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Trump (Part 7)

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claig · 21/12/2016 00:37

Even more Trump.

There may be 4 years of this.
Try to keep it lighthearted and not snide, please.
It's Christmas.

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DarthPlagueis · 03/01/2017 16:07

"I don't know them."

Shows how much you know, one was appointed to the cabinet the other week, they have been donors to the Trump foundation. Oh and responsible for his appearances on the WWF.

You know very little.

Lweji · 03/01/2017 16:09

So... Establishment and elites?

Lweji · 03/01/2017 16:09

You have to be realistic, you don't end up as President of the United States against the candidate supported by the entire world's elite and the entire world's media and rigged polling organisations if you don't have some serious support from somewhere.

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claig · 03/01/2017 16:10

Trump told teh world

"America is back"

In his historic speech that I posted above (the one that scared the elites witless), he said "this is our last chance to save our country". The elites have been defeated and they know it. Their teams spun for all they were worth and they lost. The world waits to see how Trump deals with the cheats and the elites and what they did, and the elites are worried.

Trump said in his historic speech (that made the elites' knees knock like a pair of castanets)

"Our system is rigged. They know it, I know and you know it and near enough teh whole world knows it"

Trump will end the rigging, he has "taken America back". The game is up for the elites.

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DarthPlagueis · 03/01/2017 16:11

Which is why he has given jobs to people who have given him money?

It just goes round in circles claig, Trump says something it doesn't mean its true, and his actions don't match his saying.

Under the spreading chestnut tree.

BertrandRussell · 03/01/2017 16:14

"Trump has appointed lots of generals to senior positions and my guess is that if the elites try anything, they will regret it"

What does this mean?

claig · 03/01/2017 16:14

OK, you met Vince McMahon and his wife who has been given a senior position

I linked to when Trump took McMahon down at the WWE and shaved his head

Yes, they are billionaires, but we are talking about America, there are lots of billionaires and the McMahons backed Trump but are not more powerful than Bilderberg. The US is more powerful than anyone and anything and any billionaire. Trump's backers that count are much more powerful than the McMahons.

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BertrandRussell · 03/01/2017 16:16

But you don't know who his backers are?

Ontopofthesunset · 03/01/2017 16:17

Are you suggesting military coup is likely?

DarthPlagueis · 03/01/2017 16:17

I didn't say they were more powerful than Bildeberg, I was pointing out that they were his backers, and have been donors to his foundation since 2008.

So Putin is more powerful than the McMahon's? Well of course!

So if Trump is against the elites how come he has shady powers that are helping him win elections?

Round and round it goes...

Lweji · 03/01/2017 16:18

Trump's backers that count are much more powerful than the McMahons.

Yes, he is.

claig · 03/01/2017 16:19

'Which is why he has given jobs to people who have given him money?'

What is the problem? As Inkanta said, he gives jobs to people he trusts and who backed and supported him, some of whom he has known for decades and some who are recommended to him by people he trusts.

Trump has appinted top business people and billionaires because he said to the Trump fans on the Thank You Tour

"we want to appoint people who know how to make money, right? We don't want to appoint people who know how to go broke"

Trump is not Owen Banter, the 172's favourite, he is a billionaire businessman and he is appointing the best in the business, not Hillary Benn and that lot of clowns.

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claig · 03/01/2017 16:22

'Are you suggesting military coup is likely?'

No, Trump was elected President, but if the elites try anything, I think Trump has appointed lots of top military generals instead of "career politicians"

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Lweji · 03/01/2017 16:23

We don't want to appoint people who know how to go broke

I know I've said this before, but because he already knows how to get broke?
Or, in that case, why doesn't he resign?

BertrandRussell · 03/01/2017 16:24

Claig

  1. Who are Trump's backers?
  2. What does ""Trump has appointed lots of generals to senior positions and my guess is that if the elites try anything, they will regret it" mean?
claig · 03/01/2017 16:24

'I didn't say they were more powerful than Bildeberg, I was pointing out that they were his backers, and have been donors to his foundation since 2008. '

Trump knows billionaires, a few backed him, but they were as nothing to the entire world's elite and media and Silicon Valley and Wall Street who nearly all backed Hillary.

McMahon didn't make any difference

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Lweji · 03/01/2017 16:25

but if the elites try anything, I think Trump has appointed lots of top military generals instead of "career politicians"

OK, so what happens if, say, Rex does not pass?
Or if Congress votes for Impeachment for Trump breaking the law on accepting values from foreign countries?

Lweji · 03/01/2017 16:27

Trump knows billionaires, a few backed him, but they were as nothing to the entire world's elite and media and Silicon Valley and Wall Street who nearly all backed Hillary. McMahon didn't make any difference

So, what did you mean by this:

You have to be realistic, you don't end up as President of the United States against the candidate supported by the entire world's elite and the entire world's media and rigged polling organisations if you don't have some serious support from somewhere.

DarthPlagueis · 03/01/2017 16:28

He's appointed plenty of them too.

The point about giving cabinet jobs to those who have donated is that it is hypocritical. You can't go on about corruption and special interests in others then do the same yourself. It demonstrates that really he was just saying things to get into power.

Trump is only a billionaire because he was the scion of a wealthy family, he took over the family business, nothing he has done himself has worked out.

Trump has appointed people that will protect his and others very specific interests, all the while selling himself as a change candidate, yes a change in favour of more nepotism and crony capitalism.

claig · 03/01/2017 16:29

'So if Trump is against the elites how come he has shady powers that are helping him win elections?'

Putin is nothing comapred to the United States, and Putin doesn't control Trump or America.

Trump has taken America back, he says "we will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism" and the elites went into uncontrollable spasms when they heard that

Trump's backers, (in my conjecture) are some powerful military, FBI, police etc elements.

The FBI lower levels were reported to be for Trump, most police at lower levels were for Trump and a lot of ex-generals and military were for Trump too and most of the serving military voted for Trump too

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claig · 03/01/2017 16:32

"but if the elites try anything, I think Trump has appointed lots of top military generals instead of "career politicians"

OK, so what happens if, say, Rex does not pass?"

I am not talking about "career politicians" not voting for anyone. If Rex Tillerson doesn't go through, then Trump will find someone else. America is not short of talented people.

My guess is the opposition won't try to impeach Trump due to power politics etc. Trump will be in charge and will have power. I don't think anyone will be able to undermine him.

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DarthPlagueis · 03/01/2017 16:32

Putin certainly influenced the election though.

Trump begged the Russians to hack the emails etc.

Trump isn't as wealthy as many Russians, he could be bought.

If Trump's backers are the FBI, police, army etc they will have been in breach their contacts, and the constitution.

BertrandRussell · 03/01/2017 16:33

Sorry? So he was backed by crowdfunding amongst the military? Hmm

Lweji · 03/01/2017 16:34

Trump's backers, (in my conjecture) are some powerful military, FBI, police etc elements.

That does not tally with "serious support" that could defeat all the elite billionaires.

Let's face it. Trump won mostly due to Hillary's and DNC's email hacking, fake news and Comey's statement in the last week before the election.
Now, who was responsible?

DarthPlagueis · 03/01/2017 16:34

Oh and BTW, didn't he say he knew more than the countries generals during the election?

Why should he need them if he is so knowledgeable?

See again, just saying anything.

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