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Thatcher, the worst Prime Minister Britain ever had.

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ivanhoe · 10/12/2010 19:16

Thatcher wrecked British manufacturing industry and devastated whole areas of Britain by her obsession with high interest rates.

Under her rule crime rates soared. The Health Service was wrecked. Before she came to power it was the best in the world. After 11 years of her rule it was the worst in the developed world.

Britain's mental hospitals were closed and their inhabitants dumped on to the streets of our cities to be a menace both to themselves and to the general public.

All forms of physical punishment were banned in schools, thus wrecking the education system for ordinary people.

Thatcher crucified the Health Service and was responsible for a number of equally wretchedly mean actions, such as abolishing the Wages Councils and making various cuts in welfare benefits. And breaking the State pensions link with national average wages

Margaret Thatcher also ruined the Social structure of this country by stopping the building of Social housing during her Premiership.

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LowLevelBahHumbug · 10/12/2010 23:47

how odd

alicatte · 11/12/2010 15:54

I think there have been a lot of unfortunate Prime Ministers. I don't think Mrs Thatcher was particularly exceptional.

Moreover she lived through very difficult times - a form of industrial revolution with the coming of the information/communication age and the rise of the emerging markets as a result of this. It would have been difficult to do a very good job - even if she had attempted to manage the change centrally she would inevitably have got it wrong because everything was moving so fast.

I can see what you are saying - history is already being written which largely agrees with your analysis BUT what else could she or anyone have done? Be fair.

StealthPolarBear · 11/12/2010 16:00

"Britain's mental hospitals were closed and their inhabitants dumped on to the streets of our cities to be a menace both to themselves and to the general public. "
yes, I am menaced by previous mental hospital inhabitants every day Hmm

StealthPolarBear · 11/12/2010 16:01

are you GabbyLoggon?

Rindercella · 11/12/2010 16:03

"All forms of physical punishment were banned in schools, thus wrecking the education system for ordinary people." Err, righty-o Xmas Hmm

"Britain's mental hospitals were closed and their inhabitants dumped on to the streets of our cities to be a menace both to themselves and to the general public." Erm, righty-o again Xmas Hmm

Not saying that Thatcher and her policies were fabulous, but your two points above sit very oddly with the rest of your statements.

begonyabampot · 13/12/2010 00:40

'She made Great Britain Great'?

She was vindictive and happy to punish and leave whole areas to rot as they never voted for her. Some parts of the Uk don't have a clue what she did to certain areas and have 'I'm all right Jack attitude'. That is what she'll be remembered for from where I come from. If you came from an area which didn't suffer in the same way under Thatcher, obviously you'll have a 'rosier' view/memory of her.

mozette · 13/12/2010 12:19

Well she did do one thing right - she turned practically the whole of Scotland against the Tories by destroying any heavy industry we had and testing out the Poll Tax in Scotland a year before everyone else.

Roll on her funeral cos Scotland will be party central!

ivanhoe · 13/12/2010 12:24

//////'She made Great Britain Great'?

She was vindictive and happy to punish and leave whole areas to rot as they never voted for her. Some parts of the Uk don't have a clue what she did to certain areas and have 'I'm all right Jack attitude'. That is what she'll be remembered for from where I come from. If you came from an area which didn't suffer in the same way under Thatcher, obviously you'll have a 'rosier' view/memory of her.///////

A first rate posting. A first rate observation.

When people are forced to post such as the above, it goes to prove that the British are largely a very politically docile race.

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PelvicFloorTrauma · 13/12/2010 12:25

Gordon Brown was the worst prime minister we have ever had.

smallwhitecat · 13/12/2010 12:28

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ivanhoe · 13/12/2010 14:56

/////Gordon Brown was the worst prime minister we have ever had//////

Blair and Brown threw it all away in favour of continued Thatcherism.

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ivanhoe · 13/12/2010 19:11

///////Scotland is welcome to its socialist paradise. Roll on independence, say I. I can;t afford Scotland anymore and I know a lot of English peole feel the same way.
the thread title is silly, just as a thread saying she was the best PM we've ever had would be. She got some things right, some wrong (her policy on care in the community being chief among those IMHO).on balance, i think she got more right than wrong and made some decisions that other, more cowardly governments had dodged until they really couldn't be dodged anymore. And it simply isn't true she did nothing about areas hit by high unemployment; I grew up in merseyside and well remember all the initiatives. The unfortunate truth is that the industrial north and midlands became largely moribund, as the rural economy it replaced did before it. There's a limited amount any govnerment can do in tha face of those kinds of forces - save try and create as much sa possible the conditions for enterprise to thrive - you know, by cutting taxes and all the other stuff lefties castigate her for........

How thoroughly ignorant you are.

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FellatioNelson · 14/12/2010 10:48

agree with smallwhitecat.

ivanhoe · 14/12/2010 11:58

/////agree with smallwhitecat.//////

Naturally.

It is easier to agree in general, than to "think" for oneself.

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FellatioNelson · 14/12/2010 12:20

I don't do thinking. It's over-rated.

Teela · 14/12/2010 12:24

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ivanhoe · 14/12/2010 13:14

/////I don't do thinking. It's over-rated./////

Many a true wordsaid in jest.

But however your way is the British at large unfortunately.

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ivanhoe · 14/12/2010 13:16

//////Ivanhoe please could you use quotation marks rather than a fraction slash.

It seems so aggresive when one has to read it.///////

Maybe this is because I am aggressive. "lol".

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FellatioNelson · 14/12/2010 13:47

Would you like to 'lol' some more Ivanhoe? It's so jolly.

Tell me more about Thatcher please. I'd love to learn all about politics and economics from you, as I can't think for myself. Get if from a a book - I don't think you are old enough to remember it for real are you?

ivanhoe · 14/12/2010 14:00

/////Tell me more about Thatcher please////

Go ask Ma and Pa.

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smallwhitecat · 14/12/2010 14:06

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FellatioNelson · 14/12/2010 14:14

I am Ma and Pa, Ivanhoe. I susect you are not. How old are you?

FellatioNelson · 14/12/2010 14:19

Oops, sorry Ivanhoe - forgot your previous rants about pensioners. I take it back. You are actually quite old. Probably older than me. It's just you write like an ill-informed sixth former.

ivanhoe · 14/12/2010 16:24

/////Oops, sorry Ivanhoe - forgot your previous rants about pensioners. I take it back. You are actually quite old. Probably older than me. It's just you write like an ill-informed sixth former./////

And you write arrogantly. Clearly you have no respect for the older person, and ultimately you have no respect for yourself.

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reratio · 14/12/2010 16:34

ivanhoe- do you not remember the 1970s when the unions were criplling the country, they had to be taken on and Thatcher did it. Many of her policies such as the poll tax were poorly thought through but overall she was a good prime minsiter I think