Kemi Badenoch elected as Tory leader

[Locutus2000]

This will be entertaining.

You have completely misunderstood what I wrote.
I was responding to the previous poster who suggested to someone that a party who elected a black woman couldn’t possibly be described as extreme right.
I was pointing out that this is exactly what many extreme right parties with racist histories, e.g the Far Right in France do in fact try to say - that they can’t be racist because, look, they have black members. That is the trickery I referred to, nothing at all to do with Kemi Badenoch’s election! Jeez.

You see this is another statement you’ve made that could equally apply to Badenock. They’re incredibly similar in many ways.

Or maybe she won because she’s unashamedly conservative and won members over?

Whats extraordinary is how much this has brought out the racists on the left and the right. There are people on twitter that they’ll never vote for a nigerian, here it’s a “she’s a token” and dawn butler has called her a white supremicist in blackface. Jesus fucking christ the racism spillith over. People aren’t even trying to hide it.

I wish I could agree with you. But I honestly doubt Rayner can come with anything even remotely clever.

She thinks calling voters scum is a good retort.

@Understairscupboard

"They always said the choices they would have to make would be difficult.
People aren't going to like that until they see some benefits.
If the benefits don't come/aren't apparent then I agree with you - things will look shaky."

The budget pushed tax rises and debt increases as far as they could without suffering a full Liz Truss reaction.

This means that there is very little scope for further tax rises or debt increases over the next four years. The tax increases on business will also stifle economic growth.

So combine that with unrealistic high expectations of improving the economy and lives of ordinary people then I think you are going to get a lot of angry voters at the next election and a lurch to the left (Labour weren't left wing enough) and to the right (Labour was too left wing).

The tories are not far right, have you seen the immigration numbers!? We used to actually be able to identify the far right but now everything is far right.

They want immigration in order to keep wages low. That's why immigration went up under the Tories.

yes but did you though? Did you read the unedited full version of what she actually said? Weirdly you responded to the question without actually answering the question. Why is that?

Unless they get signed off sick or won’t actually earn enough and so will end up with UC. Being young may not be a good thing, they then have children that require maternity care, maternity pay, social care, child benefit, a free nursery place and a free education. Free dental care - I could go on and on.

Not to mention the acute housing crisis.

@EverythingAllatOnceAllTheTime What a dreadful way to speak about a hard working woman who, whatever you think of her politics, has devoted her whole working life to public service.

Erm I’m not white and we regularly have nicknames in my family. I have never referred to my siblings by their actual names. It’s usually a shortened version or a play on their name, I don’t call my DD by her full name. It’s completely normal.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sSTGH2YHs34

@User37482

"Whats extraordinary is how much this has brought out the racists on the left and the right. There are people on twitter that they’ll never vote for a nigerian, here it’s a “she’s a token” and dawn butler has called her a white supremicist in blackface. Jesus fucking christ the racism spillith over. People aren’t even trying to hide it."

The reaction is genuinely shocking, I was genuinely pleased that she was chosen as I think she was the best candidate based on her character and actions and where her skin colour was completely irrelevant.

Sadly on this thread and particularly from the left the racism is blatant.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-65558694

Yes of course I did. It seemed very clear to me.

The left wing racism on here has been utterly despicable. I am amazed the thread has stayed up.

We need more children. The UK birth rate is through the floor. Immigrants having children - the taxpayers of the future - is a positive, not a negative.

That Butler comment was truly nasty.

No it's not. It would not be like Britain then. It would be full of other cultures and nationalities

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I'm glad it has but yeh today has brought some incredible views out into the open

I am not even going to reply to you until you can bloody stop with your nasty digs, deliberately misspelling Kemi’s surname. I see exactly what you do, it’s old, done too many times. Its racist and you need to stop.

Now then, you know this is normal practice across all parties AND entirely unrelated to your dreadful comment.

Ok, I’m obviously not making myself clear here as people are completely misunderstanding what I am saying.

I’ll have one more go, then I’ll give up

In a previous conversation with another poster, someone said you couldn’t describe a party which has elected a black woman as extreme right.

I responded by observing that the extreme right often say ‘ we can’t be racist, we have black members’ When in fact, the extreme right has a history of racist views.

Staggeringly, for mentioning this, I’ve been told I sound racist! Which I have to say, as a lifelong, very active anti racism campaigner, really hurts. But maybe I wasn’t clear?! Oh well.