Trump vs Clinton - the final 3 days

[claig]

Into the final lap now after over 1 year of entertainment, education and excitement. Donald J Trump is nearly there against all expectations.

Absolutely, then posters won't call others fascists and stupid for having opposing views

Jill Stein tweet. It's almost like something Trump would say.

Dr. Jill Stein ‏@DrJillStein 13h13 hours ago

If Saudi Arabia funded 9/11 and ISIS too, why does Obama protect them, Clinton arm them, & Podesta lobby for them?

I don't know the answer, but a charidee is usually in every picture

claig, was it my posts that you wanted to hide?

Was that because I asked you challenging questions that you couldn't answer, like why anyone sane would vote for a fascist? Because I asked you to give me a single POSITIVE reason to vote for Trump and you couldn't?

Yes, definitely better hide my posts then. Saves you having to reveal you can't come up with a single positive reason for supporting the fascist, racist, misogynist lying, incompetent that is Trump.

Oh but look! There's a squirrel! And it sent some emails using the wrong server!

And no, I'm not going to go easy on fascists or sympathisers. I find it horrifying that in the world's leading superpower (still, just), a fascist could be within spitting distance of the presidency.

If Trump gets in, I will hold all those who voted for him, turning a deliberate blind eye to his corruption, racism, misogyny, violence etc, in exactly the same way I view those Germans who voted for Hitler.

I lost many members of my family to fascism last time. I'm not going to stand by and give fascism a free pass in 2016.

And to those who do, shame on you.

"then posters won't call others fascists and stupid for having opposing views"

But what else can I do, when some posters are either stupid or fascists? Am I supposed to be polite to fascists? No can do, sorry.

There is nothing rational about support for Trump, and no point in arguing rationally with people who refuse to or are unable to engage with the facts.

I suppose it's rational to vote for Trump if you are a fascist.

'claig, was it my posts that you wanted to hide?'

No, I was replying to lljjk who wanted to hide my posts.

I am not keen on your posts about fascists and racists, but I don't want to hide them.

Some interesting articles on Trump.

claig - if you're capable of rational debate, feel free to read and respond.

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/andrew-sullivan-trump-america-and-the-abyss.html

medium.com/@theonlytoby/history-tells-us-what-will-happen-next-with-brexit-trump-a3fefd154714#.s1m56laww

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/america-tyranny-donald-trump.html

Can you summarise the key points because when I see articles about "abyss", "tyranny" etc I think it must be Guardian articles by elitists desperate to stop democracy.

If Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Senator Jeff Sessions, Governor Jan Brewer, Governor Mike Huckabee, Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, General Michael Flynn, former head of the Defence Intelligence Agency and Lord Richards ex-head of the British Army all support Trump, then I think that talk of "abysss" is just Guardian eltism.

But if you summarise it, I will show why it is wrong.

People are just voting for Trump because they want the trains to run on time.

OK, you're right, claig - I concede Donald's greatness!

It was Sarah Palin supporting him that did it for me!

But I thought that the GOP (Grab Our Pussy) had on her?

'OK, you're right, claig - I concede Donald's greatness! '

Glad you got there in the end. What took you so long?

I like Sarah, she is great.

We all watched Sarah's endorsement of Trump live on MN in a classic thread.

Here is the SNL skit of it which pales in comparison to the real thing

Breaking

"FBI review of new emails yields no evidence in Clinton case

...
We reviewed all of the communications that were to or from Hillary Clinton while she was Secretary of State," FBI Director James Comey told members of Congress. "Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July with respect to Secretary Clinton."

bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id5407

If Comey had to issue a statement right before the election, why couldn't he wait a few days, until his agents had read all EMs, which they have today:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/06/fbi-director-hillary-clinton-email-investigation-criminal-james-comey

He coukdn't possibly - as a GOP and Trump supporter - be trying to stop Clinton being elected
Now of course, many Trumpers will think this is another coverup, that the FBI has been got at. Again.

So Comey has further ramped up suspicion & partisanship, in an already bitterly divided country

It is not good. But I am not sure he really is a GOP supporter. However, this has harmed Clinton because this announcement comes very late in the day.

Comey is a registered Republican but what I mean is that I am not sure that would affect his independence over this.

Quite - she's gone from being ten points ahead to it being a very close-run thing. And will all the voters even see the new headline before voting? What about the voters who voted early based on misinformation...by the FBI??

What a fucking mess.

'And will all the voters even see the new headline before voting? '

Early voting closes today. In some states you can change your early vote. But it has had a detrimental effect on her vote.

Quite.

Well - Trump was right on one thing. The election is certainly rigged.

He just forgot to mention it was being rigged in his favour...by the FBI, no less.

I like Sarah, she is great

Now I know you are taking the piss claig. I don't believe that for one minute. That negates everything else you have said if that is true. This is an ignorant woman who is anti abortion, anti sex education, anti feminist, you name it.

I'm not sure I'm interested in your views now claig TBH because that takes the biscuit

I don't know all her views, I don't know enough about her. What I like about her is that she is anti political correctness and pro free speech. That is what I consider to be one of the most important issues - liberty and free speech and that is what Sarah Palin stands for, as do most real conservatives.

Good god. Do you know anything about her? Free speech means nothing if you are spouting rubbish - she has very very questionable ethics.

Have you actually listened to her speak and more importantly what she is saying? Not many people understand her as she is clueless. She is however pro abstinence and anti abortion. Then her teen daughter got pregnant, poor kid. Oh, and she likes to call gays "faggots". Yeah claig liberty and free speech and all that...

'Oh, and she likes to call gays "faggots".'

I don't know, I don't know enough about her. I don't agree with that and haven't heard her saying that. I don't mind if people spout rubbish, that is all part of a free society. I am a libertarian.