Money is pouring in for Kamala Harris as U.S. presidential candidate

[MsAmerica]

And I confess myself very surprised.

Kamala Harris' fundraising reaches a record-breaking $100 million since Biden's exit
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/23/fundraising-for-kamala-harris-tops-100-million-shattering-records/74509043007/

Historic flood of cash pours into Harris campaign and allied groups
www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/historic-flood-of-cash-pours-into-harris-campaign-and-allied-groups/ar-BB1qvtCj?ocid=BingNewsSerp

And you’re wrong and rude.

I had no idea Vance's wife was Indian heritage. But even so, this has nothing to do with her, everything to do with Vance and the backers and money he will bring.

Yes but instead of saying he has sold out etc the word dowry was used. I have never ever heard that that term used before for someone in politics compromising their ethics for money. The fact is, that sort of thing is pretty common in politics. And yet, the word dowry was used for Vance

If it's meant to be a dog-whistle reminder that his wife has Indian heritage then I'm not sure it's an effective one if the intended implication is "and therefore you should vote for Kamala Harris".

Vice presidential candidates coming with an electoral dowry is a long standing concept: it's why Harris won't pick Newsom.

Precisely.

Dowry actually is a pretty apt concept to describe the agreement to enter a partnership and to bring assets or money. And I have actually heard it used on a political context previously.

Dowry has a strong history in Europe and around the World, it’s certainly not something restricted to people from Indian communities, though is still frequently practiced in India. It’s deeply misogynistic but that’s quite fitting for how Trump and Vance view things.

I did try Googling to find any racist connotations and came up blank other than the fact it’s an action still carried out in many countries outside of Europe and North America.

I imagine those here who are supporting her and slating Trump are doing so because of special interests, ie Trump's position in relation to one or two specific issues. Not about wider issues or knowledge of a wide range of policies. If so what are the specific issues which you think Trump has got wrong?

I mean, where to start. Is the separating children from their parents and putting them in cages a good start, Baloney? We could go from there to ‘grabbing (women) by their pussies.’ But I’m thinking if the first one doesn’t bother you, then your bar is lower than I can see from here.

Denying women autonomy over their own bodies is pretty important to me.

I don’t know where these odd assertions that Kamala/Biden don’t have actual political pisitions that are appealing (to democratic voters) come from. I may make fun of Trump or Vance for superficial things because I think laughing at pompous men is good for the soul as well as good politics. But I also radically oppose their policies (anti woman, racist, anti worker, pro corporate, low tax, jingoistic, anti immigrant, pro Russian, anti public education, etc…etc..etc…)

Kamala is running on Biden’s record of accomplishments (low inflation, worker’s rights, masterful handling of Covid, infrastructure bill, the two year fight to get the prisoners released, support for Ukraine, basic functioning good governance, low/no corruption, fix the supreme court—these are all vital interests that another Trump win would destroy.

Trump and Vance are running on “Kamala is a fake black person with a loud laugh.” Thst is what not running on policy looks like.

On the question of “Dowry” when used of Vance’s Thiel/Musk money—obviously its not racist at all as it is a term of art referring to money that comes with a marriage—in this case an arranged political marriage —which this very much was.

But even if it were, somehow, a reminder or reference to Vance’s Indian wife how would that be racist? It is not the democratic party and its voters who have a problem with white men marrying non white women.Vance has literally had to defend himself against cries that he is a race traitor from his own racist base but Kamala and her white husband are currently leading the Democratic party and are widely admired by Democrats. To us its not some kind of problem if Vance is married to an Indian woman. Its totally fine.

Because these campaigns are money laundering schemes. Any money raised can be kept by candidate regardless if they win or lose. Also, these articles are a psychological technique to encourage other people to donate money and steer public opinion.

We have pretty strict campaign finance laws.

No, they can't keep it. It can be used in future campaigns or given to the party but it's not their personal cash. Trump has found ways to skate around this... He has the RNC pay his legal bills and he collects money for funds that aren't technically political campaigns.

The money being raised by Kamala will be spent on the campaign, which is an expensive undertaking.

My post was respectful, yours was not. I posted days ago and left the thread shortly after - suggest you keep to the convo a few pages along, together with your pals.
The name is thebaloneywar I think you'll find. They had the phony war in wwII and now we have the baloney war. Such is life.

I don't think you were respectful in your engagement on this thread. You characterised key issues such as migration, the economy and healthcare as 'anodyne' and 'personal'.

Was the second world war a “baloney war? Opinions differ!

LMAO at the MAGA movement people trying to pretend they give a shit about racism on here 🤣

Oh give over. If you’re going to support someone like Trump then you’re going to have to develop a thicker skin. The man is the lowest of the low, and that’s putting it mildly.

Quite.

@DefyingGravitas @twodowntwotogo
Being respectful means not personally attacking others. Being respectful means giving opinions while respecting that other people might disagree and being able to discuss things with out personal attacks.

@twodowntwotogo I didn't characterise key issues such as migration, the economy and healthcare as 'anodyne' and 'personal'. I said that the points you raised in relation to those issues came across as such. It sounded as though you were posting from a crib sheet, hence me asking for sources - as if you had had sources that might have explained your pov a bit better. For example, the Paris agreement - this was a political beast and not much more; scientists generally say that the measures would have almost no impact on the environment and commentators add that the measures around developing economies were wrong thinking. I would be on for a discussion about what the international community could actuall do to stop environmental destruction, but I suspected that you were not. And yes, I do think that what I am saying here is perfectly respectful. I could have gone through each of your points raising different points of view for discussion, but I suspected that unless I said "Go Kamala" I would be greeted with sarcasm and personal attacks. Another poster has listed various things as "facts" which were mostly not facts, they were mostly opinion, a simple google would confirm this. And so on. It felt as though this was simply a Kamala campaign thread and there were a lot of posters on this thread for that purpose alone. And to be honest, the personal attacks are not really my thing.

So, I hope you find my explanation respectful, and it is only left for me to say that I hope you enjoy your campaign thread if it continues.

Out of interest, respectfully, what is it that you like about Trump? Things you think he did well in the past or might do better than Kamala Harris?

@twodowntwotogo I have just skimmed through the thread to make sure my posts were respectful and I saw your later reply to my post, which for some reason I hadn't been notified about. My view hasn't really changed, but I thought I would clarify that I hadn't seen it, but have now seen it. I still find it very subjective, which is not a problem, but there isn't much to reply to.
I saw an awful lot of posters being very personal unnecessarily throughout the thread.

I'm feeling hopeful. Hopefully Trump will continue to implode over the coming months.

I’m not sure there’s anything he could do to put his supporters off. I think of what he’s already said and done in plain sight and that hasn’t done it?

Yes the MAGA movement are beyond reason. But hopefully they aren't a big enough movement for Trump to win the election. I think that was evident when he didn't win the 2020 election.