Trump (Part 7)

[claig]

Even more Trump.

There may be 4 years of this.
Try to keep it lighthearted and not snide, please.
It's Christmas.

The fact that DT has managed to get ordinary guys to vote for him is the real "revolution" here. Trump has always shafted the ordinary person, whether it be by not paying up contracts or stiffing cities with deals, or by many other means.

So far the examples have been people being no platformed who weren't and somebody who isn't a climate change expert not being called upon to speak as a climate change expert...

'Priviliged, connected, able to use personal connections to his advantage, he's donated to parties of all sides because its suited him, he is the establishment.'

I am a proud Trump fan and am proud to say that I watched a lot of teh great man's speeches and learned a lot from his utterances in front of the adoring Trump fans in venues that were packed to the rafters and which Blir could only fill with a couple of lobbyists and some eager graduates on the make. In some of those speeches he said

"I used to be Establishment when I wrote oout cheques to the senators that the Republican Establishment asked me too and they loved me then, but as soon as I said I was standing, they all turned against me".

The reason is that they don't control him, he is not one of their puppets. They are terrified of what he will do to them

'I also doubt anyone would vote for a Trump child.'

Well you probably also doubted that Trump would beat Hillary, so I don't think I wil hazard any money on what you think might happen. You were a Remainer too, weren't you?

There has been a revolution, a people' revolution

Trump has always shafted the ordinary person,

Yes, and he has settled the "University" case by 25 million of the 40 the plaintiffs were asking.
There was still time, before he is inaugurated, to win the case, but he knew he'd lose. He just didn't want to admit it before the election.

He's in good company, though.
His friend Benjamin is being investigated for corruption.

'No. Still not getting the politically correct thing.'

Then read what Bernie Sanders said about Trump winning because he was not politically correct. Bernie is a socialist so you may understand it from him better, unless you are a New Statesman subscriber in which case don't bother trying to understand it, there is no hope.

"Trump has always shafted the ordinary person, whether it be by not paying up contracts or stiffing cities with deals, or by many other means."

Trump shafted people in business. Now he intends to shaft politicians and bully the elites. What's not to like about that? Their game is up, have you read Oxford PPE, Jonathan Freedland, in the Guardian, the man is losing the plot over Trump and the people's revolution?

Ah so he's establishment till he decides that its not politically expedient to admit to it, then he says he's against it? That's not the way it works.

He is establishment, I was under no illusions about brexit or Trump, I thought both had a good chance of winning because they gave simple answers and confirmed people's prejudices.

That's what the revolution has been, you don't actually need to have any substance, you just have to appeal to emotion.

The politically correct thing, we all know really, appeals to people who feel that their own views aren't being heard, the problem is that when its not their views aren't being heard, but that they have no factual basis but are based on prejudice then they aren't being acted on.

It isnt a revolution, and more people voted for Hillary so it isn't of the people either.

The revolution has been people like you and your nonsense spouting.

Are you Milo Y?

You mean that he shafted people as a businessman?
Or that he shafted business people?

Either way, but particularly the first, is not really being "for the people", is it?

'That's what the revolution has been, you don't actually need to have any substance, you just have to appeal to emotion.'

You need substance to appeal to emotion, you have to be real and genuine because the people are not stupid. Blair tried to appeal to emotions with his spin-drenched teenage-whizzkid crafted speeches, but everyone knew it was spin apart from the senior Blairites at Progress who fell for the whizzkid-scripted spin. Cameron was filmed with huskies and talked of hugging hoodies, but someone with a hoody flicked a V sign behind his back, how was that reaching the hoodie's emotions?

No amount of photos of polar bears sitting atop icecaps could touch the people's emotions for that Eton spin scripted spiel.

Trump is real, he packs out theatres, people like him, he reaches people's emotions because he has empathy, unlike Blair and Cameron who can't reach people's emotions (unless they are negative) however many hand gestures they are trained to do and however many biscuits and sweets they are thrown as a reward by a tennage whizzkid hand gesture guru.

you have to be real and genuine because the people are not stupid. Blair tried to appeal to emotions with his spin-drenched teenage-whizzkid crafted speeches, but everyone knew it was spin apart from the senior Blairites at Progress who fell for the whizzkid-scripted spin.

Erm...
didn't you fall for Blair?

That is why Trump managed to win this time. No substance, but people went for the wishful thinking that he'd be great and so different from his business persona.
Why? I don't know. All I know is that I didn't fall for it. Remember this in 4 years.

As they say, you can fool everyone for a short time, or someone all the time, but not everyone all the time.

'Erm...
didn't you fall for Blair?'

That was a long time ago. I was younger, knew less than I know now. Fell for the spin, wasn't wise to the elite and their game, didn't know about the Oxbridge teams in those days, thought it was all above board.

But he still didn't win the popuular vote did he?

You don't need substance to appeal to emotions, you just need to say what you think is necessary at the time.

What is Trump actually doing that he said? Hillary will be locked up? Nope, not going to happen. Wall? Nope, not going to happen. Scrap O care? Not going to happen.

Trump is going to have a big problem, because its very easy to be the arch opposer, to say contrary things that have no substance and need to be implemented.

He will do nothing except that which is to the advantage of his own elite establishment types.

You keep critiquing Blair, yet Blair won 3 elections, Blair won a landslide (something Trump has failed to do), Blair earned his own position and didn't need Daddies money to get there.

Trump is the fraud, the failure.

Claig, you still don't "know" anything. You've just fallen for the most current spin, again.

'But he still didn't win the popuular vote did he?'

Without California, he would have won the popular vote, but he never tried to win the popular vote. If he had wanted to, he could have. But the elite and their media were desperately trying to portray Trump as a racist which is why he lost the popular vote

'Claig, you still don't "know" anything'

I guess that is why I predicted that UKIP would win the Euro elections, win Clacton in a landslide, win Rochester when Cameron and the Etonians through the kitchen sink at the people there, that Corbyn would beat the Oxbridge candidates the first time round and would beat the 172's candidate, Owen Banter, the second time round, that Brexit would win, that Trump would win and that Cameron's "Assad must go" policy would end in tears.

'You keep critiquing Blair, yet Blair won 3 elections, Blair won a landslide (something Trump has failed to do), Blair earned his own position and didn't need Daddies money to get there. '

Do me a favour. Blair is a total joke and Murdoch helped him.

Meanwhile back on planet Earth:

www.trumpdaily.com/trump-family/eric-trump-foundation-caught-funneling-cancer-research-cash-directly-to-his-father/

While more grubby little criminals emerge from UKIP:

evolvepolitics.com/nigel-farages-senior-ukip-aide-will-soon-be-a-convicted-criminal-immigrant/

So Trump wasn't allied by Murdoch?

Blair won a landslide victory, something Trump hasn't done. Obama won the popular vote and the more electoral seats, twice.

Now you go back on what "the people" are. Without California? Oh ok so its fine to ditch the most populous state? But only because they didn't vote the way you wanted them to, its inconvenient but its true.

Trump is a racist btw, he's on record as saying those things, he said them in public, in fact this is your political correctness, its what people want to say, you dare not make those statements here for want of being banned ( and then what would you do all day?), but its true. The political correctness is you lower common denominator politics.

Oh btw, Take back control, Make America great again, is the language of losers, led by a loser.

you just need to say what you think is necessary at the time.

Nope, that's not how it happened. Life stopped making sense under Blair, Cameron, Hillary, Obama. People went off to find out why. Trump came later, having correctly worked out the solutions to this.

'So Trump wasn't allied by Murdoch? '

Not at all, which is why Trump boycotted one Fox debate and hit Murdoch with some tweets and Murdoch hit back saying

"Time to calm down. If I running anti-Trump conspiracy then doing lousy job"

'Blair won a landslide victory, something Trump hasn't done. '

Only because the Tories had been in for 18 years and people were sick to the back teeth of the faces.

'Oh btw, Take back control, Make America great again, is the language of losers, led by a loser.'

OK, better tell Clinton that, as there were rumours she had to be sedated on election night as she was blowing her top after she lost.

Trump is already winding back on what he said he was going to do.

There will be some very disappointed people out there. I fear for Claig's mental health.

And the loser lipstics libs and SJW's. Don't forget them