Trump (Part 7)

[claig]

Even more Trump.

There may be 4 years of this.
Try to keep it lighthearted and not snide, please.
It's Christmas.

A person who only has any profile at all because he is Jeremy corbyn's brother?

Corbyn's brother's company WeatherAction have also been shown to be wrong about lots of its own predictions, and he isnt a PHD or has any qualifications in climate science or environmental sciences, but an MSC in astro physics.

If you think POTUS will run his office from Trump tower you are sadly mistaken too.

You're a fantasist.

But Ed Milliband wasn't invited on to discussion programmes because of his specific expertise on climate change; it was because he was the leader of the Labour Party. So the two individuals aren't remotely comparable.

I don't spend my time following what Piers Corbyn is up to but a quick google show he was on the BBC's The Big Questions in March. So, no, not silenced it seems.

Not only will it be game over for the luvvies, it will be game over for the people of the Maldives, the Seychelles, the Solomon Islands and other low-lying islands. Where do you think they're going to live? Mmm, maybe a little immigration problem coming our way. Mind you, your boy will be out by then.

'So an example of political correctness is a specific climate change denier not being asked to appear on Newsnight?'

Absolutely. It is not "correct" "politically" towards Big Brother and the elites to say "I am not a number. I am a climate change sceptic" because that drives a coach and horses through the agenda that Sillyband and the teams have been advised to follow. That is just one example, there are thousands of policies that are the same.

It is for that reason, the nonsense, the spin, the lies and the "nudging" that the teams think is so clever, that 20% of Tory voters finally had it with Cameron and his merry band of public school modernisers and switched to a non-politically correct party (i.e. common sense spin-free no nudging unit party) that started off the entire people's revolutions.

If it was really about "globalisation" as Peston and the Establishment journalists all think, then people would be voting for Corbyn, but it is much more fundamental than just globalisation. It is ultimately about freedom and common sense, something the elites don't want the common people to exercise as it would stifle their plans for the people.

Trump said "I refuse to be politically correct", not because he wants to be racist as the BBC would have you believe but because he, like us, the people's revolution, have had enough of the "very, very stupid people" who lead us, and that is why Trump won because he gave hope to ordinary people that they would finally see the end of the idiots who had ruined their lives.

As Michael Moore said

"They see that the elites who ruined their lives hate Trump. Corporate America hates Trump. Wall Street hates Trump. The career politicians hate Trump. The media hates Trump after they loved him and created him and now hate him. Thank you media. The enemy of my enemy is who I'm voting for on November 8th.

"Yes, on November 8th, Joe Blow, Steve Blow, Bob Blow, Billy Blow, Billy-bob Blow, all the Blows get to go and blow up the whole goddamn system because it's your right. Trump's election is going to be the biggest 'f--k you' ever recorded in human history. And it will feel good."

Trump ultimately won because he was the people's Rocky, who had the courage to fight and defeat the elite and their political correctness control mechanism in order to restore liberty and common sense for the common people and not the nerds, geeks and wonks like Sillyband and his "intellectuals yet idiots", the SPADs, and the lawyers, barristers and PPEs who rule us.

Trump was the bare knucke brawler who was David to the elite's Goliath as all the elites puppets across teh planet called him "unfit" and called teh people Deplorables.

"Trump stands today as the greatest disrupter in modern politics, the winner of the biggest upset imaginable, but for most of the campaign, he was not even the best argument for his own candidacy. That distinction belonged to the millions upon millions of everyday Americans who found in him the bare-knuckled brawler they were desperately seeking."

So why do you want Corbyn in particular to have a higher profile? Surely the message will be massively diluted- even derailed- by his relationship to Jeremy C? There are plenty of other, better qualified deniers who appear regularly

If the elites had paid attention instead of using their customary whizzkid-generated spin, they would have seen the brawler that Trump was and may have evaded his drop holds or whatever they are called

'So why do you want Corbyn in particular to have a higher profile?'

Because i like Corbyn's brother. Corbyn is a socialist politician, it is not "politically correct" for a socialist politician to be a climate change denier, but Piers Corbyn is also a real socialist, not one of teh 172's or Blair's supporters, and he knows teh truth and has the courage to say so.

Who knows what Corbyn really believes? What he says to the BBC may not in the end be what he really does, but you cannot expect a socialist politician to openly challenge political correctness, which is ultimately why they cannot win for a very long time indeed. The people want the truth, they are sick of being spun by elite nerds, wonks and geeks

Piers says that around the Christmas table he discusses climate change with Jeremy and his family etc. The Corbyns aren't stupid, some of his sons are Oxbridge, maybe they all get it like Piers does. We won't know until Corbyn wns if he ever does.

And you can't think of any reason but political correctness why Piers Corbyn doesn't have a higher profile?

Bernie Sanders is a socialist and he understands what happened

"Bernie Sanders: Trump Won Because People Are ‘Tired’ of ‘Politically Correct Rhetoric’

www.mediaite.com/tv/bernie-sanders-trump-won-because-people-are-tired-of-politically-correct-rhetoric/

But Bernie, being a socialist, probably doesn't have the courage to challenge "political correctness" because that is challenging the elite's plan. Only Trump and to a lesser degree Farage had the necessary courage to stand up for the people against the geeks from public schools, Eton and Oxbridge who spin and con the people.

you don't actually refute that Trump is establishment.

He's elite but not Establishment. He's wealthy and connected but is not interested in the same things as the Establishment. Michael Moore writes about this. You'd be elite too if you decided to go for it and stand for office. You'd automatically become one of the elite because all societies' decision makers are 'the elite' in the sense that academics use this term (you get certain privileges for making important decisions) - but you may or may not become part of the Establishment.

You know what, claig, neither the BBC nor any other organisation has a duty to keep giving a platform to people you personally like, and the fact that they choose not to is no evidence whatsoever of political correctness on their part. Nor does it demonstrate that political correctness is stifling their ability to express their views, or indeed your ability to reiterate them. If you think the election of Trump is going to make one iota of difference to the guest lists on TV programmes on climate change in the UK or the US, you really are doomed to grievous disappointment.

That is a good summary of it, fourmummy.

Depending on what we mean by "elite", Trump is definitely elite in the sense that he is not like ordinary people in terms of wealth and privilege and access and influence, but he was the antithesis of the existing elites that the people voted against (i.e the ruling elites or Establishment).

'If you think the election of Trump is going to make one iota of difference to the guest lists on TV programmes on climate change in the UK or the US, you really are doomed to grievous disappointment.'

Oh, I think it will. We have got probably 8 years of Trump, followed possibly by one of his children. The entire world agenda will change during that time and therefore even the BBC and the Oxbridge teams will have to change with the times. Sure, they will continue to snipe at Trump, but even our political class will have to change to adapt to Trump and all of Europe will change soon too, so we will see different guests- Sillyband and Blair and some of the old faces may still pop up from time to time to haunt us, but they are now history.

If Trump pulls out of the Paris COP, everything will change and you will suddenly see more climate change deniers invited onto TV as the Oxbridge teams adapt to the new reality.

Just looked at Piers Corbyn's twitter. Warning it is not "politically correct". He is a socialist but a rare one, he is not "politically correct". If they had more like him, or if his brother was more like him, then they could win once again.

"CORBYN FOR TRUMP Jeremy Corbyn’s brother Piers comes out for Donald Trump with attacks on Hillary Clinton

This is not the first time the wacky climate scientist has been a source of embarrassment for the Labour leader

JEREMY Corbyn’s brother Piers has heaped embarrassment on the Labour leader by coming out in support of Donald Trump’s controversial presidential bid.

Last night the wacky climate scientist indicated his support for the Republican candidate with multiple tweets and a stream of messages expressing his contempt for Hilary Clinton."

www.thesun.co.uk/news/2046209/jeremy-corbyns-brother-piers-comes-out-for-donald-trump-with-attacks-on-hillary-clinton/

He won't do as he is told. He tells the elites where to stick it

Go Corbyn!

Piers Corbyn twitter is a vehicle to sell his weather predictions con site.

So you want him as. Trump supporter rather than as a climate change expert?

We have got probably 8 years of Trump, followed possibly by one of his children

Now you are just being silly

'So you want him as. Trump supporter rather than as a climate change expert?'

I want him to be what he is - the bane of the elites and their teams.

He doesn't believe in manmade climate change, so he clearly demonstrates common sense, and therefore naturally he will support Trump.

His brother, unfortunately, despite having good qualities, lacks common sense and therefore believes in what the elite say they believe (but don't really, of course) and didn't back Trump.

'We have got probably 8 years of Trump, followed possibly by one of his children'

I don't thinks so. I think Trump is going to be an amazing success and very popular which will anger thw elites and the BBC, but there will be nothing they can do about it, so he will get 8 years.

His son, Donald Trump Jr, is absolutely brilliant, with the same fire and passion and populist common sense. I think he will be the next President after The Donald.

But Ivanka is also a possibility as I think Trump will give her a big role to play. But she is "politically correct" and that is her weakness, however after 8 years of Trump euphoria, she could still win and beat the Democrats since they are even more politically correct.

I doubt we'll see 8 years of Trump, he'll be 74 in 4 years time.

Also you can keep denying that he is the establishment all you like, but he is the very sine qua non of the establishment.

Priviliged, connected, able to use personal connections to his advantage, he's donated to parties of all sides because its suited him, he is the establishment.

Yes the vote he got was because of anger amongst some people who have been made worse off by nearly 40 years of free market economics, but he won't be doing anything for them. It was just an easy way to get elected.

The fact that you don't see this is amusing, and it makes you the brainwashed one.

OH btw, the difference between people talking about climate change with the sceintific facts and Trump is that one is a fact, the other is opinion, you don't seem to know the difference.

I also doubt anyone would vote for a Trump child.

No. Still not getting the politically correct thing.