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Starmer son finds a quiet place to study for GCSEs

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justasking111 · 25/09/2024 14:21

Can't berate Starmer for this but think some parents will be aghast.

"PM suggests £20,000 accommodation donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision' | Evening Standard" https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

PM suggests £20,000 donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision'

Keir Starmer defends his decision to take gifts from Labour peer Lord Alli

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

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80smonster · 25/09/2024 17:24

BIossomtoes · 25/09/2024 17:14

There is no £20,000.

Pardon? So accepting 20k’s worth of free hotels or similar isn’t bent as fuck?

80smonster · 25/09/2024 17:25

LipstickOnHisGuitar · 25/09/2024 17:18

There is no £20,000.

🙄

If his child needed a peaceful environment, then he could have afforded to pay for that. Instead he took another freebie.

Surely it’s his moral obligation to cover his families costs?

C8H10N4O2 · 25/09/2024 17:26

BIossomtoes · 25/09/2024 17:14

There is no £20,000.

Oh come on - the Starmers are wealthy, plenty wealthy enough to pay for some quiet and private accommodation for their children. Accepting 20k worth of accommodation from a donor who is then given a pass to No 10 is exactly the kind of gifts for favours nonsense for which he criticised Johnson and others.

I entirely agreed with him on the greed and pork barrel culture of the Johnson crew but if you are going to make a big issue of corruption and croneyism you need to be double careful to keep clear of it yourself, not accept expensive favours and then try to justify for for special circumstances in the same way.

Its also stupid. Surprisingly so.

I'd also consider that when my DC were at school they had plenty of peers who had no private and quiet study space of any kind at all (at least one was in a refuge, multiple in shocking temporary accommodation). They were not gifted quiet accommodation by wealthy donors but then they had nothing to offer in return for the favour.

80smonster · 25/09/2024 17:27

Maybe Starmer could arrange for 20k donations to be made to any child who suffers disruption to their education? He wants educational inequity to end? Correct? Or does that not include his children?

ViciousCurrentBun · 25/09/2024 17:29

Labour are supposed to be for the people the Conservatives don’t even pretend to be do they and that why it seems so bad, the hypocrisy.

Abra1t · 25/09/2024 17:35

Would have been less (notional) money to send him to Eton for a term. Squeezed him through before the VAT increase. Or Harrow--closer to them. Or Highgate.

Thing is, that educated people with money are ALWAYS going to find a way to benefit their children. Of course they are. If not school fees, then private tutors, educational trips, music lessons, holidays in quiet places before important exams (I know lots of Labour voters who'll rent an expensive Cornish cottage to provide quiet revision space.) They'll have friends who can offer work experience or cheap flats to rent when the offspring need it for the first, low-paid, London job.

It's human nature. You can't stop people doing it. Even having decent conversations with them at the table is a privilege that not all children have.

Unless the state takes over all child-raising from birth onwards, it will always happen, and Bollinger Socialist Starmer is no exception. They're from North London, after all. 😀

80smonster · 25/09/2024 17:42

BIossomtoes · 25/09/2024 16:52

Nobody handed over £20k, it’s the notional value of a borrowed property.

Is it- or is it not allowing educational advantage to be bought? You could say it’s corrupt, given Starmer thoughts on inequity in education. What about this doesn’t wreak of corruption to you @BIossomtoes ?

WinterMorn · 25/09/2024 17:46

80smonster · 25/09/2024 17:42

Is it- or is it not allowing educational advantage to be bought? You could say it’s corrupt, given Starmer thoughts on inequity in education. What about this doesn’t wreak of corruption to you @BIossomtoes ?

And just when you think it can’t get any worse for the PM……

Starmer son finds a quiet place to study for GCSEs
TizerorFizz · 25/09/2024 17:47

It’s just a different coloured trough. This one is red.

CustardCreams2 · 25/09/2024 17:49

Every person on earth has a personal life and day to day challenges. To speculate (and this is massive speculation on Starmers part) that having a few journalists taking photos outside your house is disturbing enough to affect his sons GCSEs - is being highly, highly indulgent.

I can understand free accommodation being given to a son to escape something like domestic abuse or physical violence (which by the way is what some children/women are actually dealing with and receive no help from the government). But I can’t understand accommodation to the tune of £20,0000 in a scenario such as this.

If a couple of journalists outside your house taking photos tanks your son’s GCSE grades, you haven’t got a journalist problem, you’ve got a thick son problem. To claim otherwise doesn’t give credit to all the children out there who have performed impressively well in GCSEs and A level exams despite REAL (!) problems like financial hardship, DV etc.

But of course, as with the clothes freebies, his son is more special than our sons and daughters. One set of ethics for him, another for the general public.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 25/09/2024 17:51

Did he get any sausages when he was there?

TwigTheWonderKid · 25/09/2024 17:51

WinterMorn · 25/09/2024 16:51

Well, not many would be willing to hand over £20k for the children of high profile criminals, for example, to buy some privacy. There’s no way of dressing it up, this is Starmer taking full advantage of his position.

You've totally misunderstood (either accidentally or deliberately). No money was handed over, they stayed in a friend's house to give the child some peace and quiet. The house is in London and the market rate is high ( just for context I live in a semi in a suburb of London and the house next door is to let for £7500 a month) He did the correct thing in declaring it. What's the problem?

80smonster · 25/09/2024 17:53

Houseplanter · 25/09/2024 16:55

I am aghast tbh.

All that bollocks about understanding the working class. The constant talk of cronyism.

There should be a way of us sacking him because he deceived his way in to the job.

What a lying, weak, deceiving scum bag.

Duplicitous some would say.

spuddy4 · 25/09/2024 17:53

Just goes to show how out of touch he is with most people. Don't tell me a family member couldn't give him a spare room to revise in, only the best for Starmer junior it would seem.

WinterMorn · 25/09/2024 17:53

TwigTheWonderKid · 25/09/2024 17:51

You've totally misunderstood (either accidentally or deliberately). No money was handed over, they stayed in a friend's house to give the child some peace and quiet. The house is in London and the market rate is high ( just for context I live in a semi in a suburb of London and the house next door is to let for £7500 a month) He did the correct thing in declaring it. What's the problem?

Edited

I haven’t misunderstood at all. There doesn’t need to be any bundle of currency to indicate the worth of something.

JustSpeechless · 25/09/2024 17:56

BIossomtoes · 25/09/2024 16:43

Spot on. Anyone who begrudges a kid a quiet room for revision when his dad’s constantly besieged by the media should really take a look at themselves.

I think they call that a library.

kirbykirby · 25/09/2024 17:58

Moonshiners · 25/09/2024 16:45

I honestly couldn't give a shit about this. My son went and stayed at my parents house to get some peace and quiet. If you'd rented a room there it would have cost a about 150 quid a night on airbnb. Surely this is long the same lines?
Didnt Boris Johnson live in chequers for about six months after he was sacked? At the cost of the tax payer, thats more annoying.

Yep. And people rightly moaned about it non-stop. This kind of corruption doesn't become acceptable just because it's being done by a Labour politician, actually it's probably worse as these hypocrites claim to be the moral arbiters of society that plebs should look up to.

1nutcracker · 25/09/2024 18:00

Not sure if the GCSE exam dates are accurate?

Starmer son finds a quiet place to study for GCSEs
TwigTheWonderKid · 25/09/2024 18:00

WinterMorn · 25/09/2024 17:53

I haven’t misunderstood at all. There doesn’t need to be any bundle of currency to indicate the worth of something.

What does that mean?!

Viewfrommyhouse · 25/09/2024 18:04

The flat was 'borrowed' from 29th May to 13th July this year. GSCE exams started on 9th May, and the last exam was sat on 19th June. Honestly, anyone swallowing this whole 'it was for my son' shite is either genuinely thick, or about to get a massive headache due to the cognitive dissonance they're experiencing. The fucking hypocrisy is unreal.

Viewfrommyhouse · 25/09/2024 18:05

1nutcracker · 25/09/2024 18:00

Not sure if the GCSE exam dates are accurate?

Exactly.

Yes, the dates are accurate.

EasternStandard · 25/09/2024 18:06

Viewfrommyhouse · 25/09/2024 18:04

The flat was 'borrowed' from 29th May to 13th July this year. GSCE exams started on 9th May, and the last exam was sat on 19th June. Honestly, anyone swallowing this whole 'it was for my son' shite is either genuinely thick, or about to get a massive headache due to the cognitive dissonance they're experiencing. The fucking hypocrisy is unreal.

Really?

How does that work then. What a joker

80smonster · 25/09/2024 18:07

TwigTheWonderKid · 25/09/2024 18:00

What does that mean?!

That it’s still bent, even if money didn’t exchange hands. Simple enough for you?

80smonster · 25/09/2024 18:08

1nutcracker · 25/09/2024 18:00

Not sure if the GCSE exam dates are accurate?

Oh dear. So the plot thickens, it was a family jolly, paid for by a Labour donor. To think we were all so concerned about the little lambs revision timetable.

Josephinesnapoleon · 25/09/2024 18:10

Why can’t you berate him . The man’s a multi millionaire. He didn’t need to take hand outs. He was leader of the opposition, attacked Boris for doing similar, him and raynor have been coining it in.

its disgusting. When they then take the fuel allowance off of pensioners.