Trump (Part 7)

[claig]

Even more Trump.

There may be 4 years of this.
Try to keep it lighthearted and not snide, please.
It's Christmas.

Well you could have said that any time, couldn't you?

And you did. So what else are you hoping to have the freedom to say? That you can't already.

Don't you understand that America runs the world and that what happens there affects every single person on the planet?

To start with, "Don't you understand (...)?" - condescending and snide.

But, yes, I do understand that (although American doesn't exactly run the world) America does affect what happens on the planet.
And this is why I'm worried about what will happen under a Trump administration.

Sadly, and genuinely that is my opinion, Trump seems to have given licence (I wouldn't say freedom, more in the sense of validating) to people voicing any opinion without any concrete basis as as valid as conclusions based on data and thorough analyses.

That is a state of mind that allows big money and corporation to convince people of whatever they want. They just need to have a popular front man to voice their agenda. And, in my opinion, now they have that man, in Trump.
And when we look at his proposed administration it's hard not to think that is the case.

As far as I've gathered, you don't think Trump has a great administration either. You said before that he'd have to control them to do what he wants, which would mean they don't share the aims he claimed during his campaign. Assuming he does have the best intentions (say, in relation to draining the swamp, which I think all of us would agree would be a good thing), perhaps he can, but I can only worry.

Would it be goady to ask-again- what specifically "politically correct" means?

'So what else are you hoping to have the freedom to say?'

Long live Trump! Long live common sense!

You had to whisper that you believed in "common sense" when Blair was about in case some bigwig from the EU objected to the wattage on your vacuum cleaner, but now you can proudly say

"I believe in common sense and fiddlesticks to Blair and his gang
He can take his Fee-fi-fo-fums and stick them up his ...
Viva la revolucion Viva la veridad Viva el pueblo
Viva Signor Trump

Feliz Navidad
Merry Christmas everyone

Bert. Merriam-Webster defines it as: conforming to a belief that language and practices which could offend political sensibilities (as in matters of sex or race) should be eliminated

'Would it be goady to ask-again- what specifically "politically correct" means?'

Separate thread, Brussels. Huge topic. Books written about it. I am writing an encyclopaedia on it at the moment.

But the short answer is

"politically correct means Blair and vice versa"

'To start with, "Don't you understand (...)?" - condescending and snide.'

Not at all. Are you English, you didnt answer me before?

"Don't you understand" is an expression of exasperation, that is its intent in that context

claig

Just what is it that makes you believe that - as some matter of inevitability - that everyone is going to say Yes to whatever Trump requests that they do?

The problem with this is there is a major difference between some delinquent twat saying racial slurs to SE Asians and and someone who says something like 'I think MGM needs to be banned unless it's for medical reasons'

It becomes oppression Olympics and a race to the bottom

Are you English, you didnt answer me before?

The relevance is?

I'm really trying to engage in a non-confrontational respectful manner. You're not helping.

That particular "don't you understand" implies I'm stupid. So, condescending and snide.
I'd appreciate it if you did avoid such treatment.

'As far as I've gathered, you don't think Trump has a great administration either. You said before that he'd have to control them to do what he wants'

This is power politics at the top level. As the left winger Michael Moore, supporter of the Establishment and opponent of Trump, reluctantly admitted

"Whether Trump means it or not is kind of irrelevant because he's saying the things to people who are hurting. And it's why every beaten-down nameless forgotten working-stiff who used to be part of what was called the middle-class loves Trump. He is the human Molotov-cocktail that they've been waiting for. They human hand-grenade that they can legally throw into the system that stole their lives from them.

"They see that the elites who ruined their lives hate Trump. Corporate America hates Trump. Wall Street hates Trump. The career politicians hate Trump. The media hates Trump after they loved him and created him and now hate him. Thank you media. The enemy of my enemy is who I'm voting for on November 8th.

"Yes, on November 8th, Joe Blow, Steve Blow, Bob Blow, Billy Blow, Billy-bob Blow, all the Blows get to go and blow up the whole goddamn system because it's your right. Trump's election is going to be the biggest 'f--k you' ever recorded in human history. And it will feel good."

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Trump is on the scale of Julius Caesar, Machiavelli and BlackAdder. Trump has enemeis, there will be people who serve the elites against him, but he will beat them because Trump is the elites' worst nightmare which is why they are all so scared

This is huge, elites are vewy, vewy scared. Did you see the look on the faces of the Oxbridge PPEs on the BBC on election night, did you see their jaws drop, the tears wiped from their eyes, their cracking voices, the look of devastation and fear for the future? All servants of the elites cried and cried a river while the people laughed and laughed

The words sang by julie London so many years ago have never been more true

"come on and cry me a river, cry me a river ...."

'Are you English, you didnt answer me before?

The relevance is?'

Ok that is the answer I thought. That explains everything, thank you. That explains why you don't undertand my humour There is some cultural divide as we were brought up in different countries with different subtle understandings of the English language and humour.

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You had to whisper that you believed in "common sense" when Blair was about in case some bigwig from the EU objected to the wattage on your vacuum cleaner...

That's right you had to whisper it after you read it on the front page of the Daily Mail. Nope. Must be something a bit more outre than that you're dying to spilll.

May I ask what country you are from? That may help me understand some other things too

Lweji's from Latvia like me, Claig. I thought you could tell. Or maybe Lithuania. We're the famous Latvian/Lithuanian communist Blairite PPE feminists you've been reading about in the Mail who have come to impose health and safety regulations on your grandchildren's toys. Your worst nightmare basically.

There is some cultural divide as we were brought up in different countries with different subtle understandings of the English language and humour.

See, condescending.

The only difference here is not of country, or English language or humour.
It's that you allow yourself a type of behaviour that you don't allow others.

"Just what is it that makes you believe that - as some matter of inevitability - that everyone is going to say Yes to whatever Trump requests that they do?"

Cozietoesie, the elites are really scared of Trump, this is no joke, that is why their media across the world attacked and insulted and smeared him day and night and they lied and lied which is why he called them "a room full of liars". World leaders are petrified, they insulted him thinking that he had no chance because they thought the Establishment would beat him and they believed the media and their teams that he stood no chance.

The reason they fear Trumo is because they know he means business. As I said before, Trump is the biggest, baddest, brashest, boldest billionaire on the planet and he will bully the elites and all their puppets like they have never been bullied before. They will say "how high?" when Trump says "jump".

That is power, that is how the world works, that is Machiavelli and Caesar and Rome and the USA

Michael Moore, the left winger who supports the Establishment, reluctantly said

"Trump's election is going to be the biggest 'f--k you' ever recorded in human history. And it will feel good"

And it was said to the Establishment and the elites and they are vewy scared.

'See, condescending'

Not condescending at all. Everyone is a product of their environment, everyone is shaped by where they were brought up and lived and by they experienced.

What country were you brought up in? That may help me understand what has shaped your viewpoint

No, it's ordinary people who are scared. The elites will do well out of Trump. He's taking care of them.

From my knowledge of 'elites' - to use your word - they have a strong instinct of self-preservation. Why should they say Yes to him?

Pretty much impossible to smear Trump. Not a lot you could accuse him of that he hasn't admitted in his own words.

So you are keen on dictatorships, Claig.

It is condescending because you're assuming that I don't respond to your type of, shall we say, humour, because you're assuming I'm not sufficiently versed in the English language as you or that I'm not sufficiently familiar with British humour.

Instead of simply assuming that we are different people with different tastes and personalities.

But, more than that, you're assuming that your style is superior and acceptable.