Some Trump supporters already feeling voter's remorse

[MsAmerica]

I wonder why, what particular thing made them change their minds, at this late date, after just a week.

Of course, it confirms my opinion of the stupidity of Trumpers, that they're so ignorant that they imagine you can change your vote after the fact.

'How To Change My Vote' Searches Spike in States Won By Donald Trump
Newsweek
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-how-change-vote-election-day-1984939

The Most Infuriating Search Term Is Trending in States Trump Won
Donald Trump’s supporters suddenly seem a lot less sure of their decision.
New Republic
https://newrepublic.com/post/188357/donald-trump-search-term-change-vote

'How to Change My Vote' Google Searches Surge in Trump States After Election
The term was most searched in many red states won by Trump
International Business Times
https://www.ibtimes.com/how-change-my-vote-google-searches-surge-trump-states-after-election-3750885

Doesn't make you right either.

In the case of Brexit, I voted Remain. Let's just say I wasn't wrong.

Same here though I knew a lot of disaffected Democrats who didn't vote for him but for Kennedy, a write in candidate etc.

Who is the "us"? You and your dog?

I hate to break it to you, but as I said earlier there's no Big Judge keeping score about the "right" and "wrong" way to vote. People vote for what is important to them and walk in their own shoes not yours. And counterfactuals aren't real or provable.

Anyway I've made my point and have no need to continue arguing the point for the next..what is it now..eight years?

Won’t be for long when they see what he gets up to. Seeing his senior appointments should give them a clue.

Quite the opposite.
Labour are doing a fantastic job in tackling the problems in our public services (that the Tories virtually destroyed). They are actually going to do something about the terrible state of social care now too.

Good one. You see...humour and politics can coincide!

I imagine they will be a bit miffed now he has openly said that Fox News guy should be defence secretary…

Not true.

There was an immediate bounce upwards upon the election results but now (check BBC business stats for Dow, Nasdaq etc) shows a clear and sharp downward trajectory over the last few days.

I asked a friend (who has significant ££ invested on US stock) their opinion today, he said it’s likely because of the complete lunatic incompetents that Trump is assembling for his govt; markets see this as a red flag for stability.

I think the facts are very clear regarding Brexit being an act of self harm. The consequences are there for all to see.

Though I get. No need to keep repeating yourself - the majority are always right irrespective of the consequences. People don't make mistakes and never vote against their own interests. Voters are infallible.

That's correct, the US term for presidency is 8 years. Is that what the majority are saying now? Therefore that's obviously factual.

Bizarre claims. I guess the democrats are really desperate. Wonder how many regret it because the gap is big. Lol

True when I wrote it. There will always be profit taking after a sharp rise. Nothing in the markets suggests a negative view.

I was thinking the same. They should invest in the TDS by helping the people who are struggling. I have a friend that she is still not understanding why they could possibly not think like me that I am pro everything but Trump? Even her husband is now seriously worried. She was dumped by her then boyfriend in 2016 as she drove him mad.

Nope.

Note the date inside the red circle I’ve put on. It’s been falling for days.

I don't think the majority are always right. I just don't claim to speak for anyone other than myself. That's my point. And that's one I think would be useful these days if more people bore in mind perhaps. That might help those that abuse the people that voted a different way from them (ignorant, don't listen to "reason" etc) and improve the standards of debate.

Consider:-

One person one vote.

You can only speak for yourself, no one else.

You are probably not always, or perhaps even ever right. Accept it. It's a sign of growing up.

Other people may also think you are wrong too. They just might not be rude enough to contradict you to your face.

Saying an opinion is a "fact" doesn't make it one.

Everything you think is subjective. No one has to agree. They might pretend to though.

The 8 years was a reference to the Brexit vote which is what you had referred to. Sorry you didn't pick up on it @username358

OP, you and others on this thread, are part of the problem. Talking like you do, in such a dismissive way, about people not as educated and privileged, as you is one of the reasons Trump got in. It's one of the reasons that Brexit happened.

And I am very concerned that if people like you don't learn, Reform will make massive strides in the next General Election.

I found Bonnie Greer’s take it on interesting. I don’t agree with her on everything but she said:

• America can be very inward looking. A lot of Americans don’t think about foreign policy or relationships with other nations.
• Many tend not to even travel out of state, never mind outside the country.
• Their view of politics is based what they see on TV, and they have been given a celebrity with catchphrases which they like.
• They don’t live/breathe politics. They pick the person who promises them a better wage packet.

The above is not a direct quote, it’s my take on her words. I have two friends over there.
One is an SEN teacher, is loving, kind and very family centred. She is a Republican and votes Trump. She sees the GOP as a party of patriots.
My other friend is as well educated but is an absolute Democrat. Also family-orientated. Absolutely horrified by the result. Also such a generous person and civic minded.

The Democrats lost because a LOT of Biden voters stayed home for Harris.
Trumps vote did not rise by enough to win
if the Democrat vote had held up
https://x.com/billmaher/status/1857635615031934984

Nah, I think this “don’t call people stupid, they won’t agree with you next time” stuff is a load of old bollocks.

They’re really not going to agree with you regardless of anyone else’s opinion of them. With the Brexit vote, clearly it was a mistake ( there turned out to be ZERO trade deals, immigration massively up and it’s clear that no, we don’t hold all the cards)
and Brexit has undeniably turned out to be a massive mistake in terms of cost to benefit. The state of the country is evidence of that.

Also plenty clear enough is that the least educated, most uninformed, clueless as to the true effect of tariffs or removal of healthcare would have, those swallowing conspiracy bs… they all turned out in droves to vote for Trump. I’ll continue to call them thick myself, because that’s in many cases what they are.

No, not everything is subjective. Lies aren't subjective, they're lies. Are you post truth as well?

Stop explaining simple facts to me, I'm aware that one person has a vote and how the electoral process works.

I don't care if someone thinks I'm wrong, I'm not that thin skinned and tend to back up what I say with evidence. I can prove that we're worse off after Brexit than we were before. That's not subjective.

I'm not denying people the right to vote or to have an opinion. I just don't believe the majority are always right and that's not subjective.

Of course I agree with all you have said. You said it so firmly I am totally convinced.

At last.

If Trump supporters are dumb,
how dumb are the Biden supporters who stayed home and let him get elected over Harris ?

Harris obviously ran an incredibly weak campaign, limp and without substance, offering nothing new.
Sprinkle in some misogyny, I understand there’s a little bit of that in the US
Add a bit of racism in there too…

vs

The saviour of all things American!! The chosen one to make America great again, promising the world on a stick, everyone shall bow to his god like (is he infact Jesus?!?) type aura. You voters aren’t actually educated enough to understand the effects of tariffs or healthcare removal on your lives because you haven’t thought about that have you

Plus sprinkle in several huge handfuls of actually quite extreme racism.

It’s more alluring to believe the hype; the dream. Let’s see how that works out.