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Starmer son finds a quiet place to study for GCSEs

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justasking111 · 25/09/2024 14:21

Can't berate Starmer for this but think some parents will be aghast.

"PM suggests £20,000 accommodation donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision' | Evening Standard" https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

PM suggests £20,000 donation was for 'son to find somewhere for GCSE revision'

Keir Starmer defends his decision to take gifts from Labour peer Lord Alli

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-donation-son-gcse-housing-acoommodation-prime-minister-b1183972.html

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justasking111 · 27/09/2024 14:23

They didn't have the balls, were too busy devouring each other.

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80smonster · 27/09/2024 14:38

justasking111 · 27/09/2024 14:13

Tony Blair worth between 45 and 65 million, Cherie Blair, who knows. Euan Blair £374 million.
Gordon brown 15 million.

These are smart people.

Or fake left monsters - depending on how you see things.

80smonster · 27/09/2024 14:44

deltabluesandpinks · 27/09/2024 14:03

@80smonster Starmer is a "dangerous monster"?! I think the word hyperbole was invented for this kind of comment.

If the media and public had been up in arms for even a tiny portion of all the shite the Tories did when they were in power, this country would be in a much much better state than it is now.

"Let the bodies pile high". Now that is the sort of thing you'd expect a "monster" to say.

Who do you want in charge?

What rock have you been hiding under? The media, opposition and most of the country were absolutely disgusted by the Tories. Mumsnet was awash with stories about these matters, never did I see the kind of minimising I am witnessing here, from you and others. Many of the people on this thread are absolutely dismayed that we are in for a re-run of that corruption. I (wrongly) assumed that many left voters had been hopeful that change was afoot. All I’m seeing is the same show dressed up in red, liberal it is not.

EasternStandard · 27/09/2024 14:45

justasking111 · 27/09/2024 14:20

David Milliband who I had a soft spot for earns a million a year with a charity.

Nick Clegg was worth £20 million, he works for FB.

These are clever men. Today we don't have politicians who are statesmen.

Not sure about this

It's more about the money they can earn after power

And all the stories such as not caring about being wealthy and toolmaker's sons are the biggest con going

80smonster · 27/09/2024 14:49

Does Starmer remind anyone else of that dish-faced wanker Cameron? Brexit means Brexit, pay the VAT, all tribal wails from those with little grasp of economics or politics, and no fundamental understanding of how these things will play out. Dog whistles policies invented for the little people…

MoneyNeverSleeps · 27/09/2024 14:52

80smonster · 27/09/2024 14:49

Does Starmer remind anyone else of that dish-faced wanker Cameron? Brexit means Brexit, pay the VAT, all tribal wails from those with little grasp of economics or politics, and no fundamental understanding of how these things will play out. Dog whistles policies invented for the little people…

One of the more amusing descriptions I heard of
Starmer was - he’s the kind of bloke who runs at a pigeon, which doesn’t fly off….

80smonster · 27/09/2024 15:01

MoneyNeverSleeps · 27/09/2024 14:52

One of the more amusing descriptions I heard of
Starmer was - he’s the kind of bloke who runs at a pigeon, which doesn’t fly off….

You’ve made my day. Thank you. 🐦

nearlylovemyusername · 27/09/2024 15:04

80smonster · 27/09/2024 14:49

Does Starmer remind anyone else of that dish-faced wanker Cameron? Brexit means Brexit, pay the VAT, all tribal wails from those with little grasp of economics or politics, and no fundamental understanding of how these things will play out. Dog whistles policies invented for the little people…

100%

80smonster · 27/09/2024 15:05

justasking111 · 27/09/2024 13:52

Starmer is thinking globally

So whose job is it to think about the UK? If privatisation is the name of the game, feels like we are running out of things to point at? Transport, done. Schools, done. NHS, being organised as we speak?

nearlylovemyusername · 27/09/2024 15:05

Just musing about some exams / IQ tests for aspiring politicians...

and for electorate for that matter

80smonster · 27/09/2024 15:06

nearlylovemyusername · 27/09/2024 15:04

100%

At least Starmer will be able to write a book about it all. Can’t wait to throw that into my wood burning stove…

MoneyNeverSleeps · 27/09/2024 15:10

nearlylovemyusername · 27/09/2024 15:05

Just musing about some exams / IQ tests for aspiring politicians...

and for electorate for that matter

I’ve considered similarly.

Same with procreation - although I recognise one might run into some resistance….

EasternStandard · 27/09/2024 15:12

nearlylovemyusername · 27/09/2024 15:05

Just musing about some exams / IQ tests for aspiring politicians...

and for electorate for that matter

More education on economics, behavioural studies and the media would be good. For both

MoneyNeverSleeps · 27/09/2024 15:13

EasternStandard · 27/09/2024 15:12

More education on economics, behavioural studies and the media would be good. For both

Integrity, proper DD on ‘friends’…

nearlylovemyusername · 27/09/2024 15:34

EasternStandard · 27/09/2024 15:12

More education on economics, behavioural studies and the media would be good. For both

You're touching raw nerve here...

Those aspiring middle classes can't go to the schools which do it best anymore

upinaballoon · 27/09/2024 17:27

MoneyNeverSleeps · 27/09/2024 10:28

Are any of you able to address the policies of the current Labour government rather than continually looking to deflect?

Edited

I'm not looking to deflect particularly, but I was picking up on what one person had said, putting a line of Tories in the bin, as if there aren't any nuances and as if everyone is wholly right or wrong.
This thread is not about the policies of the current government. It's about Keir Starmer having another place for his son to have privacy to revise.

If you want me to address a policy or two, I might have time.
Policies:
1.WFP I didn't read the Labour manifesto but as I understand it, the removal of the Winter Fuel Payment from many pensioners wasn't mentioned in it. However, it was done early on. I don't know whether Rachel Reeves knew very well that she was going to do it and kept quiet, or whether she discussed it with Keir Starmer before the election and they both decided they'd do it but not mention it. If it had been in the manifesto it might have have cost them the election. I don't know what the people in her department say to one another at meetings, so I don't know whether she had to change the WFP as an urgent move, or not. Whether she intended to do it or not, they all made sure and still make sure, that they keep trotting out the cliche that she had to do something because they found a hole et cetera, and it's time they stopped going on about it, because even if it's true it's boring and it's had it's day.

2.Cancel the Rwanda plan. Yes, I've no grumbles about cancelling that. I notice that the slogan is now 'Smash the gangs'. We can all go around saying 'Smash the gangs' twenty-seven thousand times a week, but that won't necessarily smash the gangs. By Christmas 2024 or by July 2025 how many gangs will have been smashed? Well, somewhere in a remote corner of Radio 4 there might be a bod who will give the best analysis of that next July.

Sorry. I don't have more time to address the policies, albeit on the wrong thread, but I would just like to say that if my body had to keep going to conferences and then getting in aeroplanes and having dinner with Trumple Dumple when I should have been asleep for several hours, my bowels wouldn't know if they were coming or going, so if the Leader or the Lammy are looking ever so serious today I'll know why.
Upinaballoon, have you always been flippant? No, I have moments of seriosity.

Clavinova · 27/09/2024 18:41

iwishihadknownmore
Sunak used £8m of Tax payers money to fund a helicopter for himself

The helicopter contract was first set up in 2006 - under Labour. It was used for 'high priority military personnel, ministers and government officials within the UK and near Europe'...

https://bidstats.uk/tenders/2024/W07/816709824

Although the contract has gone though various tenders and renewals over the 17 years it has been run, Sloane Helicopters has been the chosen operator throughout.

The MoD is also not providing any details on how they will fulfil this role going forward...

https://www.helihub.com/2023/08/18/british-government-stops-vip-helicopter-contract/

MoneyNeverSleeps · 27/09/2024 19:07

upinaballoon · 27/09/2024 17:27

I'm not looking to deflect particularly, but I was picking up on what one person had said, putting a line of Tories in the bin, as if there aren't any nuances and as if everyone is wholly right or wrong.
This thread is not about the policies of the current government. It's about Keir Starmer having another place for his son to have privacy to revise.

If you want me to address a policy or two, I might have time.
Policies:
1.WFP I didn't read the Labour manifesto but as I understand it, the removal of the Winter Fuel Payment from many pensioners wasn't mentioned in it. However, it was done early on. I don't know whether Rachel Reeves knew very well that she was going to do it and kept quiet, or whether she discussed it with Keir Starmer before the election and they both decided they'd do it but not mention it. If it had been in the manifesto it might have have cost them the election. I don't know what the people in her department say to one another at meetings, so I don't know whether she had to change the WFP as an urgent move, or not. Whether she intended to do it or not, they all made sure and still make sure, that they keep trotting out the cliche that she had to do something because they found a hole et cetera, and it's time they stopped going on about it, because even if it's true it's boring and it's had it's day.

2.Cancel the Rwanda plan. Yes, I've no grumbles about cancelling that. I notice that the slogan is now 'Smash the gangs'. We can all go around saying 'Smash the gangs' twenty-seven thousand times a week, but that won't necessarily smash the gangs. By Christmas 2024 or by July 2025 how many gangs will have been smashed? Well, somewhere in a remote corner of Radio 4 there might be a bod who will give the best analysis of that next July.

Sorry. I don't have more time to address the policies, albeit on the wrong thread, but I would just like to say that if my body had to keep going to conferences and then getting in aeroplanes and having dinner with Trumple Dumple when I should have been asleep for several hours, my bowels wouldn't know if they were coming or going, so if the Leader or the Lammy are looking ever so serious today I'll know why.
Upinaballoon, have you always been flippant? No, I have moments of seriosity.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I now owe you a reply and will do so.

Have a great evening.

TizerorFizz · 27/09/2024 19:58

I don’t have an issue with the PM having a car and driver and taking a helicopter. They do deserve to be able to do the job properly and it’s a hell of a job! What is not right is any politician taking £100,000 plus of extra free perks. They were not part of the job. All politicians know the risks. They can seek to reduce them without having a central London flat!

Thatmakesperfectsense · 27/09/2024 21:15

I wondered what other people think of editor Isabel Oakeshott's comment on Talk, she discusses other possible reasons why Kier was not living at his own house during lockdown?

https://x.com/TalkTV/status/1839568189186793838

MichaelandKirk · 27/09/2024 21:45

He is a massive hypocrite and seems pissed off that he is being asked to explain. The worrying thing is that he doesn’t seem to get it.

MN is left wing generally and there seems to be excuse after excuse for his sanctimonious behaviour. He comes across as a prig. He caved into the unions and I believe it was always planned to get rid of WFA. They didn’t just think of it over the last few weeks

MichaelandKirk · 27/09/2024 21:53

The non dom issue was obvious. They will just move from the UK. With them goes their spending in the UK too.

Idiots

TizerorFizz · 27/09/2024 21:57

There’s going to be strike after strike in the NHS. Plenty more want their slice of the cakes. Nurses will be striking again soon. Uni lecturers got half what teachers got. None of this and the bloated public sector is sustainable, and that’s before the pensions no one else gets. Of course they planned cutting WFP. The whole barrel load of excuses is dishonest. They knew the Cons were going to find it difficult and would have to rein in spending. Half the alleged black hole is NHS wages increases. Just wait until the budget to find out all the rest of it.

Novaavon · 27/09/2024 22:51

I just feel so disappointed with it all. I just wanted decency, honesty and transparency. And it's not happening.

My new MP is Sue Gray's son. He received donations from Lord Alli during his campaign and since being elected. At no point during the campaign, or in his literature, did he say who his mother was. I don't care who his mother is. But I feel duped. I just want to feel it's all fair and it's so far from it.

justasking111 · 28/09/2024 00:33

Novaavon · 27/09/2024 22:51

I just feel so disappointed with it all. I just wanted decency, honesty and transparency. And it's not happening.

My new MP is Sue Gray's son. He received donations from Lord Alli during his campaign and since being elected. At no point during the campaign, or in his literature, did he say who his mother was. I don't care who his mother is. But I feel duped. I just want to feel it's all fair and it's so far from it.

Ugh. The sleaze is relentless.

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