliteration of the farming industry/getting rid of the WFA/increasing employers’ NI meaning potential job losses. I work for a huge employer and they are outsourcing a huge amount of their workforce abroad, likely not entirely motivated by the National insurance/minimum wage rises, but certainly something that is going to re-enforce their decision. VAT on private school fees which regardless of the arguments for or against is going to have a huge impact (and not a positive one) on state education. <disclaimer> I didn’t vote for either of them.

But tbh I think that ATM the whole world is in turmoil, I think that if you look at any government and world economy there isn’t a lot of stability anywhere. So what is the answer.

Id have Starmer over the Tories or Reform any day, at least Labour aren't peddling popular politics that will cause long term real harm. What Labour are doing is getting Brits to take some pretty unpleasant medicine or order to give you a better future.

You won't have an NHS under Reform and the Tories will just run it down to force you to go private.

Labour are the only party offering better public services and taking the decisions now to secure much needed investment

Tryingtokeepgoing · 18/11/2024 08:40

dubsie · 18/11/2024 08:31

Id have Starmer over the Tories or Reform any day, at least Labour aren't peddling popular politics that will cause long term real harm. What Labour are doing is getting Brits to take some pretty unpleasant medicine or order to give you a better future.

You won't have an NHS under Reform and the Tories will just run it down to force you to go private.

Labour are the only party offering better public services and taking the decisions now to secure much needed investment

They are offering better public services by doing long term harm to the economy. None of the decisions they have taken will lead to more investment, other than by the government using borrowed money. Which inevitably will lead to worse public services as the cost of servicing more debt consumes the revenue raised from tax rises, and a stagnating economy delivers lower tax revenues. They have not been able to articulate or demonstrate how the better future will be delivered.

drspouse · 18/11/2024 10:48

Parker231 · 17/11/2024 18:10

Won’t be for long when they see what he gets up to. Seeing his senior appointments should give them a clue.

But they want those appointments too.

drspouse · 18/11/2024 10:52

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 17/11/2024 18:40

I found Bonnie Greer’s take it on interesting. I don’t agree with her on everything but she said:

  • America can be very inward looking. A lot of Americans don’t think about foreign policy or relationships with other nations.
  • Many tend not to even travel out of state, never mind outside the country.
  • Their view of politics is based what they see on TV, and they have been given a celebrity with catchphrases which they like.
  • They don’t live/breathe politics. They pick the person who promises them a better wage packet.

The above is not a direct quote, it’s my take on her words. I have two friends over there.
One is an SEN teacher, is loving, kind and very family centred. She is a Republican and votes Trump. She sees the GOP as a party of patriots.
My other friend is as well educated but is an absolute Democrat. Also family-orientated. Absolutely horrified by the result. Also such a generous person and civic minded.

Edited

Exactly this. Look at all the Americans getting ruffled on TwiX because Labour voters were campaigning for Harris and going over to work for the Harris campaign. They see it as unwarranted foreign interference and don't see why anyone else should even care who is in power in the US - they don't see that it affects the world because they are very inward looking.

hihelenhi · 18/11/2024 11:12

Trump is a disaster, but your sneery attitude that "everyone voted for him because they are thick" is, as others have said, a huge part of the problem. Nobody likes being called thick (do you like being called it? How are you likely to respond if someone calls you it?) That approach will not make such voters vote for the Dems next time if it continues. Sure, many are hardline MAGAists as usual, but what about those who WERE former Dem voters. So is that what you want, the same again next time, or even worse as Trump won't be able to run again personally? Because from where i'm sitting, it will just induce further votes a similar way in the long run. That is a big and realistic concern for us in the UK too with Reform. I really don't want them in next time and would very much like the (so called) left to change its approach to help avoid this, instead of the only other alternative being yet another return to the Tories.

So how about being more constructive than railing about Republican voter stupidity? What would you like to see happen to ensure the Dems get in next time? What would you actually change about how the Dems campaigned to try to secure a better result next time? Anything at all?

dubsie · 18/11/2024 11:20

They aren't borrowing more that's the point, that's what the Tories did....they are going to tax more and reduce borrowing.... sorry but those are the facts.

As for reform they are just Tories on steroids, yes they will reduce tax but the result will mean everything gets cut. Collective punishment and those that will pay the heavier price are those unable to buy what they have lost.

Have a look at Norway, Sweden, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark....high tax = better quality public services

Farage is a liar and utterly selfish, he doesn't represent anyone in his constituency because he's been too busy courting Trump.

I dislike dishonest populism, because the thing is it's so easy to say you can make things better and cut taxes because they are just words....once they are in power you watch them taking a wrecking ball to the state

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