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Starmer son finds a quiet place to study for GCSEs

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justasking111 · 25/09/2024 14:21

Can't berate Starmer for this but think some parents will be aghast.

"PM suggests £20,000 accommodation donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision' | Evening Standard" https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

PM suggests £20,000 donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision'

Keir Starmer defends his decision to take gifts from Labour peer Lord Alli

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

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justasking111 · 28/09/2024 15:32

TizerorFizz · 28/09/2024 15:30

The declarations of gifts is in the public domain. They don’t need to leak that.

I might have been misleading earlier. It’s a further £16,000 on clothes that was originally assigned as his office expenses. So over £30,000 on clothes!!! He’s not Mme Macron wearing Chanel is he?!!

What kind of man dresses another man?

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Chersfrozenface · 28/09/2024 15:43

Arafon · 28/09/2024 07:59

I'm wondering what cost so much, he just seems to wear dull suits. Maybe the clothes are all hanging in his wardrobe unworn, with labels on, 'tis very odd.

A Savile Row suit can cost anything from £3,500 upwards. Richard James shirts start just shy of £200 apiece.

2k2j · 28/09/2024 15:47

Chersfrozenface · 28/09/2024 15:43

A Savile Row suit can cost anything from £3,500 upwards. Richard James shirts start just shy of £200 apiece.

If a rich person wants to buy these clothes for themselves or their family or friends, then fine, good luck to them, enjoy the items.

But a politician accepting anything like this as a gift/bribe is a disgrace.

TizerorFizz · 28/09/2024 15:49

So 7 or 8 suits? Plus a shirt for every day of the month? Shoes of course. We forgot shoes and socks and ties. Frankly it’s ludicrous. This is Labour!! The ones who are anti gifts! He is on the take and more than any other MP by far. It’s appalling.

EasternStandard · 28/09/2024 15:52

TizerorFizz · 28/09/2024 15:49

So 7 or 8 suits? Plus a shirt for every day of the month? Shoes of course. We forgot shoes and socks and ties. Frankly it’s ludicrous. This is Labour!! The ones who are anti gifts! He is on the take and more than any other MP by far. It’s appalling.

And the glasses

£2,500 worth

Rummly · 28/09/2024 15:52

JRSKSSBH · 28/09/2024 13:15

Apparently there is worse to come. Rumours in Westminster of a super injunction to hide an inappropriate relationship and ultimately Keir resigning. One has to wonder if the foot dragging over the definition of a women, the proposed definition of Islamophobia are examples of someone’s undue influence. The amounts given must surely be buying him a lot of control and soft power. Lord Alli has links to President Assad, by the way.

I really don’t think lurid rumours should be repeated.

If someone has facts they should say them and explain their evidence. Otherwise this is the sort of thing that debases life and, for what it’s worth, politics.

I do not like Labour. I do not like Starmer. But I think critics should try to do better than Labour fans did with their endless circulation of bullshit and falsehoods about the Tories.

TizerorFizz · 28/09/2024 16:48

Lord Alli bankrolls Labour. He has good connections and friends. Since 1998 he’s made 12 speeches in the HoL, so largely absent. He’s there because Blair thanked him for monetary contributions. In my view, this has to stop. His expertise, such as if is, is of no benefit to the Lords or Parliament.

In view of this I’m still of the opinion the state should give some £ to all parties via money to all candidates. We surely don’t want a USA style funding system? This giving to individuals by wealthy donors has to stop but MPs should earn more. All office expenses should be paid up to a limit. We need clarity and to stop one person having so much power. Although he’s a Labour moderate so that might explain why the info keeps coming!

MichaelandKirk · 28/09/2024 17:11

It’s always the quiet ones! You do wonder what he was wearing before all of this. Tbh - I think it will blow over because they are so early in their 5 year term BUT it’s a disgraceful way to behave after being on his high horse about this sort of stuff when he was in opposition.

I suspect he will just keep stating now he is in power he will not take anymore freebies and hope it slips down the media coverage.

Worse case is that we find all parties have been at this for years. My big issue with him is he was so pompous and self righteous about it all taking the moral high ground and he is just a grifter.

BIossomtoes · 28/09/2024 17:13

Worse case is that we find all parties have been at this for years.

Undoubtedly. Ed Davey’s slipped under the radar unnoticed.

JRSKSSBH · 28/09/2024 17:34

justasking111 · 28/09/2024 15:32

What kind of man dresses another man?

well, therein may lie the nub of this whole situation.

JRSKSSBH · 28/09/2024 17:37

Rummly · 28/09/2024 15:52

I really don’t think lurid rumours should be repeated.

If someone has facts they should say them and explain their evidence. Otherwise this is the sort of thing that debases life and, for what it’s worth, politics.

I do not like Labour. I do not like Starmer. But I think critics should try to do better than Labour fans did with their endless circulation of bullshit and falsehoods about the Tories.

You do understand what a super injunction is? Facts can’t be spoken about hence rumours. I think if someone in power behaves like this then expect the worst. He is also a sanctimonious prig hence people being doubly enraged.

Rummly · 28/09/2024 17:42

JRSKSSBH · 28/09/2024 17:37

You do understand what a super injunction is? Facts can’t be spoken about hence rumours. I think if someone in power behaves like this then expect the worst. He is also a sanctimonious prig hence people being doubly enraged.

Yes, I do know what a super injunction is. They’re now more or less extinct. But I don’t believe that the theoretical possibility of a super injunction - against anyone - is any basis for wild rumour.

Rummly · 28/09/2024 17:42

But I certainly agree with you about Starmer’s revolting priggishness and hypocrisy.

EasternStandard · 28/09/2024 17:50

A Labour MP has quit over the “freebies” scandal that has engulfed Keir Starmer and his government.

Rosie Duffield, MP for Canterbury, said she was standing down because of Sir Keir’s “cruel and unnecessary” policies and said she was writing to the Prime Minister today informing him of her decision to resign.

Ms Duffield condemned Sir Keir in a letter for accepting gifts worth more than £100,000 for clothing, glasses and accommodation paid by Lord Alli, the millionaire Labour peer.

In the letter shared with the Sunday Times, she wrote: “The sleaze, nepotism and apparent avarice are off the scale.

“I am so ashamed of what you and your inner circle have done to tarnish and humiliate our once proud party.”

oof

Rummly · 28/09/2024 17:51

EasternStandard · 28/09/2024 17:50

A Labour MP has quit over the “freebies” scandal that has engulfed Keir Starmer and his government.

Rosie Duffield, MP for Canterbury, said she was standing down because of Sir Keir’s “cruel and unnecessary” policies and said she was writing to the Prime Minister today informing him of her decision to resign.

Ms Duffield condemned Sir Keir in a letter for accepting gifts worth more than £100,000 for clothing, glasses and accommodation paid by Lord Alli, the millionaire Labour peer.

In the letter shared with the Sunday Times, she wrote: “The sleaze, nepotism and apparent avarice are off the scale.

“I am so ashamed of what you and your inner circle have done to tarnish and humiliate our once proud party.”

oof

Oh wow.

EasternStandard · 28/09/2024 17:53

“She has become the fastest MP to jump ship after a general election in modern political history.“

As for the rumours looks it’s picking up anyway across below the line comments in the media.

No comment on that but I don’t think Starmer helps himself with his defensive and arrogant responses to questions

NeverDropYourMooncup · 28/09/2024 17:56

JRSKSSBH · 28/09/2024 17:37

You do understand what a super injunction is? Facts can’t be spoken about hence rumours. I think if someone in power behaves like this then expect the worst. He is also a sanctimonious prig hence people being doubly enraged.

What with you being an expert and all, could you answer this poser for me?

Doesn't claiming a superinjunction exists, never mind muttering about relationships and the like, also breach the terms of a superinjunction if it does exist and you're not just chatting shit to try to sound important?

Portalsalways · 28/09/2024 18:03

In all honesty, whatever the rumour is (and I don’t think it’s what most people in X are claiming) if they are true, or he is hiding something, he would be just better admitting it.

If you are PM your private life often IS in the public interest. Especially, when you use your private life to promote yourself.

But I don’t think anything good comes from speculating about what the rumour is.

TizerorFizz · 28/09/2024 18:43

I think a super injection prevents comment on a court case. Or even the existence of one. So what court case? They could try an injunction but it would probably fail as this info is in the public interest.

It’s all very well saying Conservative MPs get gifts but none, at the moment, can hold a candle to Starmer! If is the hypocrisy that’s so astounding. Utterly stupid of them.

justasking111 · 28/09/2024 19:39

Plenty of footballers used super injunctions so that their wives didn't find out that they were playing away. It was to gag the media.

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TizerorFizz · 28/09/2024 21:15

Plenty? Ryan Giggs. Who else? It’s a rare injunction. Also they won’t cover the foreign based press or social media so these days injunctions are more likely, no super!

justasking111 · 28/09/2024 22:02

I recall the Australian media breaking a super injunction.

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JRSKSSBH · 29/09/2024 00:48

NeverDropYourMooncup · 28/09/2024 17:56

What with you being an expert and all, could you answer this poser for me?

Doesn't claiming a superinjunction exists, never mind muttering about relationships and the like, also breach the terms of a superinjunction if it does exist and you're not just chatting shit to try to sound important?

Well, my inner teenager would reply to you “whatever”. I am not trying to sound important (weird frankly that you might think that), I am merely highlighting rumours circulating in Westminster. If you wish to ignore them, then you ought to jog on.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 29/09/2024 08:08

How odd, a pile of Tories piles on. All the usual names!

Starner was wrong to accept the free goods, although it was a minuscule drop in the ocean compared to what the Tories took.

I'm more interested to know in detail what his policies are. It's become common for politicians of all stripes to be coy about those. Democracy in action.

EasternStandard · 29/09/2024 08:14

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 29/09/2024 08:08

How odd, a pile of Tories piles on. All the usual names!

Starner was wrong to accept the free goods, although it was a minuscule drop in the ocean compared to what the Tories took.

I'm more interested to know in detail what his policies are. It's become common for politicians of all stripes to be coy about those. Democracy in action.

Piling on is usually the Labour supporters go to, you just don’t notice it as you presumably agree or join

I’ve thought him a con for ages only now is the public catching up, look at the backlash

Good